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  • #9,681
  • Jul 2, 2012 9:09pm Jul 2, 2012 9:09pm
Quoting xpete911
No rebates from IB. They fix their spread so it's almost always .5pips (eurusd) and $5.00/roundtrip/lot so it's almost a fixed $10 per lot for the round trip for market or limit orders. They have their own issues, but if MB doesn't offer something significant, why should we stay?

All large brokers seem to offer something significant. MB Trading offered $4.00 rebates on limit orders (now they don't) and the worst customer service in the industry. IB offers the cheapest prices, most professional accounts, almost as horrible as MB customer service,...
Just about everyone of my orders is market in, Limit out, so with MB, I pay $2.00 roundtrip, and I get taken out before the bid/ask crosses most of the time. Way cheaper than IB for me. I guess if you mostly ran market orders, it's a conversation, but I used IB for a while. The platform sucks and executions came and went. And there is no way that IB's customer service is better than MB's. I always get responses from MB via Chat or phone. You can't even talk to anyone at IB (at least, you couldn't when I used them).
  • #9,682
  • Jul 2, 2012 10:37pm Jul 2, 2012 10:37pm
Everyone approaches the market with a different style..

You pay $2.00 not including the sporadic spread on MB. It averages .8pips during the best market hours ( I've have a scanner watching every tick for the past year ) So you're not paying any less than you would with IB. Regardless, the trade costs are pretty close.

IB's platform is a complete dog.. but I link Multicharts to both brokers so that doesn't matter much to me.

IB offers something significant (all-in-one account for hedging and simplicity). MB doesn't offer anything significant anymore..

It would be great if they at least would offer the Free EXN to their native platform!! ... which was my initial reason for posting.
  • #9,683
  • Jul 3, 2012 10:09am Jul 3, 2012 10:09am
I can't log in with desktop pro, nor from my office, nor from my VPS, since 1/2h.
No way to reach the chat.
And on the website, I see :
Current system status : All systems are normal at 11:04:30 AM ...
What will be MBT's alibi this time ?
  • #9,684
  • Jul 3, 2012 10:20am Jul 3, 2012 10:20am
Quoting Elsejul
I can't log in with desktop pro, nor from my office, nor from my VPS, since 1/2h.
No way to reach the chat.
And on the website, I see :
Current system status : All systems are normal at 11:04:30 AM ...
What will be MBT's alibi this time ?
All good here.
  • #9,685
  • Jul 3, 2012 10:23am Jul 3, 2012 10:23am
Quoting IndyTrader
All good here.
I just had the chat : "MBT has an issue with Dektop pro login"
  • #9,686
  • Jul 3, 2012 11:07am Jul 3, 2012 11:07am
Weekly chart with AUD/U
since the week started i got this long wick till 0.099
Hope this will b correct soon
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  • #9,687
  • Jul 3, 2012 12:32pm Jul 3, 2012 12:32pm
Quoting egkid
Weekly chart with AUD/U
since the week started i got this long wick till 0.099
Hope this will b correct soon
or "get rich quick" scheme has reached you...
"hey hey what can I do"
  • #9,688
  • Jul 4, 2012 6:23am Jul 4, 2012 6:23am
  •  ilove
  • | Joined Dec 2011 | Status: because he first loved us. | 52 Posts
Hi MBT, It happens again from 5 GMT.

If people can't verify their EAs on the demo platform, how could you expect them to invest hard-earned real money with confidence???
If you can't tell, just wait. The market will.
  • #9,689
  • Jul 4, 2012 12:13pm Jul 4, 2012 12:13pm
Quoting ilove
Hi MBT, It happens again from 5 GMT.

