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  • #637,441
  • May 1, 2012 10:34am May 1, 2012 10:34am
Quoting stevexyg


Unbelievable. They can extradite our citizens to the other side of the world proffering no evidence but they can't police their own internet firms. Unbelievable.

That is the law in the US. Owners of websites are not responsible for the fraudulent activities of its posters.

But like I said before, the issue is not a legal one, it is a moral one.

FF is self policing, there are no moderators, other then Twee. You can't expect the thieves and criminals to police themselves, that leads to anargy.

And that is what is happening lately, plenty here are getting away with murder and there is nobody stopping them.

On the broker side, there is no critisism of any brokers here as they pay the bill and FF has to tread a fine line.
  • #637,442
  • May 1, 2012 10:35am May 1, 2012 10:35am
Quoting QuadrupleX
LOL! I don't think Twee lives around here and even if I knew his wereabouts I would't bother.

Who sets the tone here is MERLIN. He owns the site and he used to be really a A$$ around. Untill he pissed some Russians and they started to hack FF. The site used to get screwed daily.

Than Merlin disappeared ( he maybe still post under other handles) and the attacks stopped.
Lol Damn. Well I would just like to put a face behind the name that's all. Like I'll be hooking up with Chonchy over in Hialeah, and may touch bases with Teemo also. have some things in storage in Port Saint lucie I need to pick through. And the reluctant visit to father's house in Miramar. I bought ny first Beamer from Florida fine cars down on 441.
All that is left in FF is just plain garbage. "Cloggie"
  • #637,443
  • May 1, 2012 10:35am May 1, 2012 10:35am
Quoting cloggie
And everyone who tried to stop him, got banned. He had free reign here, purely by design.
true. one of the most "respected".... fucking thug...People were going to call the FBI/Interpol on him.. Whatever happened to that? Probably nothing..
  • #637,444
  • May 1, 2012 10:36am May 1, 2012 10:36am
Quoting QuadrupleX
LOL! I don't think Twee lives around here and even if I knew his wereabouts I would't bother.

Who sets the tone here is MERLIN. He owns the site and he used to be really a A$$ around. Untill he pissed some Russians and they started to hack FF. The site used to get screwed daily.

Than Merlin disappeared ( he maybe still post under other handles) and the attacks stopped.
Oh! And I forgot to add that are rumors around that Cloggie is in reality Merlin!
  • #637,445
  • May 1, 2012 10:37am May 1, 2012 10:37am
Quoting stevexyg


Unbelievable. They can extradite our citizens to the other side of the world proffering no evidence but they can't police their own internet firms. Unbelievable.
Well... It gets tricky... Freedom of speech and stuff.. They tried, but it failed in Congress... Actually I don't think it even made it there..
  • #637,446
  • May 1, 2012 10:38am May 1, 2012 10:38am
Expat/EdgeTrader/Clay/Keith Brown also has a bit of history around FF. Recently I heard he might be back again in a new incarnation. The guy never gives up. And why would he? Apparently he is a very succesful scammer and gets away with it.
  • #637,447
  • May 1, 2012 10:38am May 1, 2012 10:38am
Quoting attila
true. one of the most "respected".... fucking thug...People were going to call the FBI/Interpol on him.. Whatever happened to that? Probably nothing..

Nothing, that is a huge problem with fraud in trading, the issues are so complex, cover so many jurisdictions that investigating them gets very expensive let alone prosecuting them.

And that's why owners like FF need to come down harder rooting out the problem at source.
  • #637,448
  • May 1, 2012 10:39am May 1, 2012 10:39am
Quoting PipAdder
Expat/EdgeTrader/Clay/Keith Brown also has a bit of history around FF. Recently I heard he might be back again in a new incarnation. The guy never gives up. And why would he? Apparently he is a very succesful scammer and gets away with it.

35,000 members, even at a few hundred bucks in their account each you are talking millions of dollars behind usernames here. Good pickings for fraudsters, no need to go looking for them, the victims are all in one place. No need to advertise, no overhead, just join FF and go to work.
  • #637,449
  • May 1, 2012 10:40am May 1, 2012 10:40am
Quoting tonyo524
To all of you 20 something traders. Make sure to take long breaks from the monitors. I screwed up and did not in my years of trading now my eyes are crap. I've got the main charts on a 40 inch monitor, and still can't seem to read the type. just a heads up. Or it could just be age, but in that case don't get old lol.
Thats the best advise I've heard all day!
  • #637,450
  • May 1, 2012 10:41am May 1, 2012 10:41am
Quoting cloggie
35,000 members, even at a few hundred bucks in their account each you are talking millions of dollars behind usernames here. Good pickings for fraudsters, no need to go looking for them, the victims are all in one place. No need to advertise, no overhead, just join FF and go to work.
rat
  • #637,451
  • May 1, 2012 10:42am May 1, 2012 10:42am
Quoting cloggie
Nothing, that is a huge problem with fraud in trading, the issues are so complex, cover so many jurisdictions that investigating them gets very expensive let alone prosecuting them.

