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  • #11,561
  • Apr 22, 2012 5:14pm Apr 22, 2012 5:14pm
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Took trade after seeing all four indi's showing buy and the next candle opening above ma.
  • #11,562
  • Apr 22, 2012 5:20pm Apr 22, 2012 5:20pm
Quoting realjumper
The problem with the sim is unless you are careful to take the signals only during the right time, you will lose. I have said on this thread many times, that you cannot force the market to give up it's pips for you when it's convenient for you. In other words, you can turn on your machine whenever you feel like it and expect to earn pips.....many, many people fail to grasp this and they lose. Therefore, you need to carefully watch the time you are 'trading' in the sim to make sure that you are trading at a time when the market is most likely to...
Hi Realjumper!

Thanks a lot for you answer.
While simulating i was only trading from Frankie open to London close. I know that you gave that advice before, so i am demo trading only in that period and also while simulating, i only considered trades in that period.

I also followed your rule that states that we should only take nice candles (not dojis, consolidation or small candles) that open clearly above/below the 5ema and the Supertrendline. Also i paid close attention to the stochastics.

I will be posting some screenshots, so that you can help me understand if i did something wrong that could be prevented.

Thanks again. Its good to have advice from such an experienced trader!

Munir
  • #11,563
  • Apr 22, 2012 5:24pm Apr 22, 2012 5:24pm
Quoting Dyekid217
Yeah too bad pivots and candle time don't work in the sim. It's one major flaw that doesn't help too much when it comes to testing strategies. Pivots play a "pivotal" roll in my strategy
Hi Dyekid.

I actually managed to have pivots and ADR levels working on the simulator.
What i had to do is to pause the simulator every day (for example at 2AM), remove the pivot indicator. Then start the simulator. Then pause it again later(for example 3AM). Then drag again the Pivot indie, and it would correctly place the new levels for the day in the simulator chart.

I dont know if it works that way with every Pivot and ADR indicator, but if you need i can post the indicators Im using...

Wish you another successful week

Munir
  • #11,564
  • Apr 22, 2012 6:39pm Apr 22, 2012 6:39pm
Quoting tehnobyte
I am working on matrix which will no repaint. See the picture first from top is non-repainting one (that mean no single line repaint) second is 3.0.1 old sentiment. Have a good weekend

If it performs are you interested? - If so please add your names to the non-repainting list of users because *you* may find that you prefer it and it may fit your trading style.


Zingers. 17/4/12

So as to reduce all the repainting , could we ask the the good people who put matrix v3.0.1(old sentiment) indicator together to give us an update.


tehnobyte. 20/4/12

I am working on matrix which will no repaint. See the picture first from top is non-repainting one (that mean no single line repaint) second is 3.0.1 old sentiment. Have a good weekend


J316 20/4/12

Keep up the good work tehnobyte, can't wait to see how this new matrix performs.


FXSwissTrader 20/4/12

We'll be looking for it tehno.



Obviously we all know that when this is released and traders use this version that they will still be required to do some work and also be able to recognize the pattern that has formed and as to whether it is important or not before placing any trades.
  • #11,565
  • Apr 22, 2012 6:49pm Apr 22, 2012 6:49pm
Quoting Zingers
If it performs are you interested? - If so please add your names to the non-repainting list of users because *you* may find that you prefer it and it may fit your trading style.
Why would people want to add their names to your list??
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,566
  • Edited 7:50pm Apr 22, 2012 7:27pm | Edited 7:50pm
Quoting kevguy
and the "manager guy" ....retired at 28 after making millions....whats he doing in a show if hes already a millionarie?...
Interesting Sir, but what do you think about what Donald Trump doing in a show of the apprentice if he s already billionaire ? lol
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  • #11,567
  • Apr 22, 2012 8:02pm Apr 22, 2012 8:02pm
Quoting munirpt
Hi Dyekid.

I actually managed to have pivots and ADR levels working on the simulator.
What i had to do is to pause the simulator every day (for example at 2AM), remove the pivot indicator. Then start the simulator. Then pause it again later(for example 3AM). Then drag again the Pivot indie, and it would correctly place the new levels for the day in the simulator chart.

I dont know if it works that way with every Pivot and ADR indicator, but if you need i can post the indicators Im using...

Wish you another successful week

Munir...
Lol thanks munir I'm sure someone will find that info useful. I'm just trading live now and am past the testing phase. I am no longer testing any new methods so symphony is the only system I need

I hope everyone has a good week!!
  • #11,568
  • Apr 22, 2012 8:16pm Apr 22, 2012 8:16pm
Quoting kevguy
That show doesnt make sense....why would someone give 1million dollars to stangers/ noobs and ask them to trade and make money? and the "manager guy" ....retired at 28 after making millions....whats he doing in a show if hes already a millionarie?.......but nice to see the emotions they go through and the "paralysis by analysis",, and how they react after taking loss after loss..... they loved it at first ....then begin to hate the market ...lol Ive been there.
I think it makes plenty of sense.. I'm pretty sure one of the best hedge managers in the world wouldn't mind putting up 1 million to have a thought provoking experience.. I'm sure his net worth is in the billions..I find the entire show to be kind of like an experiment to really show how tough it is to make it in the market... and not anyone can do it.
  • #11,569
  • Apr 22, 2012 9:08pm Apr 22, 2012 9:08pm
Here's an interesting look at the stoch that is present in EJ at the moment. We know that stoch can stay oversold/overbought for a long time...relatively speaking, this in an M5 chart. You can see the circled area's that show how the stoch is O/S yet the price continues to fall. Some may see that as bad.....however, I see it as really good.

