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  • #37,101
  • Jul 11, 2012 10:09pm Jul 11, 2012 10:09pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi J-Sharpie,

not sure if you read post#5001 yet.
but trading is a skill based activity.
it require practice practice practice.
this will require a lot of time and hardwork.

my view is that your USDCHF trade is in the right direction of the higher TF. then it is up to your trade management skills which will determine how much profit you will get out of this trade.

however, to know exactly what went wrong with your other trades, we need to see your charts.

regards,
I have read the post with the attachment. I also have tried to read the first 25 or so pages but that seems to use indicators that isn't included in tah template.

and you say i did the right thing for that trade but my management caused the loss? What about that magenta colored MA. Did that matter?

what about the current stand for eurgbp i entered long around .7893 on m15. It went below the dragon and i got a little scared there. Was that a good entry? Or did I misread something?
  • #37,102
  • Jul 11, 2012 10:10pm Jul 11, 2012 10:10pm
Quoting Msis125125
There is something seriously wrong with this forum for a last few days, everyone wright about prety much everything exept sonic system. What we need is to learn where to enter and where to exit. So please people lets stick tp that. I been trading for 2 days, very good infact, but didnt want to post my entrys as noone else besid tah and guru and emmanuel do it. What is the point of it all then?
WoW! EXCELLENT POST!

And precisely expresses the whole point of trading only Sonic R., posting only Sonic R. trades, and doing so with clear, clean charts properly annotated......

.....so folks can stick to the study of that which they came here to learn!


Thanks, Msis,
-tah
  • #37,103
  • Jul 11, 2012 10:15pm Jul 11, 2012 10:15pm
Quoting Msis125125
There is something seriously wrong with this forum for a last few days, everyone wright about prety much everything exept sonic system. What we need is to learn where to enter and where to exit. So please people lets stick tp that. I been trading for 2 days, very good infact, but didnt want to post my entrys as noone else besid tah and guru and emmanuel do it. What is the point of it all then?
I know your felling my friend. I think i was also just post my enties without SS. I will try to post will full SS. But in my mind i was giving some free space to TAH to post. He feels he needs more free space.
  • #37,104
  • Jul 11, 2012 10:19pm Jul 11, 2012 10:19pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
that's reaction to domestic data release just while ago.
some gap ... spread widen so much and order execution freeze!!!!

wait till the chaos settles down and Big Picture will be clearer.
I look at H4 and D and 1.022 can be swing point last week and this week.
why would anyone want to short in week 27 opening?
The answer to you question is because whether longer TFs (Weekly, Daily, H4) have trend up/dn or ranging, down on M15 the Sonic R. System can find good trades in both directions. It always has, it still does, and it always will. Thank you, Master Sonicdeejay!

-tah
  • #37,105
  • Edited 10:47pm Jul 11, 2012 10:33pm | Edited 10:47pm
Quoting GuruKrish
See your chart. Before you entering the trade there is no proper PA. It is just ranging market. Try to predict long wave. If you pick small weak wave you may expect trade like this one. And also notice that you entered trade before LO. So you should keep in mind to book small profit. Try BE trade will help you.
J-Sharpie and GuruKrish,

So what if it was a ranging market? Good runs frequently follow ranging. In fact, the longer the ranging and the tighter the ranging the better the ensuing runs usually are! There was nothing wrong with PA before the setup PA wave. And the trade direction was correct!

The primary problem here, as GuruKrish stated, is the trade was entered outside the LS. Period. Asian session entries are always with higher risk of going nowhere, or even reversing. Even if they do run, it is usually not very far. One might simply take the view that the SL was way too tight. If the SL had given the trade more breathing room, look at where the trade would be by now! An asian session trade should either have a very close-in target, or have a wide enough SL to give the trade the breathing room it will need if targets are not reached by the coming of the LS! When LS comes, the odds are for suddenly wider ranging or whips before progress in a trade resumes. The SL needs to allow for that. Get in and out of a pre-LS trade before the LO, or allow for wider swings.

-tah
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  • Jul 11, 2012 10:55pm Jul 11, 2012 10:55pm
Quoting ImNewHere
My first trade (on demo,dont want to jump straight to live dont we). Entered at 97.479 and SL hit via TS. Im happy if i even get a breakeven. and i should read up more about Support & Resistance. seriously dont get it!
Where exactly did you enter? What PA wave were you trading? We need to see the PA wave so we can see the PA wave leg #3 that you entered on, before being able to comment.
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  • #37,107
  • Jul 11, 2012 11:16pm Jul 11, 2012 11:16pm
Hi TAH and Everyone,

This is the collection of pairs that can be tradable in different sessions. I have searched the web and collect details and based on that i put into a table. Anyone having suggestion in mind plz post.
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  • #37,108
  • Edited 11:36pm Jul 11, 2012 11:23pm | Edited 11:36pm
Quoting J-Sharpie
I have read the post with the attachment. I also have tried to read the first 25 or so pages but that seems to use indicators that isn't included in tah template.

and you say i did the right thing for that trade but my management caused the loss? What about that magenta colored MA. Did that matter?

what about the current stand for eurgbp i entered long around .7893 on m15. It went below the dragon and i got a little scared there. Was that a good entry? Or did I misread something?
1. Obviously "the first 25 or so pages" (and a lot more pages) came before the TAH templates. So, equally obviously, they will have antiquated stuff on them that is no longer used. Simple logic applied.

