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  • #11,321
  • Apr 18, 2012 1:49am Apr 18, 2012 1:49am
On my GU H1 chart, the Symphonie Matrix 3.0.1 (old sentiment) is showing red-blue-red-blue. On my GU 5m chart, with autorefresh v 3.0, the Symphonie Matrix ESv3.0 (set to timeframe 60) is showing all red. Anyone got any ideas please, or is it me?
Kan
Thanks for your help, warmth and straight talking Heather.
  • #11,322
  • Apr 18, 2012 1:55am Apr 18, 2012 1:55am
Quoting Kanderpro
On my GU H1 chart, the Symphonie Matrix 3.0.1 (old sentiment) is showing red-blue-red-blue. On my GU 5m chart, with autorefresh v 3.0, the Symphonie Matrix ESv3.0 (set to timeframe 60) is showing all red. Anyone got any ideas please, or is it me?
Kan
Would you like to post a chart so we can see what you mean....or shall we guess?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,323
  • Apr 18, 2012 2:13am Apr 18, 2012 2:13am
Quoting Kanderpro
On my GU H1 chart, the Symphonie Matrix 3.0.1 (old sentiment) is showing red-blue-red-blue. On my GU 5m chart, with autorefresh v 3.0, the Symphonie Matrix ESv3.0 (set to timeframe 60) is showing all red. Anyone got any ideas please, or is it me?
Kan
Check to see if the ESv3.0 is set to refresh on the close of the hourly or 5min bar I think its the top one in the input settings, that can make a lot of difference.
  • #11,324
  • Apr 18, 2012 2:25am Apr 18, 2012 2:25am
hey everyone.... maybe someone could help me out with this....
if the euro is stuck in a range for x amount of bars and then there is a breakout.... is there a way to calculate the length of the breakout based on the range....?
  • #11,325
  • Apr 18, 2012 2:27am Apr 18, 2012 2:27am
My thanks go to Dyekid217 and his template.
For me it is really clear.
Thanks.

My first trade today.
h1 show short.
in M5 i got my entry and cut my position on the S1.
Now the reast i will let run.

Thanks Dyekid217 for your time.
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  • #11,326
  • Apr 18, 2012 2:50am Apr 18, 2012 2:50am
Quoting ohammond
Check to see if the ESv3.0 is set to refresh on the close of the hourly or 5min bar I think its the top one in the input settings, that can make a lot of difference.
Thanks, Olivia. The ESv3.0 is set to timeframe 60 as per the original instructions. I think the creator of ESv3.0 is Maudur. Are you out there?
Thanks for your help, warmth and straight talking Heather.
  • #11,327
  • Apr 18, 2012 3:49am Apr 18, 2012 3:49am
Quoting ohammond
Check to see if the ESv3.0 is set to refresh on the close of the hourly or 5min bar I think its the top one in the input settings, that can make a lot of difference.

Ohammond. Can you attach the Esv3.0 version? I'm still using the 1.0 version. Can't find it in the attachments above. Thank you.
  • #11,328
  • Apr 18, 2012 4:19am Apr 18, 2012 4:19am
Quoting FXSwissTrader
Ohammond. Can you attach the Esv3.0 version? I'm still using the 1.0 version. Can't find it in the attachments above. Thank you.
Its the one he posted here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...73#post5529173
  • #11,329
  • Apr 18, 2012 4:33am Apr 18, 2012 4:33am
Quoting ohammond
Its the one he posted here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...73#post5529173

Thank you. Have a great day.
  • #11,330
  • Apr 18, 2012 4:46am Apr 18, 2012 4:46am
Quoting realjumper
You're falling into the same trap that every other person falls into when they come here seeking the holy grail. Do you really think that none of us here are able to successfully trade this with consistency and accuracy? The very reason this system is so successful is that it (basically) hasn't changed. I suggest that you read the thread and not come here asking others to do work for you, that quite honestly, is not necessary. If you wish to use the SuperTrend nrp mtf_Alert, then use it. There is no need for it to be part of Matrix. Even if it's...
realjumper

I do not recollect mentioning the words "holy grail" or that i am searching for such, (in fact 2 of the indicators will still repaint) neither have i questioned your personal consistency or accuracy whilst trading realjumper and yes i am focused and the system has evolved despite what you may or not believe. It has been evolving since Sep 16, 2011 since evaluators first post. The replacement of the The Symphonie repainting Extreme Cycle Indikator2 with the TVI is one such example of the system evolving.

In your own post number 10273 you state "In order for Symphonie to evolve.....(not change....evolve), it is, in my opinion, important to be flexible and to accept enhancements for what they are."