Would I enter a trade with the stoch so low even the PA is still falling? No chance!! The train already left the station ages ago, if you try and jump on a moving train, you'll get hurt. Another train will be along later.

The point though, is that if you got on this trade early, there is no reason to exit just because the stoch is O/S.....until that stoch crosses and turns up, preferably crossing the 20 line, I'll stay in the trade. Because the top row of the Matrix has turned blue, I am now ready to exit, but I won't do so until stoch clearly shows that the move is over.
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Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,570
  • Apr 22, 2012 9:15pm Apr 22, 2012 9:15pm
Quoting Evaluator
The German IFO Business Confidence survey was all it took and the EURUSD surges outside of the consolidation area breaking the range wedge. This now changes the dynamics of the pattern and brings into focus the flat triangle as I feared a few days ago that touch point 4 would not reach the bottom and would dies because of continued STRONG support at the 1.30600 level.

This has now played out and I look to see the EURUSD now move to complete the expanding triange with a move to the 1.38054 level. Looking to some big rallies in the EURUSD short...
After relooking at the charts this weekend I think it premature of me to state that 1.3800 is next. There is one more area the will need to be closely watched as a potential reversal point and that level will be the 1.32300 to 1.32500 level. This is the top of a resistance line of the right shoulder of the very long and drawn out head and shoulders pattern.

Ad break here higher will mean that 1.38000 becomes the next target. As usual 1.30600 is the very strong neckline that we are looking for a break to confirm reversal.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #11,571
  • Apr 22, 2012 9:18pm Apr 22, 2012 9:18pm
Quoting realjumper
Here's an interesting look at the stoch that is present in EJ at the moment. We know that stoch can stay oversold/overbought for a long time...relatively speaking, this in an M5 chart. You can see the circled area's that show how the stoch is O/S yet the price continues to fall. Some may see that as bad.....however, I see it as really good.

Would I enter a trade with the stoch so low even the PA is still falling? No chance!! The train already left the station ages ago, if you try and jump on a moving train, you'll get hurt. Another train will...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...difference.gif

My indi's look a little different. The entry on my screen was a few bars after yours. Are your settings different then what is posted on the first page?
  • #11,572
  • Apr 22, 2012 9:21pm Apr 22, 2012 9:21pm
Quoting VBFlyin

My indi's look a little different. The entry on my screen was a few bars after yours. Are your settings different then what is posted on the first page?
I use 20 , 5 on the Trend, the others are all default settings
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,573
  • Apr 22, 2012 10:23pm Apr 22, 2012 10:23pm
Quoting realjumper
I use 20 , 5 on the Trend, the others are all default settings
I have a feeling that the arrow indicator is related to these numbers, am I right?
  • #11,574
  • Apr 22, 2012 11:05pm Apr 22, 2012 11:05pm
Quoting VBFlyin
I have a feeling that the arrow indicator is related to these numbers, am I right?
The arrow has nothing to do with anything else....it is a stand alone indicator
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,575
  • Apr 23, 2012 1:04am Apr 23, 2012 1:04am
Quoting kevguy
That show doesnt make sense....why would someone give 1million dollars to stangers/ noobs and ask them to trade and make money? and the "manager guy" ....retired at 28 after making millions....whats he doing in a show if hes already a millionarie?.......but nice to see the emotions they go through and the "paralysis by analysis",, and how they react after taking loss after loss..... they loved it at first ....then begin to hate the market ...lol Ive been there.
I guess you never heard about Richard Dennis, William Echardt and the Turtles.

My personal opinion about the show is that he wanted to be the new Dennis.
But it is always interesting to see the psychology behind trading and that is why I loved the show.
  • #11,576
  • Apr 23, 2012 2:04am Apr 23, 2012 2:04am
i would like to know if the setiment indicator repaint often in 1hr after the close of bar
  • #11,577
  • Apr 23, 2012 2:10am Apr 23, 2012 2:10am
I see that the price opened above pivot and made a high and then moved down towards the pivot and broke it and made a low. Then the price moved above the pivot and made a lower high and currently is below pivot. I am looking to go short on a fresh symphonie signal. Comments are welcomed.
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  • #11,578
  • Apr 23, 2012 2:22am Apr 23, 2012 2:22am
ive been short on most pairs for the past 4 hours already...
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  • #11,579
  • Apr 23, 2012 2:36am Apr 23, 2012 2:36am
Quoting Dyekid217
ive been short on most pairs for the past 4 hours already...

I watch with admiration.
  • #11,580
  • Apr 23, 2012 2:36am Apr 23, 2012 2:36am
killin it.. up 170+ pips so far and counting.. 180 now
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