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  • #660,241
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:22pm Jun 20, 2012 3:22pm
Quoting Izanami
Stupid market .............. After this week i will stop trade with news
all stupid include the news >
no man .
high impact news are very useful . to earn at least 10 pips
  • #660,242
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm
Quoting Crassius
No one has sustainable risk controlled results any where near 1000% per year.

Just as a gambler can hit a parlay bet and take down a big score, they can't do it over and over again....

Most people on this forum have unrealistic expectations of what is achievable over a long time horizon...

Take at a look at the Robins World Cup Challenge page. This is a long running, trading contest of the worlds best traders... often taking on more risk than they would trade day to day because that is the nature of a contest...

here's a list of Past Top Finishers...

you are missing the point....small accounts can grow at higher rate...you hit the ceiling once your account size is big

so contrary to popular belief large accounts are more difficult to grow in terms of % gains just like large business or economies...
  • #660,243
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm
[quote=samirs;5778449]
Quoting fxloser
u just have to watch the market and u can judge what will happ. i think we have a great indicator (our mind )
/quote]

non-sense....you seem not to be prepared to put effort and just ready to jump...

till you think you can judge / predict what will happen please dont put even $1 in the market
ok
  • #660,244
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm
Quoting fxloser
no man .
high impact news are very useful . to earn at least 10 pips
convinced you must be a troll
  • #660,245
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm Jun 20, 2012 3:24pm
Quoting fxloser
yes agreed interested in quick money
If you want to deserve your nickname, why not
Trade what you see..
  • #660,246
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:25pm Jun 20, 2012 3:25pm
Quoting samirs
you are missing the point....small accounts can grow at higher rate...you hit the ceiling once your account size is big

so contrary to popular belief large accounts are more difficult to grow in terms of % gains just like large business or economies...

This would be true only if your trade size affected the market....

This is a problem Warren Buffet has....
  • #660,247
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:27pm Jun 20, 2012 3:27pm
Nice channel to the downside formed on the 15min with 3 hits minimum.

I would look for a continued downtrend from here it looks.

other x/usd pairs demonstrating the same trend
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  • #660,248
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:31pm Jun 20, 2012 3:31pm
Quoting todstars2
Nice channel to the downside formed on the 15min with 3 hits minimum.

I would look for a continued downtrend from here it looks.

other x/usd pairs demonstrating the same trend
Im looking for the same,next hour shows how hold`s
  • #660,249
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:31pm Jun 20, 2012 3:31pm
Quoting todstars2
Nice channel to the downside formed on the 15min with 3 hits minimum.

I would look for a continued downtrend from here it looks.

other x/usd pairs demonstrating the same trend
Can't really count that channel because it was a news reaction/overeaction/spike.

You very well could be right, but I think in the short term it's going long, and alll this spiking was just a shakeout before another couple hundred pip move up.
  • #660,250
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:33pm Jun 20, 2012 3:33pm
Quoting Crassius
This would be true only if your trade size affected the market....

This is a problem Warren Buffet has....
no it is a problem of mind set....in fact ironically as you grow the relative position size reduces since ability to take that level of absolute loss is rare
  • #660,251
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:36pm Jun 20, 2012 3:36pm
sorry guys.. i am so tired after 14 hours job ty for your advises . i must will try my best to follow ur advises
basically after watching so many videos
after reading so many books
still i dont know how to start
how to calculate the PP , Elliot waves , SR, Break out , nobody ready to tell u how to start . every one just telling . how to use.
guys are u waiting for >>>1.2721 ? R1 ?becoz 1.2659 (PP) has broken
  • #660,252
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:38pm Jun 20, 2012 3:38pm
Next 3.5 hours will be slow with almost no move, then 1.266 will be tested again and afterwards we will know the direction of tomorrow and maybe the rest of the week...

Catch some sleep before it happens
  • #660,253
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:40pm Jun 20, 2012 3:40pm
Quoting Crassius
A realistic goal would be to turn $1000 into $1400 to $1600 in year


Get real....
Bwhahahahah, you get real, why even bother trading then if thats what you think is one of the highest achievable returns.

That doesn't even make mathmatic sense. If a trader has decent system with a good win/loss ratio, and risks just 3% per trade, and trades only once a day, and has a return of only 1:1 and compounds ...he easily makes well past that return.

