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  • #34,901
  • May 15, 2012 10:09am May 15, 2012 10:09am
DS2 continues to hold...volumes also dropped..no more trades tonite
MM
  • #34,902
  • May 15, 2012 12:19pm May 15, 2012 12:19pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

Entered short (EP= 0.9974). A bigger retrace is possible, maybe 50%, 61.8%, etc. Taking a chance on it (well, every trade is a chance).
AU:

TP reached for 48 pips gain EP= 0.9974 to TP= 0.9926.
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  • #34,903
  • May 15, 2012 1:15pm May 15, 2012 1:15pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

TP reached for 48 pips gain EP= 0.9974 to TP= 0.9926.
Nice trade! I took that one as well for 38 pips.
  • #34,904
  • May 15, 2012 5:42pm May 15, 2012 5:42pm
Quoting traderathome
No, I do not. And you do not seem inclined to be forthcoming with the information. For all I know, you are overtrading your account, making size too big. And therefore, you set very low SLs because if the trade moves against you much more, then maybe you blow too big a portion of your account. So in other words, while you stretch to criticize me, you yourself might be subject to valid criticism, were the truth known.

But I don't constantly dig at you, like you do at me, do I jasakreatif? No, I only respond to some of the things you say about me....
i constanly dig at you because i constanly learn how you trade, everyday you posts and everyweek you closed with profits
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  • #34,905
  • May 15, 2012 7:03pm May 15, 2012 7:03pm
I got a pain in my back head, besides the ear, last a few days already ... Don't know why..
  • #34,906
  • May 15, 2012 7:47pm May 15, 2012 7:47pm
Great thread, thanks!

Quoting traderathome
Yes, it is possible you might have blown an account. I doubt few people enter the forex market without doing so, multiple times even, without ever even seeing the Sonic R. System thread.

But, if you cannot withstand being down 50-100 pips, based on a hard SL that gives your trade that much breathing room, then you are saying that your SLs are tighter. And tighter SLs are more frequently hit, kicking the trader out of the trade, and with that loss. It doesn't take too many 20 pips SLs hit to lose 60 pips worth of account value, instead of...
Quoting andyvxr
Seen as we are all firing questions at the master TAH, i have one.

What is your exit strategy if you have entered a trade that has gone wrong ?

I know Sonic says an exit is if the PA hits the dragon band, just wondering what your thoughts are on that

Many thanks
@tah
When do you realize your loss if the market is not going in “your” anticipated direction?

For example this trade, but the question is generally mentioned:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...43#post5564743



http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...67#post5575367


A lucky trade and I am happy for you.

Thanks.

fpk
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  • #34,907
  • May 15, 2012 7:48pm May 15, 2012 7:48pm
Quoting jasakreatif
i constanly dig at you because i constanly learn how you trade, everyday you posts and everyweek you closed with profits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxxtnXLJNps
So, you are saying that you will dig at every person that posts real-time trades every day (but I don't do that every day) and manages a profit every week (I don't qualify here, either).
1. I don't qualify, so you can stop the nonsense you direct at me.
2. Why would you even bother digging at such a person? Envy? Jealously? You are making money; 3 out of 10 profitable with more profits than losses. Isn't that enough for you? Do you have to try and undermine others to be happiest?

-tah
  • #34,908
  • May 15, 2012 8:09pm May 15, 2012 8:09pm
Quoting traderathome
So, you are saying that you will dig at every person that posts real-time trades every day (but I don't do that every day) and manages a profit every week (I don't qualify here, either).
1. I don't qualify, so you can stop the nonsense you direct at me.
2. Why would you even bother digging at such a person? Envy? Jealously? You are making money; 3 out of 10 profitable with more profits than losses. Isn't that enough for you? Do you have to try and undermine others to be happiest?

-tah
na na..na.. my english is not good, i copied a "dig" word from your post, yes i'm jealously so i see and learn detailed how trader got profit, every person that post realtime trade, i should do this, if i dont so what for i'm in to this thread, i dont want to be a cheerleaders , i 'm in because i interested .. and i see a Cool Stuff in this thread.
  • #34,909
  • May 15, 2012 8:16pm May 15, 2012 8:16pm
Quoting futurespeter
Great thread, thanks! @tah...When do you realize your loss if the market is not going in “your” anticipated direction? Thanks. fpk
Early on I adopted a strategy based on "What goes up, comes down. And what goes down, comes up." I'd simply hold until the trade came good, or at least most of the the time I would hold. In the end, every trade came good, except those I gave up on too early. In that sense, it was an exceptionally profitable strategy. In the sense of the time value of money, it was not. And it was a strategy that became too complex once NFA got themselves into the act.

