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  • #37,601
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:23pm Jun 17, 2012 1:23pm
Quoting dimisporos
Diamantopoulou from Pasok just stated that they will not form goverment with ND without Syriza also.LOL Happy Greece!!!
In your outlook what does Greece want, stay or go?
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  • #37,602
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:26pm Jun 17, 2012 1:26pm
Quoting Luis Carlos
In your outlook what does Greece want, stay or go?
Stay m8 but change the monumentary policy rules.Noone wants togo away from europe and euro but we canot keep on with this policy from eu.
  • #37,603
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:29pm Jun 17, 2012 1:29pm
Quoting dimisporos
Stay m8 but change the monumentary policy rules.Noone wants togo away from europe and euro but we canot keep on with this policy from eu.
I think is the best for you. Return to the dragma should be go back and fight with a huge inflation...
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  • #37,604
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:29pm Jun 17, 2012 1:29pm
Breaking News: Greece's New Democracy seen getting 29.5 percent of vote, Syriza at 27.1 percent: Interior Ministry projection
  • #37,605
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:43pm Jun 17, 2012 1:43pm
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Quoting dimisporos
Diamantopoulou from Pasok just stated that they will not form goverment with ND without Syriza also.LOL Happy Greece!!!
Ok this means new democracy will not make government. I wrote at friday about this scenario. They are playing this new elections card. Greece has not broken contract yet and EU is bonded to release next 170B package.

They are plating time and all europe will suffer. Now it is up to the EU - how long they are about play along... They can make a inspection and if austerity measures are not fulfilled they can refuse to pay. As long as there is no government, no savings are made.
  • #37,606
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:43pm Jun 17, 2012 1:43pm
Quoting dimisporos
Stay m8 but change the monumentary policy rules.Noone wants togo away from europe and euro but we canot keep on with this policy from eu.
Nice to read from a Greek in FF.

Well IMO Greek people will get better bang for the buck in focusing in the root of the problems (their own internal problems economic and especially political) more than the impact of the consequences of economic (mis)management (EU policies).

Sure the bastards from the EU are demanding horrible and hard measures for the Greek people but how can they don't do otherwise (from their perspective)...you don't just lend hundred of billions just to be drain every eight months by politicians making a circus of Greece and mismanaging "almost" everything they touch.

Democracy was born in Greece. Half of western civilization, philosophy and culture come from Greece ...you deserve much better than the bunch of idiots that are managing your country...

Sincerely I hope Greece can pass this crisis and go back where it belongs...

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  • #37,607
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:45pm Jun 17, 2012 1:45pm
Quoting AFXFin
Ok this means new democracy will not make government. I wrote at friday about this scenario. They are playing this new elections card. Greece has not broken contract yet and EU is bonded to release next 170B package.

They are plating time and all europe will suffer. Now it is up to the EU - how long they are about play along... They can make a inspection and if austerity measures are not fulfilled they can refuse to pay. As long as there is no government, no savings are made.

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    Based on that official projection, New Democracy could theoretically form a new government with Pasok alone, having 161 of the 300 seats in parliament between them.

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  1. 1943:

    "But there is no way out of the reforms," Mr Westerwelle added. "Greece must stick to what has been agreed. If we said to Greece, no matter what we agreed, it doesn't matter anymore, then we would get a problem with all the other European countries that are diligently and persistently implementing their reforms."
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    German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle Westerwelle has signalled Greece may get small concessions from the eurozone but nothing like a full renegotiation of its bailout terms. "There can't be substantial changes to the agreements but I can imagine that we would talk about the time axes once again," he is quoted by Reuters as saying on German TV.
  3. 1940:

    Based on that official projection, New Democracy could theoretically form a new government with Pasok alone, having 161 of the 300 seats in parliament between them.

  • #37,608
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:48pm Jun 17, 2012 1:48pm
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  • #37,609
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:49pm Jun 17, 2012 1:49pm
Quoting sisse
Nice to read from a Greek in FF.

Well IMO Greek people will get better bang for the buck in focusing in the root of the problems (their own internal problems economic and especially political) more than the impact of the consequences of economic mismanagement (EU policies).

Sure the bastards from the EU are demanding horrible and hard measures for the Greek people but how can they don't do otherwise (from their perspective)...you don't just lend hundred of billions just to be drain every eight months by politicians making a circus of Greece...
Nice post m8.Just 1 little think so you understand more whats going on here.1 Little example is that eu cut to us salarys and pensions to -40% last year to save 3 billion per year when the budget for greece for military equipment is 4 billlion per year and they havent changed it at all.Why?to help?Maby the Germans and the French got more answers for the nice Submarines and Tanks we buy every year for no reaason!!
  • #37,610
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:51pm Jun 17, 2012 1:51pm
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  • #37,611
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:59pm Jun 17, 2012 1:59pm
Quoting dimisporos
Nice post m8.Just 1 little think so you understand more whats going on here.1 Little example is that eu cut to us salarys and pensions to -40% last year to save 3 billion per year when the budget for greece for military equipment is 4 billlion per year and they havent changed it at all.Why?to help?Maby the Germans and the French got more answers for the nice Submarines and Tanks we buy every year for no reaason!!
I hear you mate. I know there are lot of private (and public in some cases) interest ($$$) behind the table that they don't give a damn about the euro, Greece or anybody and they lobby to "protect"their markets and make a quick buck on anything that moves despite the economic or social consequences ... Arms and Defense is the textbook case in any conflict (and with Greece right now)....

But again IMO, the root is in the internal causes first. Have a serious democratic government and decide to cut the defense budget to half (Greece has one the highest defense expenditure as GDP in the world and nobody is going to attack Greece in the next few generations) and invest that in education and health or public investment and you screw the German and the French business with rational actions ... my point is, is time to start cleaning the house inside before trying to clean the neighbor's.

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  • #37,612
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:05pm Jun 17, 2012 2:05pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/greek...results-2012-6
  • #37,613
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:16pm Jun 17, 2012 2:16pm
Price is 1.27013 right now
  • #37,614
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:21pm Jun 17, 2012 2:21pm
PT price spike to 1.2740 giving me 60 green pips on my long from friday and trigerring my first sell order which is 16 pips green.PT this is ur idea again,though i am making money but all congratulations goes to u
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  • #37,615
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:25pm Jun 17, 2012 2:25pm
Quoting drzakir123
PT price spike to 1.2740 giving me 60 green pips and trigerring my first sell order which is 16 pips green
Where did u get such price action before market opens?
  • #37,616
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:26pm Jun 17, 2012 2:26pm
Quoting PeepPeep
Where did u get such price action before market opens?
oanda,sweet oanda
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  • #37,617
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:27pm Jun 17, 2012 2:27pm
Quoting PeepPeep
Where did u get such price action before market opens?
it's already open in oanda
http://www.oanda.com/currency/real-time-rates
  • #37,618
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:28pm Jun 17, 2012 2:28pm
FXCM is open.

Edit: No its not.
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  • #37,619
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:30pm Jun 17, 2012 2:30pm
Quoting drzakir123
PT price spike to 1.2740 giving me 60 green pips on my long from friday and trigerring my first sell order which is 16 pips green.PT this is ur idea again,though i am making money but all congratulations goes to u
If your broker is not Oanda, you probably not have been triggered. Right now Oanda showing 1.26981 with a 7 pip spread.
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  • #37,620
  • Jun 17, 2012 2:30pm Jun 17, 2012 2:30pm
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Quoting drzakir123
oanda,sweet oanda
Estimate was to 1.28 if New Democracy wins and back to 1.25 to the end of the week due lack of government and spain. Maybe even lower if they cannot form it till thursday morning.
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