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  • #636,641
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:18am Apr 30, 2012 11:18am
Quoting hlina9
Ok let see if we will reach 3260
trading's pretty much over for the day..
  • #636,642
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:19am Apr 30, 2012 11:19am
Quoting attila
If one understands THIS, then the underlying principle can be taken and built into any system, your system..

NO one thing will make you money if you don't understand this...
Well said. Something I realised when reading posts of Cloggie in the last year or so. I only got back reading this thread when I saw him posting again.
So much distraction in this thread that a newbie traders mind is easily shaken. (That's why an ignore list is very helpful.)

Off course he was kicking around in this thread, but hey everyone has a different character. I could see through a bunch of crap to find some jewels.
In stead of reading all those different "signals" in this thread, making your mind go all crazy, I look at my charts, watch PA and decide what will price do next, if .. then .. if..
And just figure out a system that works for you instead of adapting one of others that doesn't suit you. There are a lot of different ways to get yourself paid out of this market. The one could go long the other short on the same pair, the same day and still get paid. But you have to trade your own plan, test it, trade it, repeat it.

The last few months I have been reading in the Really Useless thread, were traders like Attila and others write a lot of good info. Just pick out the info that suits your system. At least don't go paying for signals from others if you actually want to learn how to trade yourself. Because if you always rely on other signals you wont get there...

And just to make sure I don't get covered in some commentaryshit...I am not there yet
  • #636,643
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:20am Apr 30, 2012 11:20am
Quoting stevexyg
Instead of trying to look clever why don't you explain yorself a bit more?

Do you think it is not possible to make 300pips from a market that moves 60pips on way then back up 40 or do you not believe Cloggies statements?


It is all about position size, money management and your daily goal. If you do not understand that - your problem - since you are a bit to hostile toward me.

Ask Cloggs why he barely/never? showed trade entry and exits in timely manner?

When I take a trade with multiple entries, and I make 20, 30, 50, and 60 pips on that 4 positions, do you think it has some value/merit to then state, that I made 160pips?

Before answering - think!
  • #636,644
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:21am Apr 30, 2012 11:21am
Quoting X.work
it is very interesting to know when to scalp and when not. could you explain please.
There are many many threrads on this at FF. Pick one and start reading.

To ask someone to explain to you when to scalp and when not to in a single post is like asking someone to show you how paint. Think about it. You could get a painting lesson off da Vinci - would it make you a grand master? What would you need to do to be able to paint something that even comes close to touching the sublime indefineable beauty of the Mona Lisa?
  • #636,645
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:21am Apr 30, 2012 11:21am
Quoting KillerWhale
That's what I hope too and then reload short to 1.6165 first.
But watch support 1.6206

nice.. not confident shorting from here although it should splash more down.. i rather wait for 6278 to short it.
  • #636,646
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:21am Apr 30, 2012 11:21am
Quoting Patience
Yeah, I've died a few times over the years.

I know it's hard to believe, but once upon a time, in a land far, far away, this thread used to be quite sane.
That was a long time ago
New voice message: Why are you calling me? If I need you, I'll call you!
  • #636,647
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:23am Apr 30, 2012 11:23am
Quoting Baz00ka
Hey cloggie sup man, mind if i ask u somethin? i really do respect ur trading skills bro,honestly i do! but i am a bit confused now... how can u let other people get on ur nerves? Was it not u brother who told us tht trading can change ur lifestyle in the way it teaches u to be cool n calm and most of all be patient??

i know sometimes people can really make u reach ur limits but common man,be a sport and ignore em all!.. u cant win em all ya kno ,Jzt care abt the ones who love u and ur excellent trading skills

Keep up the gr8 work bro......
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  • #636,648
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:25am Apr 30, 2012 11:25am
Quoting stevexyg
you closed a short on gbp/usd for a loss just now?
yep since last week
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #636,649
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:25am Apr 30, 2012 11:25am
okay now sell level on EU 3275... buy levels 3198, 3183
  • #636,650
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:26am Apr 30, 2012 11:26am
Quoting KillerWhale
That was a long time ago

ok only balblalba from you again.

what about your BIG "longterm" positions long Usd / cad 0.99?

LOL only thieves and liares here
  • #636,651
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:26am Apr 30, 2012 11:26am
Quoting infinitus

When I take a trade with multiple entries, and I make 20, 30, 50, and 60 pips on that 4 positions, do you think it has some value/merit to then state, that I made 160pips?