I think you are confusing investing in a fund with active day trading. Hell, I doubled my live micro test account in about two months. And that was risking 5% per trade and trading 2-3 times a day or less.
  • #660,254
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:42pm Jun 20, 2012 3:42pm
1.266 has broken . and new target According to Fibonacci is 1.2721 (R1)
soi hope tomorrow currency will go to 1.2721 . good ni8
  • #660,255
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:47pm Jun 20, 2012 3:47pm
four days of banging on this daily trendline lower and lower and it still cannot make a higher high that day one on 6/17



Is there too much weight sitting on top, as the weekly chart attached suggest for this pair to continue its advance.

you gotta ask yourself, will she turn and continue downward from here?
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  • #660,256
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:48pm Jun 20, 2012 3:48pm
Quoting fxloser
sorry guys.. i am so tired after 14 hours job ty for your advises . i must will try my best to follow ur advises
basically after watching so many videos
after reading so many books
still i dont know how to start
how to calculate the PP , Elliot waves , SR, Break out , nobody ready to tell u how to start . every one just telling . how to use.
guys are u waiting for >>>1.2721 ? R1 ?becoz 1.2659 (PP) has broken
I'll just repeat what I said....trading is abt psychology and not these PP, EW and other mumbo jumbo

people have been trading for 1000s of years and the trading mantra is simple buy low, sell high

all the trading indicators etc provide you is a reason to enter the trade but once entered you should be able to manage the trade with no fear / greed ie no emotions

to do that you need to ensure
- your position size is small relative to your trading capital so you can cut the looser early and let the winners run
- you are fully disciplined all the time so you can exit the trades without being impacted by greed and fear. Very difficult else why would so many people time and again let winners turn in to massive losers, or enter trade on whims or with large sizes
- fully realise and internalise that no one can predict the market - successful players only keep their lossess smaller than winners.
- you will be absolutely patient to find right opportunity as per your thought process before pulling the trigger.
  • #660,257
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:53pm Jun 20, 2012 3:53pm
Quoting KumoDragon
Bwhahahahah, you get real, why even bother trading then if thats what you think is one of the highest achievable returns.

That doesn't even make mathmatic sense. If a trader has decent system with a good win/loss ratio, and risks just 3% per trade, and trades only once a day, and has a return of only 1:1 and compounds ...he easily makes well past that return.

I think you are confusing investing in a fund with active day trading. Hell, I doubled my live micro test account in about two months. And that was risking 5% per trade and trading...
I'm talking trading not investing....

and my only response would be if your that good, you should enter the Robins Cup Contest..... you're giving up huge fees for doing what you already are...

also look into Currensee.... have your account hooked up there.... clients will mirror your trades in their account and give you 15% of everything they make...

some trade leaders have 2 million dollars following them.....

What I bet your are missing is risk controlled.....

But prove me wrong... hook your account up to Currensee and make 15% of the 2 million dollars or so that would follow you....

when you look at long term day tradin g results.... no one gets the kinda returns you claim... perfectly possible for 2 months..... or even 6 months...

long term... you just haven't hit the string of loses you will inevitably hit that will bust you out....

But please prove me wrong.... hook up your account and have a go....
  • #660,258
  • Jun 20, 2012 3:59pm Jun 20, 2012 3:59pm
2012-06-20_00h00 - ZigZag + Pivot Survey _ EURUSD _ Rollover _ W-25 # R144 (Text EN)

RECAP:


This is what we have had for the remaining sessions ahead on WEDNESDAY ...

1.)

2012-06-20_00h00 - ZigZag + Pivot Survey _ EURUSD _ Rollover _ W-25 # N144 (Text EN)

Quick-Tips in a TABLE SURVEY for the EUR/USD: with explaning text ...

23h00 CET Aufdatung ...

End of Day and latest UPDATE (ROLLOVER OPEN) ...

This contains an OUTLOOK for the trading sessions ahead of this week no. 25 ...

###

And as it has been mentioned several before in our own trading sections ...

Major move up might have been done ...

Once crossed below those mentioned zone 1.2631 then you can forget the upside at first ...

Then it may trade to the lower side again ...

Next challenge will be 1.2597 and 1.2550 then ...



2.)

2012-06-20_00h00 - ZigZag + Pivot Survey _ EURUSD _ Rollover _ W-25 # R144 (Text EN)

Valid as long as resistances near 1.2748/ 54 may curtail the upside for now ... which looks likely atm ...






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  • #660,259
  • Jun 20, 2012 4:02pm Jun 20, 2012 4:02pm
FED chairman talk and EURUSD FLY .... in the end .... NOTHING !!! almost same level of the opening !

Check attached and let's see 2moro , it should start the trend for the next days !

gd night from Italy
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  • #660,260
  • Jun 20, 2012 4:12pm Jun 20, 2012 4:12pm
Quoting KumoDragon
Bwhahahahah, you get real, why even bother trading then if thats what you think is one of the highest achievable returns.

That doesn't even make mathmatic sense. If a trader has decent system with a good win/loss ratio, and risks just 3% per trade, and trades only once a day, and has a return of only 1:1 and compounds ...he easily makes well past that return.

I think you are confusing investing in a fund with active day trading. Hell, I doubled my live micro test account in about two months. And that was risking 5% per trade and trading...

well said clearly trading is not worth the trouble if you can turn $ 1000 in to $1800 after a year....
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