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  • #36,121
  • Jun 18, 2012 10:25am Jun 18, 2012 10:25am
Quoting sonicdeejay
GO google, u tube.. MArtin Armstrong..

He has the very good logic why USD is strong.. I love it..

Sonic
Thanks Master, will have a look.

Did you short this afternoon? It was a good catch for me.
  • #36,122
  • Jun 18, 2012 10:32am Jun 18, 2012 10:32am
Quoting duyk20

It was a good catch for me.

Gr8..

I didn't short.. But I move up my Long SL.. to protect my winning pips..and it was indeed protected..

I am one happy man..

http://bprubble.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/happy.jpg


Sonic
  • #36,123
  • Jun 18, 2012 10:34am Jun 18, 2012 10:34am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Gr8..

I didn't short.. But I move up my Long SL.. to protect my winning pips..and it was indeed protected..

I am one happy man..

Sonic
Always good to hear your wisdom.
  • #36,124
  • Edited 1:10pm Jun 18, 2012 1:00pm | Edited 1:10pm
Small counter trade long at 1.25733 in a high volume activity area on todays drop. Lets see how it goes :nerd:

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #36,125
  • Jun 18, 2012 7:30pm Jun 18, 2012 7:30pm
Quoting GuruKrish
Hi TAH and Sonic,

Sorry for the late post. I have my commitment to run my biz. TAH as you said i changed the content. Yes there was confussion in my last post. Some examples of charts are zoomed with black background is for better understanding. I have changed font size to 12 for more readability. Every page is neatly aligned and justified. More points added as per my view.

Plz read and review it and post it in the first page. This will decrease number of people asking latest version like post no #36096....
Still nice work, GuruKrish!

I have attached a series of charts here to demonstrate that the SonicR Solid Dragon never needs to show with spaces, no matter how much you zoom in on the candles! I think if you use this feature of the TAH indicators in your .pdf that it will also demonstrate to readers that this feature exists, which some do not yet understand. It will also make the .pdf look better. You can turn off the MT4 chart Auto Scroll (icon with chart axis and green triangle) and slide the PA back and forth so that zoomed in charts (enlarged candles) can remain centered on whatever PA you want. With first four of the example charts below I did not do that, so the most current PA is what shows as the chart was zoomed in each step. With the fifth example chart I did turn off the Auto Scroll, and centerd PA on the London Open so you can see how this works.

-tah
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  • #36,126
  • Edited 8:09pm Jun 18, 2012 7:45pm | Edited 8:09pm
GU: Entered long early in asian session because these are strange times, and because yesterday the basing showed consistency.
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  • #36,127
  • Jun 18, 2012 8:00pm Jun 18, 2012 8:00pm
Hi,
Please help. I've loaded the Sonic R. Ea but it doesn't make any trades.
Thanks
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  • #36,128
  • Jun 18, 2012 8:38pm Jun 18, 2012 8:38pm
Quoting traderathome
GU: Entered long early in asian session because these are strange times, and because yesterday the basing showed consistency.
Hi Tah,

I was just wondering why you don't show any consideration for this clearly established area of resistance.


I respect you putting your trade out there. Too many after the fact showings :-)
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It's my price or no price at all!
  • #36,129
  • Jun 18, 2012 9:11pm Jun 18, 2012 9:11pm
Quoting 4extool
Hi Tah,

I was just wondering why you don't show any consideration for this clearly established area of resistance.


I respect you putting your trade out there. Too many after the fact showings :-)
I see the activity around the lower half number support area as consolidation for a move upwards. Obviously there are various levels of resistance in the way of a move upwards. So, the question was to enter per the setup, or delay entry. Asian session setups sometimes run, but more often are followed by LS pullbacks before a true breakout. In order to trade this best, to get the opportunity in case it ran in the asian session, but not to be too high in entry in case it did not and a pullback occurs, I decided to go with the entry per the setup.
  • #36,130
  • Jun 18, 2012 9:18pm Jun 18, 2012 9:18pm
EU: Entered long. Same story as for GU previously.
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  • #36,131
  • Jun 18, 2012 9:54pm Jun 18, 2012 9:54pm
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered long. Same story as for GU previously.
I already close that position and pot 35 pips. do u think it still go up? idk that since today's frecast is pretty bad for Eur
Money Management and Patience is the Key
  • #36,132
  • Edited 10:24pm Jun 18, 2012 10:13pm | Edited 10:24pm
Quoting scuderia
I already close that position and pot 35 pips. do u think it still go up? idk that since today's frecast is pretty bad for Eur
You already closed for 35 pips? You must have been picking lows for your position. My position is with a M15 SonicR setup. They're not the same. I don't know if it will go up or not. I took the setup and now must wait to see what happens.

