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  • #35,061
  • May 17, 2012 9:31am May 17, 2012 9:31am
Quoting andyvxr
You say that every time to me, look back this morning chart was posted ! With Target, Stop Loss etc on
Andy, re-read my post (added stuff to it). The point is, when you add to a trade/ open another trade, you need to update the first pic. or post a new pic. of the new trade.....EP, SL, TP(s), the whole shebang, Andy! Otherwise, the post is not instructional, not educational. And this thread is the manual for the Sonic R. System, not a trading log for individuals. As I stated, you were progressing just fine, so please don't revert now! If you add to existing trade, such that one chart showing both is fine, then link back to that initial trade post when you post the addition. Don't just start a new post, contain the link backwards for continuity, please!

Sonicers, this is not just for Andy, it is for everyone. Please get into the spirit of things by keeping in mind that this thread is a Manual for the Sonic R. System. Every post of a trade should be with a pic. that is crystal clear and showing all the important specs! Make every post count as an asset to this Sonic R. System Manual. Please!

Sonicers, let us all honor what Master Sonicdeejay started and what he continues to support, out of "...sharing is caring." Let us make every post an asset to the thread.

-tah
  • #35,062
  • May 17, 2012 9:32am May 17, 2012 9:32am
TAH.

Post number 35040 @ 9.09 am london time 6hr ago
page 2336


Quoting andyvxr
You say that every time to me, look back this morning chart was posted !

With Target, Stop Loss etc on
  • #35,063
  • May 17, 2012 9:38am May 17, 2012 9:38am
Righty, new chart attached.

I have highlighted weak bars.

It seems, SM are in these upbars selling, high volume suggests this and closing in the middle or low also suggests this.

Looks like they just used the news, just now to pump up to sell more.
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  • #35,064
  • May 17, 2012 9:45am May 17, 2012 9:45am
Quoting traderathome
Master Sonicdeejay might want to answer this question too. Meanwhile, I volunteer my answer.

The Dragon doesn't "work" as you put it. It is there as a part of what you use to determine your entry level (actual PA is the other part you use). The ANGLE of the Dragon is important. If it is flat, more risk. But if it is angled up, it indicates better momentum and less risk. Read the latest Sonic R. System Summary, and don't complicate things for yourself.

-tah
Work was the wrong word. I remember Raghee saying that she and another trader spent hours upon hours going through different EMAs to see what was best for her plan. I never did understand why she picked the EMA34, but since she did, she has not strayed from that moving average. I'll reread the summary info again. Despite there being only two possible outcomes in a trade, it's very easy for me to complicate things.
  • #35,065
  • May 17, 2012 9:46am May 17, 2012 9:46am
my imagination
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  • #35,066
  • May 17, 2012 9:51am May 17, 2012 9:51am
Quoting andyvxr
Shorting Euro, SL - 100. Target and Entry on Chart. SM - Seem to be Shorting in the background
Quoting andyvxr
Revised Price Target. Chart Attached
Quoting andyvxr
Added to my euro short from earlier, loads of lovely selling in this bar by the SM, lovely high volume, bring on 1.2618 baby !!
Quoting andyvxr
...new chart attached. I have highlighted weak bars. It seems, SM are in these upbars selling, high volume suggests this and closing in the middle or low also suggests this. Looks like they just used the news, just now to pump up to sell more.
Andy, thank you very much for updating your trade with this new pic. See how much more instructional and educational your postings of your on-going trade, and addtions to it, have become for the rest of us? Nice. Again, thank you, Andy. And note the usefulness of providing the links back to previous posts, which really helps readers studying the trade.

-tah
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  • #35,067
  • May 17, 2012 9:53am May 17, 2012 9:53am
Quoting Slider20
Work was the wrong word. I remember Raghee saying that she and another trader spent hours upon hours going through different EMAs to see what was best for her plan. I never did understand why she picked the EMA34, but since she did, she has not strayed from that moving average. I'll reread the summary info again. Despite there being only two possible outcomes in a trade, it's very easy for me to complicate things.
For sure, the fact that a trade can go either way is more than enough complication for anyone of us!
  • #35,068
  • May 17, 2012 9:55am May 17, 2012 9:55am
Quoting alkenany
my imagination
Great post, Alkenany! Probably the best post on the thread! Brief, concise and to the point!
LMAO....!