I am in a state of transition from that extreme to.....well, I'm not sure yet to what. The Sonic R. System recommendation is to set a wide SL, but not more than 100 pips wide. Most of the time that should be enough, if the trade is with the trend and wisely entered. I don't mind being even a bit more liberal than that, if I am with the trend. So the most important aspect of deciding to close a trade at a loss is in deciding if the trend has reversed. And if it has reversed, should the trade be closed immediately, or would a likely pullback in the reversed trend be worth waiting for to close the trade?

Being in a state of transition, predicated on experiences and learnings here, I cannot but advise per the Sonic R. System rules and recommendations, and to add that this is a part of money management that everyone faces,....successfully or otherwise,....and must make their own choices.

-tah
  • #34,910
  • May 15, 2012 8:25pm May 15, 2012 8:25pm
Quoting jasakreatif
na na..na.. my english is not good, i copied a "dig" word from your post, yes i'm jealously so i see and learn detailed how trader got profit, every person that post realtime trade, i should do this, if i dont so what for i'm in to this thread, i dont want to be a cheerleaders , i 'm in because i interested .. and i see a Cool Stuff in this thread.
Then this is mostly language barrier misunderstandings, jasakreatif, and so I apologize to you for my harshness towards your comments. Your personal trading is profitable. Please keep posting Sonic R. trades, well labeled of course, because they can be excellent additions to this ongoing Sonic R. System Manual.

-tah
  • #34,911
  • May 15, 2012 8:59pm May 15, 2012 8:59pm
EU:

This is the M5 Dragon-Trend on M15. I am stalking a pre-LO counter-trend SonicR long setup. This is a very preliminary depiction of a PA wave off a possible double bottom. PA could continue down, however with the run yesterday some pullback is likely.
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  • #34,912
  • May 15, 2012 9:00pm May 15, 2012 9:00pm
Quoting traderathome
Then this is mostly language barrier misunderstandings, jasakreatif, and so I apologize to you for my harshness towards your comments. Your personal trading is profitable. Please keep posting Sonic R. trades, well labeled of course, because they can be excellent additions to this ongoing Sonic R. System Manual.

-tah
clearly..
  • #34,913
  • May 15, 2012 9:11pm May 15, 2012 9:11pm
Quoting jasakreatif
na na..na.. my english is not good, i copied a "dig" word from your post, yes i'm jealously so i see and learn detailed how trader got profit, every person that post realtime trade, i should do this, if i dont so what for i'm in to this thread, i dont want to be a cheerleaders , i 'm in because i interested .. and i see a Cool Stuff in this thread.
Your English is funny, mate
  • #34,914
  • May 15, 2012 9:22pm May 15, 2012 9:22pm
Quoting traderathome
EU:

This is the M5 Dragon-Trend on M15. I am stalking a pre-LO counter-trend SonicR long setup. This is a very preliminary depiction of a PA wave off a possible double bottom. PA could continue down, however with the run yesterday some pullback is likely.
EU:

Sonicers, this sudden liquidity creation drive down to build a long position just messed up the PA waveform depicted for a possible SonicR long setup. Nevertheless, it is significant in that speaks volumes about bullish intent by the market, imho. So, stalking for a long breakout is still viable.

-tah
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  • #34,915
  • May 15, 2012 9:34pm May 15, 2012 9:34pm
this is confusing me. Wanna sell but it's too oversold. Wanna buy but the bear pressure is still strong. Better wait until news released.
But in my opinion: "Long @1.2700"

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  • #34,916
  • May 15, 2012 10:28pm May 15, 2012 10:28pm
EU:

Entered M1 SonicR long (EP= 1.2716).
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  • #34,917
  • May 15, 2012 10:31pm May 15, 2012 10:31pm
Quoting duyk20
Your English is funny, mate
thanks mate , i'm from Mars , so your favor is Twilight
  • #34,918
  • May 15, 2012 11:13pm May 15, 2012 11:13pm
TA..is this a valid setup for short.. I knw u favor a long

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MM
  • #34,919
  • May 15, 2012 11:18pm May 15, 2012 11:18pm
Sort EP -2698...fingers crossed
MM
  • #34,920
  • May 15, 2012 11:20pm May 15, 2012 11:20pm
Technically yes it is.

Have a look at the red bar on pretty high volume in the asia session tho.

Its a downbar closing near the high, Smart Money, or BB as TAH calls them are buying in that bar, im looking for longs cos of this bar

Quoting Mymoney
TA..is this a valid setup for short.. I knw u favor a long

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