If people can't verify their EAs on the demo platform, how could you expect them to invest hard-earned real money with confidence???
I had the same problem with demo accounts...however when I finally switched to life mt4 and dtopro, service became quite good from a 1-10 I’ll give it an 8....seems to be acceptable now...time will tell
  • #9,690
  • Jul 5, 2012 1:51am Jul 5, 2012 1:51am
Quoting TraderPablo
I had the same problem with demo accounts...however when I finally switched to life mt4 and dtopro, service became quite good from a 1-10 I’ll give it an 8....seems to be acceptable now...time will tell
Yeah, no dah, should a broker give a damn about demo users or live users that don't trade (basically the same).
  • #9,691
  • Jul 5, 2012 7:38am Jul 5, 2012 7:38am
Quoting cts022
what are you using as an alternative?
CTS, an alternative to retail fx is the fx futures market. Brokers conduct business in an identical manner in the fx futures. Nothing is perfect - (mf global) but definitely less of a headache than dealing with these retail fx brokers and bucket shops. I don't think MB is a bucket shop - but my experience has been less than ideal. They definitely have a long way to go with platform and related technology. In all fairness the same can be said for the rest of retail fx.
  • #9,692
  • Jul 5, 2012 9:10am Jul 5, 2012 9:10am
Is MB still clearing through PNSN, a penny stock?

According to this article,

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Even if the illiquid investment bled into Penson’s regulatory capital, there is insurance through the Securities Investor Protection Corp. (SIPC), a federally mandated entity funded by broker-dealers, that covers up to $500,000 of stocks, options and bonds per account. Futures contracts, commodities and currencies are among the assets ineligible for coverage.
  • #9,693
  • Jul 5, 2012 1:35pm Jul 5, 2012 1:35pm
Quoting IndyTrader
Yeah, no dah, should a broker give a damn about demo users or live users that don't trade (basically the same).

If they just would have a solid platform with direct lines to trading desks that would be a start......trading big tickets would make me VERY nervous with a FX broker as of today.....the futures exchange would be the alternative tp
  • #9,694
  • Jul 5, 2012 2:50pm Jul 5, 2012 2:50pm
Quoting grimReaper
Is MB still clearing through PNSN, a penny stock?

According to this article,
No.
  • #9,695
  • Jul 5, 2012 3:16pm Jul 5, 2012 3:16pm
Quoting TraderPablo
If they just would have a solid platform with direct lines to trading desks that would be a start......trading big tickets would make me VERY nervous with a FX broker as of today.....the futures exchange would be the alternative tp
if i was trading future's i would be a little worry because MB does clear it trades thru penson, there forex business is there own.
  • #9,696
  • Jul 5, 2012 11:22pm Jul 5, 2012 11:22pm
Quoting IndyTrader
No.
Since when? Who they clear their equities through now?


Quoting PoundTrader
if i was trading future's i would be a little worry because MB does clear it trades thru penson, there forex business is there own.
Yes, but what are the implications to FX traders if PNSN goes down?

Let me put this way, how much safer do you feel putting money on Alapri US Pro or IB?
  • #9,697
  • Jul 5, 2012 11:51pm Jul 5, 2012 11:51pm
Quoting grimReaper
Since when? Who they clear their equities through now?




Yes, but what are the implications to FX traders if PNSN goes down?

Let me put this way, how much safer do you feel putting money on Alapri US Pro or IB?
yes how much safer.......good Q....

The whole FX industry needs an overhaul
  • #9,698
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:44am Jul 6, 2012 1:44am
Quoting PoundTrader
if i was trading future's i would be a little worry because MB does clear it trades thru penson, there forex business is there own.
Get your info correct please. MB now clears through Apex. PNSN was set aside.
  • #9,699
  • Jul 6, 2012 1:46am Jul 6, 2012 1:46am
Quoting grimReaper
Since when? Who they clear their equities through now?




Yes, but what are the implications to FX traders if PNSN goes down?

Let me put this way, how much safer do you feel putting money on Alapri US Pro or IB?
Dude. Get some real info.

MB Trading cleared through PNSN, now it clears through APEX. Read up on that and you will find that they are a very well funded organization. Meanwhile, MB Trading's Forex operation (used to be under the name MB Trading Futures, but now also runs under the DBA MB Trading Forex) NEVER cleared through Penson. That's why you can't have one account for stocks, futures, and forex with MBT.
  • #9,700
  • Jul 6, 2012 3:19am Jul 6, 2012 3:19am
Quoting IndyTrader
Get your info correct please. MB now clears through Apex. PNSN was set aside.
Basicly, Apex is the firm which was created by Penson and Peak6 about a month ago. There is the info: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...31-717791.html
"hey hey what can I do"
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