-tah
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  • #35,069
  • May 17, 2012 9:55am May 17, 2012 9:55am
Many thankyous TAH


Quoting traderathome
Andy, thank you very much for updating your trade with this new pic. See how much more instructional and educational your postings of your on-going trade, and addtions to it, have become for the rest of us? Nice. Again, thank you, Andy. And note the usefulness of providing the links back to previous posts, which really helps readers studying the trade.

-tah
  • #35,070
  • May 17, 2012 10:06am May 17, 2012 10:06am
GU and Market Comment:

This has had a very good run down (refer to your H4 chart), and might now be getting ready for a retrace move upwards. In the attached pic. you can clearly see the volume has been increasing as the price has be dropping today. And, the heaviest trading is clearly associated with candles striking the lows.

Sonicers, this might be a good one to stalk for a M15 SonicR long setup, later today or tomorrow. Also, please keep in mind this could make a "double bottom" before the market commits to a retrace move upwards.

-tah
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  • #35,071
  • May 17, 2012 10:12am May 17, 2012 10:12am
Quoting traderathome
Great post, Alkenany! Probably the best post on the thread! Brief, concise and to the point!
LMAO....!

-tah
thnx tah
took long 2715
no change either SL or TP
it is risky , countertrend trade
it is 55 pips donation to the bears
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  • #35,072
  • May 17, 2012 10:16am May 17, 2012 10:16am
Thanks for the donation lol

Quoting alkenany
thnx tah
took long 2715
no change either SL or TP
it is risky , countertrend trade
it is 55 pips donation to the bears
  • #35,073
  • Edited 10:40am May 17, 2012 10:19am | Edited 10:40am
Quoting alkenany
took long 2715...no change either SL or TP...it is risky, countertrend trade...it is 55 pips donation to the bears
Alkaneny, I see you have a separate indicator displaying the 5-digit bid price in the upper right of your chart. Displaying 5-digit is built into the Control Panel,...not sure if you are aware of this (see my pic.).

Also, if you just want blue/red candles displayed, by changing in the VSA Candles indicator the candle bodies of normal candles, and of climax bull candles, to the blue and red colors already used, you can have a chart where your candles will not override the Contol Panel or the FFCAL Panel (see my 2nd and 3rd pics.). The 2nd pic. leaves the wicks gray. The 3rd pic. also changes the wicks to blue/red.
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  • #35,074
  • May 17, 2012 10:39am May 17, 2012 10:39am
Quoting traderathome
Alkaneny, I see you have a separate indicator displaying the 5-digit bid price in the upper right of your chart. Displaying 5-digit is built into the Control Panel,...not sure if you are aware of this (see my pic.).

Also, if you just want blue/red candles displayed, by changing in the VSA Candles indicator the candle bodies of normal candles, and of climax bull candles, to the blue and red colors already used, you can have a chart where your candles will not override the Contol Panel or the FFCAL Panel (see my 2nd and 3rd pics.)
yes tah
thank u , but i need the price on upper rite side
  • #35,075
  • Edited 11:19am May 17, 2012 11:07am | Edited 11:19am
Market Comment:

This is a comment about the bias of the market, in general. And it is a speculative comment.

Yesterday, the market made repeated pro-Usd price thrusts. Today before, during and after the USD high impact releases, these thrust continued, but in the context of overall anti-USD movement; meaning that after two days of USD high impact releases while PA has been in a pro-USD trend, the price has pretty much gone nowhere! These are signs that the market has reversed from pro-USD sentiment to anti-USD sentiment, but is stabbing prices in the pro-USD direction to build anti-USD positions ahead of any pronounced anti-USD moves.

Currently, there is a lot of up/dn action, with price seemingly to go nowhere, or only gradually drift in the anti-USD direction. There are exceptions: GU moved strongly pro-USD today and has not yet rebounded, and UCad is still drifting in the pro-USD direction. But, overall, it looks like the market bias is now reversing to anti-USD again. And any PA exceptions might just be deceptions; the market still lusting after anti-USD positions and trying to sucker in "wrong side" traders to give the market that extra liquidity it needs to build anti-USD positions.

Keep in mind that this is speculative, and based on the volume-price action over the past two days. Remember also that the market is a lying, deceiving sonofabitch, and just because the market repeatedly spikes price in a certain direction does not mean the market is biased towards continuing that direction!

-tah
  • #35,076
  • May 17, 2012 11:37am May 17, 2012 11:37am
Quoting traderathome
Market Comment:

This is a comment about the bias of the market, in general. And it is a speculative comment.