And that's why owners like FF need to come down harder rooting out the problem at source.
Didn't you know, America thrives on fraud. We start fraudulent wars, We defraud people from there homes, We create fraudulent taxes. Hell until recently, it was perfectly legal for our congress men and women to do insider trading. that's the good ole U.S of A for ya!
All that is left in FF is just plain garbage. "Cloggie"
  • #637,452
  • May 1, 2012 10:44am May 1, 2012 10:44am
London closed, my posts have survived the censorship for another day. All the known fraudsters are still here posting merrily away.

Have I achieved anything, on the face of it not really, but maybe I have kept a single newer trader from parting with his cash or see the systems/strategies threads for what it really is, all a scam with nobody criticising the posters there.

From where I am sitting FF is facing a dilemma, they can either continue on the path they have chosen, ban bad comments of brokers, allow posters here to ban any and all critisism, allow the known scammers and fraudsters to continue, or they can think about doing the tough thing, the right thing and make a real difference in the life of newer traders.

Their choice.

I for one am not happy with the way FF has been going in the last few days and I wll stand by my choice that I would rather gets deleted from this forum then to continue with it at its current guise.

Why would I want to participate in a place where fraudsters run amok, where free speech is censored, where any bad word against the sponsors get deleted, where any thief can just have a go at the few proper traders and where noobies get purposedly misdirected, setting them back years in their journey to profitability.
  • #637,453
  • May 1, 2012 10:45am May 1, 2012 10:45am
Quoting tonyo524
Didn't you know, America thrives on fraud. We start fraudulent wars, We defraud people from there homes, We create fraudulent taxes. Hell until recently, it was perfectly legal for our congress men and women to do insider trading. that's the good ole U.S of A for ya!

I worked there, just the same here on this side of the pond.
  • #637,454
  • May 1, 2012 10:47am May 1, 2012 10:47am
Quoting cloggie
I worked there, just the same here on this side of the pond.
Not only that, EVERYTHING is a Ponzi scheme. The stock market, pension funds, social security, I can go on and on.. That's why they say "buyer beware"..
  • #637,455
  • May 1, 2012 10:48am May 1, 2012 10:48am
Quoting attila
Well... It gets tricky... Freedom of speech and stuff.. They tried, but it failed in Congress... Actually I don't think it even made it there..
Yep in uk we have freedom of expression inshrined in our Human Rights Act but I would be fairly sure FF type sites have certain legal responsibilities. People have been imprisoned here for comments made on twitter/freakbook recently.
  • #637,456
  • May 1, 2012 10:49am May 1, 2012 10:49am
Quoting megajester
How about every member who posts here advertise "NEVER NEVER PAY FOR SIGNALS OR ADVICE ON THIS THREAD OR LINKED TO THIS THREAD" I'll change mine now. If I get banned for this then you will know FF are in on it
How to put in
"NEVER NEVER PAY FOR SIGNALS OR ADVICE ON THIS THREAD OR ANY LINKS LINKED TO THIS THREAD and that includes ME!"
at the bottom of the post?
  • #637,457
  • May 1, 2012 10:49am May 1, 2012 10:49am
Quoting stevexyg
Yep in uk we have freedom of expression inshrined in our Human Rights Act but I would be fairly sure FF type sites have certain legal responsibilities. People have been imprisoned here for comments made on twitter/freakbook recently.
That's a little fucked up. I don't agree with that...
  • #637,458
  • May 1, 2012 10:51am May 1, 2012 10:51am
Quoting attila
That's a little fucked up. I don't agree with that...

There is no constitutional protection of free speech here. The little bit we have here is now being eroded by parliamentary investigations.

One guy here got 7 years in prison for saying lets start a riot on facebook.
  • #637,459
  • May 1, 2012 10:53am May 1, 2012 10:53am
Quoting cloggie
There is no constitutional protection of free speech here. The little bit we have here is now being eroded by parliamentary investigations.
That's not good.. I will take 1000 forex farm type of sites lurking with fraudsters over the First Amendment.

7 years.. wow..
  • #637,460
  • May 1, 2012 10:53am May 1, 2012 10:53am
anyone watching the eur usd today
will 28 hold for more down side ??
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