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  • #14,481
  • Jul 12, 2012 3:03am Jul 12, 2012 3:03am
Quoting johntan
RJ, so the exit point would be either BE or TP, right?
without considering those 4 lights, arrow, candle?
I have said repeatedly that I do NOT exit according to anything other than s/r pivots, previous highs/lows etc etc. Indicators do not play any part in my exit
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #14,482
  • Jul 12, 2012 3:06am Jul 12, 2012 3:06am
Quoting realjumper
I have said repeatedly that I do NOT exit according to anything other than s/r pivots, previous highs/lows etc etc. Indicators do not play any part in my exit
clear. thanks. no more question.
patient....
  • #14,483
  • Jul 12, 2012 3:13am Jul 12, 2012 3:13am
3hours+ to go for unemployment claim.
trade with cautious or out.
patient....
  • #14,484
  • Jul 12, 2012 3:16am Jul 12, 2012 3:16am
Wow, nice bullish rally. Is anyone taking L right now? as for now it bounced off 60ma
  • #14,485
  • Jul 12, 2012 3:21am Jul 12, 2012 3:21am
a long trade signal on EU, but i didnt take it & uncomfortable with it.
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patient....
  • #14,486
  • Jul 12, 2012 3:27am Jul 12, 2012 3:27am
Quoting brimex
Wow, nice bullish rally. Is anyone taking L right now? as for now it bounced off 60ma

>Please remember what I said in post #14474 about support and resistance level breaks....

Quoting evaluator
''once there is a breakout price action will normally reverse and touch the support line before heading down.''
Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,487
  • Jul 12, 2012 4:24am Jul 12, 2012 4:24am
12.07.2012 - 11.24am Europe time.

EURUSD is still bouncing back and forth from broken support line of 1.22222 and the 90 day low at 1.22119....only about 10 pip range.....

A break and close below 1.22119 on the hourly will point to further declines... Only a break above 1.22500 will invalidate the support line break and point to a reversal in direktion as a valid possibility.

So, for now the Bulls and Bears are in a major battle for control of today's markt.

Evalautor.:nerd:
  • #14,488
  • Jul 12, 2012 4:38am Jul 12, 2012 4:38am
Quoting Evaluator
12.07.2012 - 11.24am Europe time.

EURUSD is still bouncing back and forth from broken support line of 1.22222 and the 90 day low at 1.22119....only about 10 pip range.....
Which symph timeframe will you be taking your entry from out of this current range?
  • #14,489
  • Edited 7:20am Jul 12, 2012 4:45am | Edited 7:20am
Quoting sidefx
Which symph timeframe will you be taking your entry from out of this current range?

I make no further orders as price action breaks below 1.22200 because 5th wave completion minimals have been achieved....after price action reach 1.21500 I begin to look for reverals.

I follow and trade the Symphonie 60-5 method that one can find in post#1.


Evalautor.:nerd:
  • #14,490
  • Jul 12, 2012 4:55am Jul 12, 2012 4:55am
Quoting Evaluator
I make no further orders as price action breaks below 1.22200 because 5th wave completion minimals have been achieved....after price action reach 1.21500 I begin to look for reverals.


Evalautor.:nerd:
Thanks. Your EW counts appear to be one of the major keys to your success with symph.
  • #14,491
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:01am Jul 12, 2012 5:01am
Quoting sidefx
Thanks. Your EW counts appear to be one of the major keys to your success with symph.

Elliott waves are very useful to me in identify the end point but Symphonie tells me the turn every time!

Using Pattern recognition and Symphonie is as close to a ''holy Grail'' as it gets for me.



I use Elliott like a regional map...it tell me the different Country...Pattern Recognition is the States or Regions of a Country and Symphonie is the Street Address I am searching to find.... The perfekt condition for direktion change.



Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,492
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:05am Jul 12, 2012 5:05am
Quoting sidefx
Thanks. Your EW counts appear to be one of the major keys to your success with symph.
WelL all I can say to that is this thread has gone way off course as far as I can see.