Yesterday, the market made repeated pro-Usd price thrusts. Today before, during and after the USD high impact releases, these thrust continued, but in the context of overall anti-USD movement; meaning that after two days of USD high impact releases while PA has been in a pro-USD trend, the price has pretty much gone nowhere! These are signs that the market has reversed from pro-USD sentiment to anti-USD sentiment, but is stabbing...
I can't tell you how educational these market analyses are that you post. These are the nuancess that are very difficult for me to grasp, as they aren't straightforward indicators on a chart. It is immensely appreciated.
  • #35,077
  • May 17, 2012 12:21pm May 17, 2012 12:21pm
UChf:

Entered short (EP= 0.9436).
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  • #35,078
  • May 17, 2012 1:42pm May 17, 2012 1:42pm
MY way for all SonicR's...
Hello folks,want to say first thanks to all SonicR system contributors in special to MASTERSonik and TRADERATHOME wiich put effort to write,answer,and teach us trhu theirs post,thanks u guys for this.
AS all newbis that evrybody was(I am stiill one) I have serching for diferrent system(and perfect indicator too "tipical for noob") till the time I had found this thread on FF and start reading MASter favorit book A.ELDER "Traiding for a LIVING" +10 book recomand for each newby tor read it.
Now I want to show with u the way I found to trade and see this system.
Money management rule:rule that i found ok for me is simple trade that LOT SISE=-1000 pips loss for 10% of account balance.So if for exm u have 10.000$ account u can according to the rule above u can trade 0.1 lots.I now it look like to conservative but u will not over trade u account thsi is one and second keep in mind that u can work on multiple instrument (me 8 pairs to diversify risk and and) so u will get enough $$$ and % gain only with 0.1 lots.
Entry SETUP: tipycal SONICR setup for entry
SL:......?still searching for techniqua taht fit me....(but right now copy the TAH and use mental SL)
Exit point:i now this can be even harder than setting SL(if u have a litle disccipline to set it each time),I was no seen consistensy from my trades becouse of exits,and i guess a lot off people have the same problem,SO exit now?let the trade run?set fixed TP 50 pips?....blablabla...
No the answer that i found and work for me is Fibonaci Expansions with 5 levels we use 5 levels: 61.8, 100.0, 110.0, 161.8, 261.8.
Note that FE 100.0 and 110.0 levels act as S&R levels.offen
Find the beginning and the end of a wave, then the end of the corresponding corrective wave. If the market continues its trend those 5 levels are crucial and show where it may stop. You may consider placing new orders around 61.8, 100.0 or 110.0. The 61.8 and 100.0 are also good points for setting your order take profits depending on the way you feel about the market
Study this link for more detail and real exem:http://www.fxoo.org/DispatcherServle...gTheory?page=3
My entry:
1)when i see a wave#2 formating for sonikR setup I am expected it to retreat to 61.1 fibo retracement
2)draw FE from leg #1 swing H/L to #2 H/L
3)place a sell/buy oreder slighly below FE 61.1(I use Price minus spread)but the best setup occure for me when price not only penetrate 61.1 but also close below it(some time u will see how price will penetrate but close above 61.1 and then reverse or retreat for onother wave)
4)set my TP at FE 161.1
One more thing: after triple screen of dr.Elder I found the way that helps me to handlehandle multiple time frame issue I call it "4 screen view"(actualy 5 screen + weekly chart) see pic below i found it so easy and usefull for making better decision with this 4 screen(15;1;4;daily time frame)
Now glad that u read this and hope u will improve u tradind with this aproach
Tahnks to evrybody and SHaring is truly Caring
Will be glad to answer to u Q.
Some Pics ast professor say no pic no post
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  • #35,079
  • May 17, 2012 2:46pm May 17, 2012 2:46pm
Quoting traderathome
UChf:

Entered short (EP= 0.9436).
got stopped out -30 pips
  • #35,080
  • May 17, 2012 3:20pm May 17, 2012 3:20pm
Quoting traderathome
Yep. My guess is the power players in the market knew it for two days already, and that is why prices have repeatedly been stabbed in the pro-USD direction for two days. The market has been taking cheap shots, building anti-USD positions, just for this moment.

I anticipated anti-USD moves starting yesterday, but the market confounded the effort with their continual pro-USD head fakes. And that encouraged me, telling me it was only a matter of time. .

Sonicers, the market is a lying, deceiving sonofabitch. Never forget that.
Agreed with all, good post
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