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  • Edited 11:30pm May 7, 2012 7:22pm | Edited 11:30pm
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  • #12,282
  • May 7, 2012 8:12pm May 7, 2012 8:12pm
Quoting ozgsnr
end of the day this is my viewpoint. Sometimes im not waiting arrow but it is caming for confirmation and Im more relax that time.

Red line stoploss green line TP.

I used RJ' s old advice with new matrix. My day finished with my time 16:00 (Frankfurt). Because 30Mn TVI start Red.

Also I have LTF-AtrProjektion I like it for TP.

With your comment I can fix my mistake. realjumper, ohammond, timf1979,
FXSwissTrader, Dyekid217 Thank you. Also yelena and the Great Evaluator.

Not: My English not good. Basic talk.
Great work OZ! You seem to understand the system well. Your english is actually pretty good too. Do you mind sharing how you calculate your take profits? Your technique seems really accurate going from your chart.

Thanks

Dud
Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face
  • #12,283
  • May 8, 2012 1:22am May 8, 2012 1:22am
Quoting Dud45
Great work OZ! You seem to understand the system well. Your english is actually pretty good too. Do you mind sharing how you calculate your take profits? Your technique seems really accurate going from your chart.

Thanks

Dud
Thanks Im newby too.

I use LFL-ATRprojections.ex4 I added a few post before. PA usually hit the this indi and teaking break last a few week. I can not say all the time because it show only today. and tvi turn color. But yesterday didnt turn I close position. And S&R. I dont wait 50-60-100 Pips. I prefere hit the pivot now but when market change I will let it go. I wish soon.
  • #12,284
  • May 8, 2012 1:46am May 8, 2012 1:46am
David Rosenberg's Take On Europe


From David Rosenberg of Gluskin Sheff


MY TAKE ON EUROPE

Europe is a mess, politically, economically, and fiscally. LTRO gave a short lifeline and at the same time bound the ties even more tightly between bank balance sheets and government bond performance. For all the backslapping, LTRO was a failure, pure and simple. Just as QE — for if QE had been a success, nobody would be looking for a third round (more like the fourth).
I fail to see how any country is going to be able to "grow" their way out of their deficits, barring ECB debt monetization or via German acceptance of a common fiscal policy, which would then allow profligate sovereigns to ride off of Germany's strong balance sheet. The problem is that the German economy is starting to soften, and along with that I expect polls to start showing lesser support for providing backstops to the periphery. And from a geopolitical standpoint, an ever-isolated Germany spells even more instability. Gold and the gold mining stocks should be a beneficiary.
In less than two years, we are now up to a total of seven European leaders or ruling parties that have been forced out of office, courtesy of the spreading government debt crisis — tack on France now to Ireland, Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain and the Netherlands. Even Germany's coalition is looking shaky in the aftermath of the faltering state election results for the CDU's (Christian Democratic Union) Free Democrat coalition partner.
This is quite a potent brew — financial insolvency, economic fragility and political instability.
Now we have governments, led by Mr. Hollande, who want to adopt "growth agendas" at a time when eroding credit quality is increasingly impeding fiscal borrowing capacity. The French vote comes quickly on the heels of the Dutch government collapse and is joined by a fractious election result in Greece. Germany and other pro-austerity/structural reform entities are the big losers. Then again, how cash-strapped sovereigns who need Germany's comparatively strong financial position embark on this new anti-fiscal-probity drive is an interesting question.
More uncertainty, more volatility, more risk-aversion likely lies ahead — and along with it, a further deterioration in government financial strength.
As it stands, globally, since the time the Great Recession took hold in 2008, we have seen the total value of government debt backed with AAA-ratings decline from over a 50% share of total outstanding sovereign credit to less than 10%. Quality is scarce, and as such should be owned.
In sum, this is not the backdrop for sustained risk-on investment behaviour. Both Bob Farrell and Walter Murphy see the current corrective phase in the market being extended over the near and intermediate term. I'm not sure I'd want to bet against them, even if Mike Santoli in Barron's and Paul Lim in the Sunday NYT are advocating a "buy the dips" strategy.
In terms of scouring the globe for countries that are currently being rated AAA by all three agencies, here they are:

 

  1. Australia
  2. Canada
  3. Denmark
  4. Finland
  5. Germany
  6. Luxembourg
  7. Netherlands
  8. Norway
  9. Singapore
  10. Sweden
  11. Switzerland
  12. U.K.