Today's forecast is pretty bad for EUR? Oh? Whose forcast is that? What forecast is that? Do you really belive it? Do you think the market will abide by it? Does it really make any difference? Too many questions, and the forcast might be treated as just so much hogwash so far as the market goes today. I don't pay any attention to all that crap. I believe much of it is put out just to throw traders off balance. I'd rather trade in a vaccuum and just pay attention to the price action.
  • #36,133
  • Jun 18, 2012 10:43pm Jun 18, 2012 10:43pm
Quoting traderathome
You already closed for 35 pips? You must have been picking lows for your position. My position is with a M15 SonicR setup. They're not the same. I don't know if it will go up or not. I took the setup and now must wait to see what happens.

Today's forecast is pretty bad for EUR? Oh? Whose forcast is that? What forecast is that? Do you really belive it? Do you think the market will abide by it? Does it really make any difference? Too many questions, and the forcast might be treated as just so much hogwash so far as the market goes today. I don't...
Yup i did pick some low. coz not sonic r setup i dun post it here. it was just simple support and resistance. The german ZEW news that worry me.
Money Management and Patience is the Key
  • #36,134
  • Jun 19, 2012 12:12am Jun 19, 2012 12:12am
Hi TAH,

Here i am posting updated version of the document with new clear fixed chart. I was tried many times and i was failed to zoom the chat and it was again with gap in SSD. Finally i found and enabled Automatic_Zoom to true which one is default false in SonicR Solid Dragon-Trend indicator.

Also i added the original word 2010 docx file for your convenient if you want add your experience into the document. In word 2010 there is option for save it into pdf and it is very useful.

I hope this is useful for new to this thread to quickly read and understand the Sonic R System.
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  • #36,135
  • Edited 12:54am Jun 19, 2012 12:38am | Edited 12:54am
Quoting GuruKrish
Hi TAH,

Here i am posting updated version of the document with new clear fixed chart. I was tried many times and i was failed to zoom the chat and it was again with gap in SSD. Finally i found and enabled Automatic_Zoom to true which one is default false in SonicR Solid Dragon-Trend indicator.

Also i added the original word 2010 docx file for your convenient if you want add your experience into the document. In word 2010 there is option for save it into pdf and it is very useful.

I hope this is useful for new to this thread to quickly read...
GuruKrish, you are almost there. Now turn on the Auto Zoom feature on both the VSA Candles and the VSA Histogram indys also. Then you will have the charts the way they should be for your quality document. Yes, in all three indicators the Auto Zoom feature is set "false" by default and the Manual Zoom feature is set appropriate for the standard MT4 chart zoom setting. The Solid Dragon configuration, VSA Candles widths and VSA Histogram bar widths can be controlled both manually and automatically for different chart zoom settings. All this is explained in the User Notes as to why both are provided and why, under certain conditions, one method may be better than the other. For your document, if you are choosing to show charts zoomed in, then all three indicators need to have the same Manual Zoom settings, or they all need to have the Auto Zoom feature turned on which overrides the Manual Zoom setting.

-tah
  • #36,136
  • Jun 19, 2012 1:14am Jun 19, 2012 1:14am
Quoting traderathome
GuruKrish, you are almost there.
-tah
TAH,

I think this is quite enough for educational purpose and I expect Sonicdeejay will remove the old version and update with this new one.

I want to develop some sort of indi or ea based on page no 26 point 1 to 8. It could be in excel or an indicator or an EA. I can write EA but not very good. You are a good coder. If someone chose to trade in 15M TF. There is an advice and based on higher TF with channel analysis. It should give advice or signal that tells the user what type of Take profit taraget expected. Can you help me with that.
  • #36,137
  • Edited 2:23am Jun 19, 2012 2:00am | Edited 2:23am
Quoting GuruKrish
TAH,

I think this is quite enough for educational purpose and I expect Sonicdeejay will remove the old version and update with this new one.

I want to develop some sort of indi or ea based on page no 26 point 1 to 8. It could be in excel or an indicator or an EA. I can write EA but not very good. You are a good coder. If someone chose to trade in 15M TF. There is an advice and based on higher TF with channel analysis. It should give advice or signal that tells the user what type of Take profit taraget expected. Can you help me with that.
I've never coded an EA. I am still trying to decipher what you are doing on page 26. You've gone back to the Shi Channel indy, which has been discarded for years, and I am finding this section a bit complicated and confusing. Not sure it is a good idea, but it is your project. You've also mentioned a DR2 and DS2 without defining the terms. Again, confusing. And, you have also brought back the QQE and CCI, also discarded years ago. They are lagging indicators that do nothing more than the actual PA does, and they are a distraction.