The answer to your suggestion is "YES" i have read the thread from start to finish and the majority of your contributions have been informative and a pleasure to read, for example posts 10608 & 11208 together with your suggested template indicators and .pdf

Nobody doubts the success rate of the present system but as you have said "it is, important to be flexible and to accept enhancements for what they are" so i am sure that you would agree that if its an improvement that helps the system "evolve" and enhances whats presently in place then we should all embrace it.
  • #11,331
  • Apr 18, 2012 4:47am Apr 18, 2012 4:47am
Quoting realjumper
There has been some interest in divergence on the charts lately....and this is great because divergence coupled with Symphonie can be very powerful. However, a divergence that was posted recently was completely wrong, and if anyone had entered based on that, they would have lost.

I too have made mistakes when deciding on what type of divergence exists, and what it means. To stop myself from making these mistakes I have copied the Divergence Cheat Sheet from babypips.com. I attach this for you all to refer to please, before posting what see.
Thank's for the divergence sheet.

The divergence FXSwissTrader mentioned yesterday was very good

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post5580871

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...66#post5581366

and a reference for the following downmove (right now still moving with heavy momentum) ...
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  • #11,332
  • Apr 18, 2012 4:53am Apr 18, 2012 4:53am
Quoting realjumper
You're falling into the same trap that every other person falls into when they come here seeking the holy grail. Do you really think that none of us here are able to successfully trade this with consistency and accuracy? The very reason this system is so successful is that it (basically) hasn't changed. I suggest that you read the thread and not come here asking others to do work for you, that quite honestly, is not necessary. If you wish to use the SuperTrend nrp mtf_Alert, then use it. There is no need for it to be part of Matrix. Even if it's...
Excellent post RealJumper and soooo true! Symphonie works because it makes the trader have to think about what they are doing.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #11,333
  • Apr 18, 2012 4:59am Apr 18, 2012 4:59am
Quoting Zingers
realjumper

I do not recollect mentioning the words "holy grail" or that i am searching for such, (in fact 2 of the indicators will still repaint) neither have i questioned your personal consistency or accuracy whilst trading realjumper and yes i am focused and the system has evolved despite what you may or not believe. It has been evolving since Sep 16, 2011 since evaluators first post. The replacement of the The Symphonie repainting Extreme Cycle Indikator2 with the TVI is one such example of the system evolving.

In your own...
That's good....well done. What I'm saying is that before any additions and alterations are undertaken, the testing by a handful of very good traders here is undertaken. The testing is very vigorous and most proposed alterations fail the testing period. It is counter productive to change the Matrix every time a new indi comes along. If tat happened, I'm sure you'd agree, the whole house of cards would come tumbling down. The indi you suggest to replace the one in the Matrix may or may not be worthwhile. With the ending of repainting comes other issues. So far, changing the Matrix has not been tested in this way, but if you wish to use the indi because *you* prefer it.....then you can....just as ohammond has done.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #11,334
  • Apr 18, 2012 5:05am Apr 18, 2012 5:05am
Quoting Zingers
realjumper

I do not recollect mentioning the words "holy grail" or that i am searching for such, (in fact 2 of the indicators will still repaint) neither have i questioned your personal consistency or accuracy whilst trading realjumper and yes i am focused and the system has evolved despite what you may or not believe. It has been evolving since Sep 16, 2011 since evaluators first post. The replacement of the The Symphonie repainting Extreme Cycle Indikator2 with the TVI is one such example of the system evolving.

In your own...

Zingers,

Who cares that one of the indikators in Symphonie repaints!!!?? Not me... the point is that at the time of the signal there is a shift in market price action and Symphonie is telling you to take a position because there will be price action directional change. However, it does require the trader to do some work and recognize the pattern that has formed and understand why it is important for one to take that position.

RealJumper is correct. Since the start of this thread Symphonie has not changed the basic principles by which this system was created has remained exactly the same. There has been one recient change and that was the new extreme indikator but the only reason for that change was because it does exactly the same as the older version with one major exception....IT DOES NOT REPAINT! Its basic markings of exhaustion points (i.e. extreme) remains the same and that is why it was incorporated into Symphonie.

To successfully trade Symphonie all one has to do is follow the guidlines set in post#1 (that includes all the links) and one should beable to trade Symphonie with consistancy.

As to methods you have several different variations to choose....Symphonie Basic, Symphonie RealJumper Method, Symphonie with 15 min confirmation, or Symphonie 60-5. (All these methods can be used in any timeframe and any currency pair.) The whole point is you must choose which method fits your trading style.

Evalautor.:nerd:
  • #11,335
  • Apr 18, 2012 5:11am Apr 18, 2012 5:11am
Quoting Fame of me
My thanks go to Dyekid217 and his template.
For me it is really clear.
Thanks.