If we did a further overlay with respect to the most attractive "real yield" characteristics — low inflation and attractive coupons along with strong national balance sheets — we would find Norway, Australia and Switzerland leading the pack.

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  • May 8, 2012 2:48am May 8, 2012 2:48am
Quoting ozgsnr
Thanks Im newby too.

I use LFL-ATRprojections.ex4 I added a few post before. PA usually hit the this indi and teaking break last a few week. I can not say all the time because it show only today. and tvi turn color. But yesterday didnt turn I close position. And S&R. I dont wait 50-60-100 Pips. I prefere hit the pivot now but when market change I will let it go. I wish soon.
Thanks OZ. I did see you post that indi but didn't realise it was the TP/SL one. I'll give it a go.
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  • May 8, 2012 4:42am May 8, 2012 4:42am
maybe someone can help me.

i am trying to test symphony with a trade simulator.

i installed autorefresh 3.0 and symphony matrix advanced 1.1

but while testing the Higher TimeFrame monitor (60 minutes) is not changing colors (extr, trend, emot and sent keep on standing on the beginning colors). days and days all the blocks keep the same color.

isn't it possible to 'forward test' symphony with a trade simulator?

thanks in advance for the help.

tscheu la ling
  • #12,287
  • May 8, 2012 4:50am May 8, 2012 4:50am
Quoting tscheulaling
i installed autorefresh 3.0 and symphony matrix advanced 1.1
Is that all you installed?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,288
  • May 8, 2012 5:19am May 8, 2012 5:19am
Quoting realjumper
Is that all you installed?
realjumper,

i used the same template as i use in the 'live charts' EU, AU etc.
i also installed macd and stoch on the 5 minute charts. its all working good; symphony advanced macd and stoch are giving their new calculated positions every 5 minutes but the higher TimeFrame monitor does'nt change.

tscheu
  • #12,289
  • May 8, 2012 5:27am May 8, 2012 5:27am
Some minor correction!
Message HTF direction is not linked to monitor time-frame anymore, so
you can monitor any time-frame but HTF direction message will be from HTF chosen for signal confirmation. example on picture:
I am monitoring TF 240(4h) but i set HTF confirmation from 60min TF
PS
How to edit old post ?
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  • #12,290
  • May 8, 2012 5:29am May 8, 2012 5:29am
PA is horrendous since L/O. Wish it would make up it's mind.
  • #12,291
  • May 8, 2012 5:31am May 8, 2012 5:31am
Quoting tscheulaling
realjumper,

i used the same template as i use in the 'live charts' EU, AU etc.
i also installed macd and stoch on the 5 minute charts. its all working good; symphony advanced macd and stoch are giving their new calculated positions every 5 minutes but the higher TimeFrame monitor does'nt change.

tscheu
You need to instal the entire 3.0 pack even though you are just running the the advanced version. All the indicators must be installed.
  • #12,292
  • May 8, 2012 5:56am May 8, 2012 5:56am
Quoting mukamaisaac
You need to instal the entire 3.0 pack even though you are just running the the advanced version. All the indicators must be installed.
Correct. The Matrix is not an indicator. It reads the indicators from your experts/indicators folder and displays the data in a matrix format. That's all it does. In order for matrix to display the data, you need the indicators residing in your experts/indicators folder
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,293
  • May 8, 2012 6:07am May 8, 2012 6:07am
Quoting tehnobyte
Some minor correction!
Message HTF direction is not linked to monitor time-frame anymore, so
you can monitor any time-frame but HTF direction message will be from HTF chosen for signal confirmation. example on picture:
I am monitoring TF 240(4h) but i set HTF confirmation from 60min TF
PS
How to edit old post ?
Thanx buddy for your tireless effort.
Will test it and see.
  • #12,294
  • May 8, 2012 6:18am May 8, 2012 6:18am
Quoting realjumper
Correct. The Matrix is not an indicator. It reads the indicators from your experts/indicators folder and displays the data in a matrix format. That's all it does. In order for matrix to display the data, you need the indicators residing in your experts/indicators folder
thanks very much. but because i am not the most bright person in software/computers, maybe a stupid answer: i have the indies in the experts/indicators folder. thats why in real time (at this moment) the charts are updated very well.

but thinking about this: maybe thats the problem. maybe the HFT monitor is giving the actual/real time status of the EU (today 08 may 2012) and not the status of the simulated time (11 april 2012; if you understand what i mean). would it be nessesary to close the real time chart of EU????