I think Eval was making far more pips before when he was just using symphonie instead of waiting and waiting for the right thing all the time with a wave count of this and that, many times completely wrong. Its not symphonie anymore and thats why I haven't been posting much at all, and it doesn't like its about to change all too soon.
  • #14,493
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:16am Jul 12, 2012 5:16am
Quoting ohammond
WelL all I can say to that is this thread has gone way off course as far as I can see.

I think Eval was making far more pips before when he was just using symphonie instead of waiting and waiting for the right thing all the time with a wave count of this and that, many times completely wrong. Its not symphonie anymore and thats why I haven't been posting much at all, and it doesn't like its about to change all too soon.

Olivia,

I have always trade the Symphonie Method...I have never stopped trading from this method.... Rest assured all my orders are firmly based on Symphonie Signals....

I freely admit since the first of this thread....(go back and read) and you will see I have always referenced Elliott waves and trendlines with my Symphonie Signals.

But I only enter a trade on the basis of a Symphonie Signal.....but you must admit that the markt has become more complex than 2011 and has been very difficult to trade at times....

I post things about trendlines, support and resistance, and different patterns because they are important to forex trading... The use of Elliott and Fibonacci levels is no different that you use of Daily pivots and Take Profit levels.

Yes one can make good pips based solely on Symphonie Signals and Symphonie is a great tactical trading tool for small timeframes as you an others have demonstrated but I have always trade the ways I trade and you will find in this thread my posts have always been about the same and discussing the same topics.

For example..

post #808 I talk about a wedge pattern. (i.e. pattern recognition)
post #816 I give a Elliott Wave analysis on future price action.

and those are just two I randomly choose at the front of the thread. So, for me I have not changed ONE thing about the way I trade....

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,494
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:20am Jul 12, 2012 5:20am
Quoting Evaluator
Olivia,

I have always trade the Symphonie Method...I have never stopped trading from this method.... Rest assured all my orders are firmly based on Symphonie Signals....

I freely admit since the first of this thread....(go back and read) and you will see I have always referenced Elliott waves and trendlines with my Symphonie Signals.

But I only enter a trade on the basis of a Symphonie Signal.....but you must admit that the markt has become more complex than 2011 and has been very difficult to trade at times....

I post things about trendlines,...
Yes you've always mentioned them, I'm not disputing that, but look at the earlier posts of yours when you were tripling the accounts, did you wait and wait and wait, no, you were going in on M15 and M5 signals and telling everyone else to because it is a good system. And no I don't think the market has become more complex, I think your analysis has become more complex and there is a big difference between the two.
  • #14,495
  • Edited 7:27am Jul 12, 2012 5:26am | Edited 7:27am
Quoting ohammond
Yes you've always mentioned them, I'm not disputing that, but look at the earlier posts of yours when you were tripling the accounts, did you wait and wait and wait, no, you were going in on M15 and M5 signals and telling everyone else to because it is a good system. And no I don't think the market has become more complex, I think your analysis has become more complex and there is a big difference between the two.

Sorry to disappoint but no....I have not really changed my trading style at all to be quite honest. Yes....I was tripling accounts in the beginning because I had something to proove...and that was the Symphonie System.

I traded 24hrs a day with very little sleep for 3 months to show that the system worked in all markets and all timeframes and it almost killed me....!

So you are right...if you trade 24hours a day with little to no sleep you can make money.... But my body and spirit cannot take that.

I only trade during strict hours now and I have been tending to trade 3 days a week now....I want more enjoyment of life than to be tied to a computer 24 hours a day.

But my method and style have NEVER changed.

Evaluator.:nerd:

P.S. As to tripling my accounts....I am still doing that but I do not want to gloat about it. I fell behind my goals at the start of 2012 (the reason I stopped the published trials) but have since made them up and I am now 2 months ahead of my schedule.
  • #14,496
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:26am Jul 12, 2012 5:26am
Quoting ohammond
WelL all I can say to that is this thread has gone way off course as far as I can see.

