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  • #12,501
  • May 11, 2012 11:32am May 11, 2012 11:32am
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Pivot Boss in the making~
  • #12,502
  • May 11, 2012 11:36am May 11, 2012 11:36am
Thats great DK! e/u as been soooooooooooo boring these days..........
Quoting Dyekid217
Finally got my new account funded and will start trading next week!! Not looking to short eu yet. The usd suffix pairs like EU GU AU NU are oversold right now so waiting for a rally back above the 20 level of stochastics. Usd prefix pairs are overbought like UC and UJ so waiting for a dip to buy.
  • #12,503
  • May 11, 2012 4:03pm May 11, 2012 4:03pm
Another great week with Symphonie.

Up +29.76% for the week.

Have a great weekend everyone!
  • #12,504
  • May 11, 2012 4:21pm May 11, 2012 4:21pm
Quoting Daytrader74
Another great week with Symphonie.

Up +29.76% for the week.

Have a great weekend everyone!
+57.73% (thx to a 30days long 1651.70 XAUUSD short +600p)
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  • #12,505
  • May 11, 2012 8:28pm May 11, 2012 8:28pm
Quoting lhDT
+57.73% (thx to a 30days long 1651.70 XAUUSD short +600p)
Well done mate! Thats awesome.
  • #12,506
  • May 11, 2012 8:38pm May 11, 2012 8:38pm
I'm gonna adjust the way I use my capital. I usually trade as many pairs that look good as possible. Instead I may focus on 1 pair for the day and use the total Lot size I'm allowed. Which.. With a 3.6k account is $3.60 per pip. So instead of trying to make 100+ pips over 3 different pairs I can focus on the best pair and capture a third of the pips that I usually try and get daily.

So 50 pips at $3 a pip is the same as 150 pips at $1 per pip. But sounds much more effective.

What would you guys recommend

Since I usually scan 8 pairs I want to trim it down to like 4. If so which pairs should I trade?
  • #12,507
  • May 11, 2012 8:42pm May 11, 2012 8:42pm
Quoting Dyekid217
I'm gonna adjust the way I use my capital. I usually trade as many pairs that look good as possible. Instead I may focus on 1 pair for the day and use the total Lot size I'm allowed. Which.. With a 3.6k account is $3.60 per pip. So instead of trying to make 100+ pips over 3 different pairs I can focus on the best pair and capture a third of the pips that I usually try and get daily.

So 50 pips at $3 a pip is the same as 150 pips at $1 per pip. But sounds much more effective.

What would you guys recommend

Since I usually scan 8 pairs I...
AUD/USD
  • #12,508
  • May 11, 2012 8:45pm May 11, 2012 8:45pm
Quoting Daytrader74
AUD/USD
Hah I was hoping for u to chime in because you're the one that gave me the idea to focus all of my capital into a fewer amount of trades rather than a bunch
  • #12,509
  • May 11, 2012 11:25pm May 11, 2012 11:25pm
Quoting Dyekid217
Hah I was hoping for u to chime in because you're the one that gave me the idea to focus all of my capital into a fewer amount of trades rather than a bunch
Yeah I find that to focus on one or max 2 pairs is much better and more profitable.
  • #12,510
  • May 12, 2012 1:20am May 12, 2012 1:20am
Quoting Daytrader74
AUD/USD
I also agree that AUDUSD is a more trending pair than EURUSD for the past six months, at least.
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  • #12,511
  • May 12, 2012 2:03am May 12, 2012 2:03am
Quoting Evaluator
Simply put....you are wrong. The gap remains (see screenshot) and until it closes .......
Actually whether there is a gap or not depends on which broker you use. Some brokers like IBFX opens late and you see that there is a gap to be filled. But some brokers, like Oanda, opens early on Sunday and as you can see from the attached chart, there is almost no gap (low of Friday:1.30764 and high of Sunday:1.30737, just 2.7 pips gap).
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  • #12,512
  • May 12, 2012 3:34am May 12, 2012 3:34am
Quoting Blackeagle
Actually whether there is a gap or not depends on which broker you use. Some brokers like IBFX opens late and you see that there is a gap to be filled. But some brokers, like Oanda, opens early on Sunday and as you can see from the attached chart, there is almost no gap (low of Friday:1.30764 and high of Sunday:1.30737, just 2.7 pips gap).

