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  • #12,681
  • May 16, 2012 9:12am May 16, 2012 9:12am
Quoting futurespeter
Really honest, I appreciate this.

@tehnobyte

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...96#post5594496

You did try to develop a non-repainted matrix version some time before, is your development still finished and are the results good?
I wouldn't be interested in a non repainting version of the sentiment/emotion, someone made one on here (somewhere) and the signal is so late its not worth having. They are the only things on my chart that repaint badly so thats why I ignore them. The extreme no longer repaints and I have the non repainting version of the trendline to be sure its closed that colour before I go in.
  • #12,682
  • May 16, 2012 9:17am May 16, 2012 9:17am
Quoting ohammond
They go from the start of the day to where price is now so as its the H1 I posted they are not very long.
No I mean the 4 short ATR lines on your chart. Mine show as 4 long lines that get mixed up with my pivot lines.
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  • #12,683
  • May 16, 2012 9:19am May 16, 2012 9:19am
Quoting itsallover
No I mean the 4 short ATR lines on your chart. Mine show as 4 long lines that get mixed up with my pivot lines.
Thats what they look like on my chart if I'm on the M5. The picture I posted was on H1.
  • #12,684
  • May 16, 2012 9:23am May 16, 2012 9:23am
Quoting ohammond
Thats what they look like on my chart if I'm on the M5. The picture I posted was on H1.
LOL I'm not really this dumb!!!!


Well not always.


...... haven't had my lunch ... thats why....
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  • #12,685
  • May 16, 2012 9:26am May 16, 2012 9:26am
Quoting itsallover
LOL I'm not really this dumb!!!!


Well not always.


...... haven't had my lunch ... thats why....
Low blood sugar then obviously
  • #12,686
  • May 16, 2012 9:27am May 16, 2012 9:27am
Quoting ohammond
Low blood sugar then obviously
yah!!!!
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  • #12,687
  • May 16, 2012 9:48am May 16, 2012 9:48am
Quoting ohammond
Reasons for me not shorting EJ on the re-entry and to be looking for buys. Price had tried and failed to close below the low printed earlier on, the first ATR line had been reached and more importantly bullish divergence.
Hi Olivia

what period are you using for the ATR?
could you please share the indie?

thanks a lot for your usual very informative explanations
  • #12,688
  • May 16, 2012 9:51am May 16, 2012 9:51am
Quoting itsallover
Olivia,
How do you get your ATR lines so short? Mine extend right across the page.
Mine are also longer....
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  • #12,689
  • May 16, 2012 9:52am May 16, 2012 9:52am
Quoting munirpt
Hi Olivia

what period are you using for the ATR?
could you please share the indie?

thanks a lot for your usual very informative explanations
It doesn't have a period in it to choose just comes as it is. Under inputs change the colours to something you can see if you have a black chart. I only have the ex4.
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  • #12,690
  • May 16, 2012 9:54am May 16, 2012 9:54am
Chaps and chapesses...

I'm studying harder than ever and looking at data as much as I can in order to minimise not only my losses but also to get my entries correct.

I've found today, that despite having multiple currencies open, I didn't take on any trades, save one that I exited out at 2 pips (the AU gave a 5 min signal at 15:00 that eventually broke through the pivot but as it was overbought massively on all timeframes bar the 4 hour, I exited.)

I haven't given a screenshot because I want to focus on the following example to sort my logic a little!

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5834/possiblek.jpg[/url]

I've seen people talking about fresh signals, I understand that concept just fine. A blatant change of colour after a long previous colour. The AU was a perfect example of that today.

However, if your going by the logic that you shouldn't buy when the market is oversold/bought then would this signal circled on the above picture be discarded?

It would be the only reason why I wouldn't take this trade as the 60 MA is on the correct side for a buy trade, there is no clear sign of resistance to the upside except the pivot point which is far away enough to not be an immediate issue but more of a possible exit/take profit area.

I find myself (and this isn't necessarily a bad thing of course) constantly out of pretty much every signal at the moment and its the stoch that is preventing me from entering into any trades.

Again I am not complaining about this, its not losing me pips but I am just concerned that I may not be using it efficiently!