Before answering - think!
I can't for the life of me acertain what you are trying to ask me here. All I can say with certainty is that you have ignored my last quastion so I reserve the right to igniore yours - whatever it was.
  • #636,652
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:26am Apr 30, 2012 11:26am
Quoting DaClan
What statement in particular? Not sure I made any statement other than newer guys would rather want to learn how to trade on their own instead of some one telling them where to go long/short from? -or the statement that you won't get it? - if you got it - i appologise.

ps I never said you went against Cloggs... I just know that Ratyo and yourself today criticize him... My question is why???... Why not leave him be - I ignore many posts as I don't feel the need to get into a dick measuring competition here - I am confident on my own.

pps....


So, another poster with short memory:



That is what you wrote:

"anyway... Rat and infant really want to have a dick measuring contest everytime Clog came online, which begs to differ - why the need? Do they really feel so insecure about it all?"


But it is up to you following your prophet blindly into conventional wisdom, scarifying your proudness.......
  • #636,653
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:27am Apr 30, 2012 11:27am
Quoting pipnaija
okay now sell level on EU 3275... buy levels 3198, 3183
i have pending orders there so i am in the middle of nowhere
  • #636,654
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:28am Apr 30, 2012 11:28am
Why does nobody take the context of what Cloggie was saying into account?

A few months ago when he was making these comments about scalping it was on down trending days where getting 40+ pips wasn't much of a task.

Let me pinpoint to where he was using his scalping strat. What do you do on days like this if you're not retarded? Either don't trade the tiny range or you scalp. Is everyone's memory this short here, or are they fraudsters?

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  • #636,655
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:28am Apr 30, 2012 11:28am
Out and done for the day ...

2012-04-30_18h05_ EURUSD _ min020 _ (5Dy) barchart + PSAR + TL

Tomorrow there will be BANK HOLIDAY in several regions and some of you might take that into consideration ...





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  • #636,656
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:29am Apr 30, 2012 11:29am
Quoting infinitus
It is all about position size, money management and your daily goal. If you do not understand that - your problem - since you are a bit to hostile toward me.

Ask Cloggs why he barely/never? showed trade entry and exits in timely manner?

When I take a trade with multiple entries, and I make 20, 30, 50, and 60 pips on that 4 positions, do you think it has some value/merit to then state, that I made 160pips?

Before answering - think!
hello bro

u got replied on other thread
If there was easy money lying around,no one would be forcing it into your
  • #636,657
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:29am Apr 30, 2012 11:29am
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When I take a trade with multiple entries, and I make 20, 30, 50, and 60 pips on that 4 positions, do you think it has some value/merit to then state, that I made 160pips?

Before answering -...
YES. All that counts is what's in the bag.
  • #636,658
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:29am Apr 30, 2012 11:29am
Quoting flofri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9plkjPvebY
from Dutch TV, most appropriate.
  • #636,659
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:30am Apr 30, 2012 11:30am
I'm at the useless thread for fun mostly.. However, I did give some pointers in some of my posts.. The most difficult thing in trading is figuring out on what TF the trading is happening at this very moment. That will tell you, among many things which support/resistance is important.. Trading moves from one TF to another in no particular order and with no warning but in general the trend change is visible on the lower ones first... Anyway, it's a lot... but what I'm trying to say, if one focuses only on Fibs, or trendlines or whatever alone will never make it because there is not one line on the chart, system or EA that will make you money..Anyway, I'm not going to be no teacher, not my thing...


Quoting Stretch
Well said. Something I realised when reading posts of Cloggie in the last year or so. I only got back reading this thread when I saw him posting again.
So much distraction in this thread that a newbie traders mind is easily shaken. (That's why a ignore list is very helpful.)

Off course he was kicking around in this thread, but hey everyone has a different character. I could see through a bunch of crap to find some jewels.
In stead of reading all those different "signals" in this thread, making your mind go all crazy, I look at my charts,...
  • #636,660
  • Apr 30, 2012 11:31am Apr 30, 2012 11:31am
by the way... Cloggie was very good at spotting S/R levels. I noticed that a few people here at FF were also able to come up with his S/R levels. When he would say a number, I would mark it on my chart and figure out how he came to that number. At first I thought that he was doing some fancy math with averages, but then one day, I started seeing how he found his numbers... Or at least very close. It isn't obvious at first, and there is some cross reference that I am guessing he did. The cool thing that I noticed was that most of his numbers that I was able to find seemed to be on the first rejection of a candle and then try to find a candle in the past that got rejected significantly the same in the past. The body that was closest to the rejected area would constitute the most acurate level. However, I am still learning.. What do I know... ha ha ha
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