What are you talking about? The weekend gap is always there. Just because Oanda doesn't show it doesn't mean that there were tradeable times during those bars. That bar is filled to show the movement. The gap up/down is due to overnight interbank trading before the market opens to retail traders Sydney Monday open. Once it opens the price between what it closed at on Friday NY closed, and Sydney Monday open is GAP. Sometimes bigger then others. It has nothing to do with a broker opening later then the other. So as we now know, this week's gap was NOT filled totally, but close to it. Typically gap closes, even before continuing in it's current trend.
  • #12,513
  • May 12, 2012 3:40am May 12, 2012 3:40am
Quoting lhDT
+57.73% (thx to a 30days long 1651.70 XAUUSD short +600p)
  • #12,514
  • May 12, 2012 4:38am May 12, 2012 4:38am
On Friday three previous emotion bars changed colour so I ran a strategy test in visual mode with the Symphonie Matrix Advanced1.1 overlaid on the chart (M5). You can see repainting almost immediately, generally after spikes or at the start of trends.

I looked at the Symphonie_Emotion_Indicatorv 3.0.mq4 code. The reason for the repainting is that the indicator looks at future data. Obviously this is not available for the latest candle and it is not fully available until the candle gets to position 6.

The result is that although the system works as it is, the historic data does not represent what happened in real time.

The "problem" is in this section [SSP=7] :

SsMax = High[Highest(NULL,0,MODE_HIGH,SSP,i-SSP+1)];
SsMin = Low[Lowest(NULL,0,MODE_LOW,SSP,i-SSP+1)];

smax = SsMax-(SsMax-SsMin)*Kmax/100;

ExtMapBuffer1[i-SSP+6]=smax; <<< needs a different smax here
ExtMapBuffer2[i-SSP-1]=smax;

It is fixable. It would not change real time trading but might help people with backtesting.
  • #12,515
  • May 12, 2012 8:27am May 12, 2012 8:27am
Quoting Blackeagle
Actually whether there is a gap or not depends on which broker you use. Some brokers like IBFX opens late and you see that there is a gap to be filled. But some brokers, like Oanda, opens early on Sunday and as you can see from the attached chart, there is almost no gap (low of Friday:1.30764 and high of Sunday:1.30737, just 2.7 pips gap).
Not all the gaps close ... Sometimes they remain open for a looooong time. On daily it appears small but it was something like a 80pips, pretty huge ... !
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  • #12,516
  • May 12, 2012 8:51am May 12, 2012 8:51am
Nice to see you around lHDT ,
well done on that 57%, and gold?, i see you've moved to the big league!, haha,
regards and as i said, nice to see you're still around.
cuz
  • #12,517
  • May 12, 2012 11:00am May 12, 2012 11:00am
Quoting niktrad
On Friday three previous emotion bars changed colour so I ran a strategy test in visual mode with the Symphonie Matrix Advanced1.1 overlaid on the chart (M5). You can see repainting almost immediately, generally after spikes or at the start of trends.

I looked at the Symphonie_Emotion_Indicatorv 3.0.mq4 code. The reason for the repainting is that the indicator looks at future data. Obviously this is not available for the latest candle and it is not fully available until the candle gets to position 6.

The result is that although the system...
symphonie was designed with 4 repaint indicators last version use extreme nonrepaint and rest of indicators will repaint
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  • #12,518
  • May 12, 2012 11:32am May 12, 2012 11:32am
Quoting tehnobyte
symphonie was designed with 4 repaint indicators last version use extreme nonrepaint and rest of indicators will repaint
Yes, and it produces good results in real time.

However, because it uses future data, it repaints. So when you try to back test you are likely to see trades that weren't there in real time and vice versa.

I'm not suggesting changing the code - most people seem to like it the way it is. But if it was done you could backtest accurately.
  • #12,519
  • May 12, 2012 11:08pm May 12, 2012 11:08pm
Hello again guys. I decided last week that I really needed to get back to basics with some time in the simulator. I've been trying to find a work around for the issue with not being able to open multi-timeframe charts in the common simulators. I was mainly concerned about this as I want to test 60-5 higher TF confirmation versions of the system. Well I've stumbled across a simulator that can do just that, it works just like real time with as many side by side alternative TF charts as you like. Unfortunately it cost $100. Anyway I've got a link to a video of it running in multi-timeframe. If no one object I'm happy to post the link. I just dont want to post it up and then get accused of marketing. Anyone interested?

Cheers,

Dud
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  • #12,520
  • May 12, 2012 11:59pm May 12, 2012 11:59pm
You all know that I trade with Heiken Ashi candles and my colour choice is red and white. From time to time I miss trades, even though I have been looking at the charts. After I look back later on I see the trades I have missed and .....doh......how could have missed it...it was obvious?!?

To try and address this issue....and to suit my limited brain power (obviously), I have changed the colours of Matrix from blue and red, to white and red to match my candles.

Now......that *ought* to help....lol!

Time will tell
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