Hope I'm not wasting your time guys, sorry if I am!

Mr P
  • #12,691
  • May 16, 2012 10:02am May 16, 2012 10:02am
Quoting Mr Pippy
Chaps and chapesses...

I'm studying harder than ever and looking at data as much as I can in order to minimise not only my losses but also to get my entries correct.

I've found today, that despite having multiple currencies open, I didn't take on any trades, save one that I exited out at 2 pips (the AU gave a 5 min signal at 15:00 that eventually broke through the pivot but as it was overbought massively on all timeframes bar the 4 hour, I exited.)

I haven't given a screenshot because I want to focus on the following example to sort my logic...
What trendline setting do you have on your chart, only its way later than the one on mine.
  • #12,692
  • Edited 10:33am May 16, 2012 10:12am | Edited 10:33am
Quoting ohammond
What trendline setting do you have on your chart, only its way later than the one on mine.
Hiya,

Trendline CCI Period = 50

Trendline ATR Period = 5

Settings from post one I believe

Mr P


Is this correct ohammond?
  • #12,693
  • Edited 10:59am May 16, 2012 10:48am | Edited 10:59am
Quoting Mr Pippy
Hiya,

Trendline CCI Period = 50

Trendline ATR Period = 5

Settings from post one I believe

Mr P


Is this correct ohammond?
ohammond uses CCI 20 ATR 5
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  • #12,694
  • May 16, 2012 1:43pm May 16, 2012 1:43pm
Quoting Mr Pippy
Symphonie is saying short on eur/usd...stoch is massively oversold....so many times today I've wanted to pull the trigger on various trades only to see the stoch telling me otherwise.

Patience I guess!

Mr P
Yep, patience but don't forget stochs can stay oversold for a long period !
See yesterday on E/U, oversold from US Open to London Open (a 115 pips run).
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  • #12,695
  • May 16, 2012 2:07pm May 16, 2012 2:07pm
My friend now you have 2 gap's for close


Quoting Evaluator
To say the least this has not been the cleanest of markt moves. As a matter of fact this last markt move has been very messy and one sided which i think can be contributed to the disaster in Europe that is Greece. That being said.....There is a full 5 wave down move that one can easily count the moves ending in a almost flat at the Sunday's small gap down. This, I believe is the completion of wave 3 so now I look to a corrective wave 4 (which I was hoping for all last week) that will close the gap down open from Sunday a week ago. I look for this...
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  • #12,696
  • May 16, 2012 2:08pm May 16, 2012 2:08pm
Quoting Mr Pippy
Hiya,

Trendline CCI Period = 50

Trendline ATR Period = 5

Settings from post one I believe

Mr P


Is this correct ohammond?
Sorry, had to go out, itsallover is correct, both RJ and I use 20,5 on all timeframes, but you have to use what you feel suits you best. I just find very often the signal is much too late for me with a higher setting.
  • #12,697
  • May 16, 2012 2:39pm May 16, 2012 2:39pm
today you win, tomorrow you lose...
welcome to the world of trading currencies


Quoting ohammond
Its not worth hoping it will turn around, you should have an angry face for NOT going into the buy.

I have tried all different settings on H1 and 20,5 for the trendline is by far the best one to have. Then just put a couple of filters on there like not trading INTO the 50ema unless you are happy with that amount of pips and taking notice atr and you will have FAR more winners than losers.
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  • #12,698
  • May 16, 2012 2:58pm May 16, 2012 2:58pm
Quoting mike2k
today you win, tomorrow you lose...
welcome to the world of trading currencies
You're sounding very bitter, I haven't had a losing day for months so not sure why that was directed at me?
  • #12,699
  • May 16, 2012 3:33pm May 16, 2012 3:33pm
Quoting ohammond
It doesn't have a period in it to choose just comes as it is. Under inputs change the colours to something you can see if you have a black chart. I only have the ex4.
Thanks
  • #12,700
  • May 16, 2012 5:33pm May 16, 2012 5:33pm
Quoting Dyekid217
yes all taken on the 1hr.. I use 4hr and daily for direction
Thanks Mate.
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