thanks for your time.

tscheu
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  • May 8, 2012 6:25am May 8, 2012 6:25am
Quoting tscheulaling
thanks very much. but because i am not the most bright person in software/computers, maybe a stupid answer: i have the indies in the experts/indicators folder. thats why in real time (at this moment) the charts are updated very well.

but thinking about this: maybe thats the problem. maybe the HFT monitor is giving the actual/real time status of the EU (today 08 may 2012) and not the status of the simulated time (11 april 2012; if you understand what i mean). would it be nessesary to close the real time chart of EU????

thanks for your time.

tscheu...
I know that you can't test multi-time-frame indicator in MT4 strategy tester check if your trade simulator support MTF indicator !
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  • #12,296
  • May 8, 2012 6:29am May 8, 2012 6:29am
Quoting tscheulaling
thanks very much. but because i am not the most bright person in software/computers, maybe a stupid answer: i have the indies in the experts/indicators folder. thats why in real time (at this moment) the charts are updated very well.

but thinking about this: maybe thats the problem. maybe the HFT monitor is giving the actual/real time status of the EU (today 08 may 2012) and not the status of the simulated time (11 april 2012; if you understand what i mean). would it be nessesary to close the real time chart of EU????

thanks for your time.

tscheu...
It's easy to close real time chart, just click "X" on right top corner of the main chart. While the problem is , seems it's not the key of problem, because I encounter same issue when I tried to simulate, Matrix of M5 works quite fine but Matrix of H1 doesn't change color at all, no matter it's Matrix 3.0.1(old senti)with all blocks, or TVIES with last block only(developed by maudur).

My only conclusion is, MT4 Backtest Simulator doesn't support Multi TF!!!
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  • May 8, 2012 6:34am May 8, 2012 6:34am
Quoting tehnobyte
I know that you can't test multi-time-frame indicator in MT4 strategy tester check if your trade simulator support MTF indicator !
thanks for the patience. maybe thats the problem.
i am using Trade Sim V2.0 by LearnForexHome.com in the MT4 strategy tester.

do you know if there is another simulator that support MTF indie?

thanks very much.

tscheu
  • #12,298
  • May 8, 2012 6:34am May 8, 2012 6:34am
Quoting mybzi
It's easy to close real time chart, just click "X" on right top corner of the main chart. While the problem is , seems it's not the key of problem, because I encounter same issue when I tried to simulate, Matrix of M5 works quite fine but Matrix of H1 doesn't change color at all, no matter it's Matrix 3.0.1(old senti)with all blocks, or TVIES with last block only(developed by maudur).

My only conclusion is, MT4 Backtest Simulator doesn't support Multi TF!!!
That's my understanding too.....changing TF in the simulator doesn't work. Ohammond is the top gun with the simulator, perhaps ask her when she comes online
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,299
  • May 8, 2012 6:36am May 8, 2012 6:36am
Quoting woolo
Of course not! But you know "on the words of noone" and all that jazz.

I am a scientist at heart so being able to replicate results is part of my learning process. Sure one person in this thread has shown positive results but that is only one person. Could those results be false? Possibly, not saying they are but how should i know? Testing is the only way.
In KS3 science students are told to always do a test three times with the same standard conditions just to minimise the effect of chance/probability in the whole thing. To get a more accurate...
Woolo, I completely agreed with what you saying, and thanks for what you doing. I think that testing Symphony according to all rules in post #1 and sharing results and charts will be very useful for all forum members.
I would like to thank Evaluator and active forum members for creation and developing Symphony.
But some of members likes sharing with very impressive results and not posted their charts or examples of trading. Maybe they dont want to share professional secrets or their own developments.
Some traders added to system different indicators and tools wich help them in trading. However Symphony must working with post #1 rules. But nobody before you dont try to test Symphony only according to that rules and posted here - in thread its daily results and charts.
I think that comments of members who are trying to stop your work are not correct. If somebody has a great results with stochastic, MA or something else - its their own method based on Symphony - but their method not rules of Symphony and not in post #1.
In fact, I want to say, that your job is great and very useful.
  • #12,300
  • May 8, 2012 6:46am May 8, 2012 6:46am
Quoting realjumper
That's my understanding too.....changing TF in the simulator doesn't work. Ohammond is the top gun with the simulator, perhaps ask her when she comes online
can you please shine a light on this simulator case?

thanks in advance.

tscheu
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