I think Eval was making far more pips before when he was just using symphonie instead of waiting and waiting for the right thing all the time with a wave count of this and that, many times completely wrong. Its not symphonie anymore and thats why I haven't been posting much at all, and it doesn't like its about to change all too soon.
Agreed, imo less is more, especially intraday. I prefer the simplicity of RealJumper's approach.

Edit: ...today's S2 beckoning perhaps and i'll be done for the day.
  • #14,497
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:32am Jul 12, 2012 5:32am
Quoting Evaluator
Sorry to disappoint but no....I have not really changed my trading style at all to be quite honest. Yes....I was tripling accounts in the beginning because I had something to proove...and that was the Symphonie System.

I traded 24hrs a day with very little sleep for 3 months to show that the system worked in all markets and all timeframes and it almost killed me....!

So you are right...if you trade 24hours a day with little to no sleep you can make money.... But my body and spirit cannot take that.

I only trade during strict hours now...
You do not have to trade 24/7 to make money with symphonie and you know that, none of us do that and you were making money when you were posting that you only traded from London open to London close, what you are doing now is taking symphonie trades when it goes with your analysis and ignoring hundreds of pips the other way because of it. And like you posted only the other day, you put three trades in against the way it was moving (and the way others of us were actually making money by using symphonie) and luckily it worked out for you, but thats the important word here luckily.
  • #14,498
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:37am Jul 12, 2012 5:37am
Quoting ohammond
You do not have to trade 24/7 to make money with symphonie and you know that, none of us do that and you were making money when you were posting that you only traded from London open to London close, what you are doing now is taking symphonie trades when it goes with your analysis and ignoring hundreds of pips the other way because of it. And like you posted only the other day, you put three trades in against the way it was moving (and the way others of us were actually making money by using symphonie) and luckily it worked out for you, but thats...
Olivia,

All my orders are based on a Symphonie Signal. I may switch between timeframes and go from 60 min to 5 min but all trades are opened and executed on SYMPHONIE.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,499
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:39am Jul 12, 2012 5:39am
Quoting Evaluator
Sorry to disappoint but no....I have not really changed my trading style at all to be quite honest. Yes....I was tripling accounts in the beginning because I had something to proove...and that was the Symphonie System.

I traded 24hrs a day with very little sleep for 3 months to show that the system worked in all markets and all timeframes and it almost killed me....!

So you are right...if you trade 24hours a day with little to no sleep you can make money.... But my body and spirit cannot take that.

I only trade during strict hours now...
I don't trade 24 hours per day......just 8.

I'm not tied to my computer......I have my life of skydiving and motorcycling.

This year has been no better or worse than any other year as far as market movements are concerned, but it has been a damn fine year as far as my account is concerned.

We have spoken about this several times in private Eval.....but you're not listening. You are making trading ever more difficult for yourself......and I keep on saying....TRADE THE SYSTEM.

You don't need to complexity of Elliot waves, which is an art, not a science....and a very subjective art at that. Look at the wave count of 5 different Elliot Wavers and you'll get 5 different wave counts.

The Symphonie system is simple........why keep complicating it??

Just apply the system as it stands and make money every day.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #14,500
  • Jul 12, 2012 5:42am Jul 12, 2012 5:42am
Quoting Evaluator
Olivia,

All my orders are based on a Symphonie Signal. I may switch between timeframes and go from 60 min to 5 min but all trades are opened and executed on SYMPHONIE.

Evaluator.:nerd:
I didn't say they weren't. I have no doubt whatsoever that you go in on a symphonie signal. What I said was you are ignoring signals that go against your more complex analysis. Now, whatever way you want to trade is absolutely nothing to do with me BUT there are a lot of newbies coming onto the thread that are taking notice of what you are saying as the originator of the thread and system, they are then taking trades based on your analysis and losing money, or are totally confused about what they should be looking at. Look at brimex "where are we going now" he said it only the other day http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...66#post5831366. It shouldn't be about that at all.
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