I think you are starting now to overcomplicate and reintroduce stuff that has been discarded. The key is to focus on PA waves and the Dragon-Trend relative to S&R, primarily during the London session. The Shi Channel, QQE, CCI, etc. ....all these are "old hat" and rightfully discarded a long time ago. They don't make Sonic R. entries more reliable because they do not predict the minds of those that set out daily to move the prices. What they do is distract from those few key things already mentioned that Sonicers need to stay focused on.

The Sonic R. System started out being elegantly simple and effective. As time went on, folks brought in different indicators, offerred them up for use. And some were used for a while. But, Master Sonicdeejay steered the course true, bringing things around again to utter simplicity. And that is the way it needs to remain. The Sonic R. System is not an indicator intensive system! All it needs are the price bars, the Dragon-Trend and a bit of volume and a growing understanding of how the market moves price relative to S&R. More indicators can not give traders that growing understanding. They will simply distract and delay the advent of that understanding.

-tah
  • #36,138
  • Edited 2:52am Jun 19, 2012 2:34am | Edited 2:52am
Quoting traderathome
I've never coded an EA. I am still trying to decipher what you are doing on page 26. You've gone back to the Shi Channel indy, which has been discarded for years, and I am finding this section a bit complicated and confusing. Not sure it is a good idea, but it is your project. You've also mentioned a DR2 and DS2 without defining the terms. Again, confusing. And, you have also brought back the QQE and CCI, also discarded years ago. They are lagging indicators that do nothing more than the actual PA does, and they are a distraction.

I think you...
Leave that QQE or CCI, i think SHI_Channel_MTF is helpful for knowing the trend in higher TF. How do you determine the trend of a Higher TF? Many times i realize once the price reaches nearby channel high or low. Either it will break the channel or brounce back aginst the trend. Do you think using SHI_Channel_MTF not good with Sonic R System. Trade using Daily pivot S&R when the price reaches above or near R2 and below or near S2 and it is common to bounce back to opposite side of the trend. So I mentioned in the document not to trade above or below that level.

Ok i post the original doc on the thread. More than 2 times i have posted it to the thread 2 times you are not saying anything about it. I request you to edit and resubmit to the thread from your point of view.
  • #36,139
  • Jun 19, 2012 3:05am Jun 19, 2012 3:05am
Quoting GuruKrish
Leave that QQE or CCI, i think SHI_Channel_MTF is helpful for knowing the trend in higher TF. How do you determine the trend of a Higher TF? Trade using Daily pivot S&R when the price reaches above or near R2 and below or near S2 and it is common to bounce back to opposite side of the trend. So I mentioned in the document not to trade above or below that level.

Ok i post the original doc on the thread. More than 2 times i have posted it to the thread 2 times you are not saying anything about it. I request you to edit and resubmit to the thread...
GuruKrish, off and on I have mentioned my desire to do a .pdf because apparently folks don't understand how simple this really is as I have laid out repeatedly in my Sonic R. System Manuals (Brief Form) that I have periodically posted, and which Master Sonicdeejay continues to link in Post #1. I really don't think more is needed. But I have thought that if it was presented as a ".pdf" maybe by some unexplainable miracle, folks would absorb it.

If I were to go thru your document, by the time I finished, much would be removed. I might try to re-explain the Sonic R. Facts of Life differently here and there than I have before, and I might include a few examples using the most recent TAH chart template (white). But I'd keep the document as simple as the Sonic R. System Manuals that have been posted. I might devote more time to descriptions of the indicators I have provided, and how important it is for users to read the User Notes, seeing as how some use them for quite some time not even knowing how they work because they haven't bothered to follow instructions....

....and this gets me to the point, GuruKrish. No matter how much a person labors to make things good, and to make things clear, there are those that simply gloss over it all, unattentive, and then come later with the same old stupid series of questions because they were to lazy to do their reading homework.

So, actually I think my Sonic R. Summary Manual Post, linked in Post #1, is more than adequate. And I don't think putting the information into a .pdf is going to change anything because some folks ask for the world, but are too lazy to even read the slightest little bit. All the information needed on the TAH indys is provided, but some folks don't know how to use them correctly because they haven't read. All the informaion on the Sonic R. System is provided, but some folks just haven't read it.

If somebody asks about the indicators, they should read what has already been written about them. And it is all linked in Post #1.

If somebody asks about the Sonic R. System, they should read the Sonic R. Summary Manual provided. And it is linked in Post #1.

-traderathome
  • #36,140
  • Jun 19, 2012 4:05am Jun 19, 2012 4:05am
Quoting GuruKrish
Leave that QQE or CCI, i think SHI_Channel_MTF is helpful for knowing the trend in higher TF. How do you determine the trend of a Higher TF? Many times i realize once the price reaches nearby channel high or low. Either it will break the channel or brounce back aginst the trend.
i interested, if you have idea how to use it, please post chart trade, that will be more interesting for us to study the trend.
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