My first trade today.
h1 show short.
in M5 i got my entry and cut my position on the S1.
Now the reast i will let run.

Thanks Dyekid217 for your time.
my pleasure
  • #11,336
  • Edited 5:59am Apr 18, 2012 5:40am | Edited 5:59am
I know for most (myself included) the price action of the past few days has been most frustrating and confusing but one you look at the larger picture one is able to bring into focus what is actually happening. If you look at the screenshot below one can begin to understand exactly what is happening that helps to clear up much market indecision.

This is a very complex price action that is working itself out as I have outlined in my past post #11131 ,post #10761 ,post #10453 that ties to post #10174 that ties to post #7158 concerning the Expanding Triangle pattern.

This have been made more complex by the addition of a large head and shoulders pattern with a very stubborn neckline at the 1.30600 level.

I believe that once this 1.30600 finally breaks we shall finally see completion of the 4th touch point of the expanding triangle to the 1.26500 to 1.2700 level. (The drop size of the head and shoulders pattern should equal the distance from the top of the head to the neckline (about 450 pips)) Then be follow by a rally in euro to the 1.3800 area to complete the final 5 touch point of the expanding triangle which is the C of a large corrective wave that began in late December of 2011. This 5th touch point should equal roughly the 61.8 fib over the top of the head or touch point 3 as 3 is 61.8 fib larger than 1 and so 5 is also the same size increase. The most concerning part is that the longer this price action takes to play out the high and high the end levels of the expanding triangle become as I have shown.

So, as one can see even in graphic form this is a very difficult pattern that is playing out and one must have patience as the market works its way through. Just let Symphonie be your guide for the end point turns and you should profit greatly.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #11,337
  • Apr 18, 2012 6:03am Apr 18, 2012 6:03am
Quoting Evaluator
Zingers,

Who cares that one of the indikators in Symphonie repaints!!!?? Not me... the point is that at the time of the signal there is a shift in market price action and Symphonie is telling you to take a position because there will be price action directional change. However, it does require the trader to do some work and recognize the pattern that has formed and understand why it is important for one to take that position.

RealJumper is correct. Since the start of this thread Symphonie has not changed the basic principles by which this system...
Evaluator

I think you may be slightly missing the point I am making Evaluator.

By improving on another of the repainting indicators within the matrix improves the "quality" of overall signal. We are not looking for the "Holy Grail" here as two of the indicators will still repaint.

We all know that the trader is required to do some work and recognize the pattern that has formed and whether it is important or not but the SuperTrend nrp mtf Alert - does exactly the same as Symphonie Trendline Indikator v3.0 with one major exception ....IT DOES NOT REPAINT!

At least give it a try.

But obviously the final decision is yours. Thanks for the system.
  • #11,338
  • Apr 18, 2012 6:06am Apr 18, 2012 6:06am
eventually it may be updated.. I'm not sure if olivia rj yelena or eval are testing it though..
  • #11,339
  • Apr 18, 2012 6:07am Apr 18, 2012 6:07am
Quoting Zingers
Evaluator

I think you may be slightly missing the point I am making Evaluator.

By improving on another of the repainting indicators within the matrix improves the "quality" of overall signal. We are not looking for the "Holy Grail" here as two of the indicators will still repaint.

We all know that the trader is required to do some work and recognize the pattern that has formed and whether it is important or not but the SuperTrend nrp mtf Alert - does exactly the same as Symphonie Trendline Indikator v3.0 with one major exception ....IT...

Best of luck!

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #11,340
  • Apr 18, 2012 6:18am Apr 18, 2012 6:18am
Quoting Evaluator
I know for most (myself included) the price action of the past few days has been most frustrating and confusing but one you look at the larger picture one is able to bring into focus what is actually happening. If you look at the screenshot below one can begin to understand exactly what is happening that helps to clear up much market indecision.

This is a very complex price action that is working itself out as I have outlined in my past post #11131...
Food For Thought....

As you have seen in my explaination my thought on future price action in EURUSD. However, here are some events that are coming up that will have an effect on EURUSD price action.

USA Tax day
Portugal and Spain Bond Auctions
General Elections in France
General Elections in Greece
Greece Tranche Payments
USA Federal Reserve (operation twist) ends
Summer traditions rise in fuel prices
Summer slowdown in Stockmarkts
General Election in USA

All these events are happening or going to happen and will have a direct effect on the EURUSD. Can you see the pattern? Can you see exactly how my predicted price action fits these market events perfektly-???

Kinda scarry if you ask me because it just shows me there is a higher power running the show.....

Evaluator.:nerd:
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