2. I, and GuruKrish, have already commented on the trade. It was an asian session trade. Get in and get out before FO/LO, or give the trade more breathing room if you believe in it. As for the Trend line. Does it matter? What do you think? PA can change direction before the overall market sentiment also decides to.

3. Why did you enter EG? When did you enter EG? How can we tell without more information if it was a good entry? I know I entered EG. And my entry was outside (after) the LS. So it was with higher risk. I consider my entry ok, but right now PA has yet to agree with me. And you say that price "....went below the dragon and i got a little scared there." Get used to it. There will rarely be a trade where price does not flucuate while moving in the trade direction. If you get scared of a little piss ant pullback, just wait until your first genuine whipsaw! Have clean diapers in-hand!

-tah
  • #37,109
  • Jul 11, 2012 11:45pm Jul 11, 2012 11:45pm
mein Gott!
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #37,110
  • Jul 11, 2012 11:54pm Jul 11, 2012 11:54pm
Trade with pending at 1.5500 TP will be dynamic based in divergence forming against my position. Trade is taken with no SL
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Some people say I'm lucky, but the more I practice the luckier I get
  • #37,111
  • Jul 11, 2012 11:59pm Jul 11, 2012 11:59pm
Quoting J-Sharpie
I have read the post with the attachment. I also have tried to read the first 25 or so pages but that seems to use indicators that isn't included in tah template.

and you say i did the right thing for that trade but my management caused the loss? What about that magenta colored MA. Did that matter?

what about the current stand for eurgbp i entered long around .7893 on m15. It went below the dragon and i got a little scared there. Was that a good entry? Or did I misread something?

Hi J-Sharpie,
only your 3rd post ...and what have you gotten back?
please be patient my friend.
Take your time read more of the posts and you will learn more than you need to. You also will learn many things which you may or need to unlearn later in your trading. That is the more difficult thing to do becasue I spend few years to learn about trading and had to unlearn many things to get my business right. I did not get that right the first time.

EG pair is a low range trading pair but the price per pip is attractive.
At this learning stage, I will recommend stick to the fewer currency pairs like EU, GU, AU, and EJ for practice and demo.
Also you need to decide on your trading hours and the market type you choose to trade. I will later PM you a structure for training to be a trader.

My view on EG: it is still in a dark tunnel and still no sign of any light yet.
Let there be light soon!

Kind Regards,
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #37,112
  • Jul 12, 2012 12:18am Jul 12, 2012 12:18am
Quoting emmanuel7788
mein Gott!
  • #37,113
  • Jul 12, 2012 12:21am Jul 12, 2012 12:21am
what was that gbp/jpy spike!???
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  • #37,114
  • Edited 12:32am Jul 12, 2012 12:30am | Edited 12:32am
Quoting dafox1
what was that gbp/jpy spike!???
Hi dafox,

you are asking for a BB story. LOL.

to me, on my chart, that is a test of of yesterday' high after a DIB.

Trade Well!
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #37,115
  • Jul 12, 2012 12:40am Jul 12, 2012 12:40am
Quoting Robot Trader
Trade with pending at 1.5500 TP will be dynamic based in divergence forming against my position. Trade is taken with no SL
Hi RT,

There is IB then OB,
to me that is sign of increasing market interest.
I am on your side.
Let''s ride the wave.

Good Trading mate!
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #37,116
  • Jul 12, 2012 12:49am Jul 12, 2012 12:49am
Quoting duyk20
Sprechen Sie Deustch? oder Chinesisch?

mfg,
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #37,117
  • Jul 12, 2012 12:54am Jul 12, 2012 12:54am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi RT,

There is IB then OB,
to me that is sign of increasing market interest.
I am on your side.
Let''s ride the wave.

Good Trading mate!
Looking at the 4H chart we have tightening of the Bollinger Bands (a sign of a move) and price broke through the 20 MA now it is forming a flag just below the 20 MA, if the 20 MA can hold from moving higher and the flag can breakdown then I see the next real support being 1.5400. However if price can break above the 20 MA and hold above it is a sign for me to get out.
Some people say I'm lucky, but the more I practice the luckier I get
  • #37,118
  • Edited 1:59am Jul 12, 2012 1:17am | Edited 1:59am
Quoting Robot Trader
Trade with pending at 1.5500 TP will be dynamic based in divergence forming against my position. Trade is taken with no SL
Are you long or short? Entry supposed to be white (or blue), TP green, SL red. Please follow convention. Your chart is not understandable. Neither is this..."will be dynamic based in divergence forming against my position"...??????? What the hell does that mean? Whatever it is, divergence is not a part of the Sonic R. System. And if you went long with PA below the Dragon, this is not trading the Sonic R. System!!!!!! If you are going short, then fine. Either way, you should already have at least one TP in mind, selected from historic S&R, not from "divergence".

Impossible to make any sense out of this posted chart and therefore worthless to learning Sonicers.

-tah
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  • #37,119
  • Jul 12, 2012 1:22am Jul 12, 2012 1:22am
Quoting Robot Trader
Looking at the 4H chart we have tightening of the Bollinger Bands (a sign of a move) and price broke through the 20 MA now it is forming a flag just below the 20 MA, if the 20 MA can hold from moving higher and the flag can breakdown then I see the next real support being 1.5400. However if price can break above the 20 MA and hold above it is a sign for me to get out.
Robot Trader, this is all fine and well, but it is not the Sonic R. System. I suggest you consider attending a different forum for your methods.

Respectfully,
-traderathome
  • #37,120
  • Jul 12, 2012 1:33am Jul 12, 2012 1:33am
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