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  • #11,281
  • Apr 17, 2012 12:44pm Apr 17, 2012 12:44pm
PA is junk, damn!
  • #11,282
  • Apr 17, 2012 12:47pm Apr 17, 2012 12:47pm
Quoting Dyekid217
yeah I didn't just get in the trade though.. I'm just saying that when I manage my trades and exits it really depends on discretion.

the exit is the hardest part of trading and I've been refining it successfully over the past few weeks
For all newbie Can you say one by one what are you doing when you make trade
with Symphonie Trader System. Because I everyday reading your post and sucsess trade.

This is not critic or exam. Just I want learn succses trade with this wonder system.
Please forgive me if you dont like my post.
also If someone show to this thanks a thousandfold
I have read Pdf file also Rj' file
  • #11,283
  • Apr 17, 2012 1:28pm Apr 17, 2012 1:28pm
Quoting ozgsnr
For all newbie Can you say one by one what are you doing when you make trade
with Symphonie Trader System. Because I everyday reading your post and sucsess trade.

This is not critic or exam. Just I want learn succses trade with this wonder system.
Please forgive me if you dont like my post.
also If someone show to this thanks a thousandfold
I have read Pdf file also Rj' file
I'm just trading using the rules from post 1 with my own variation of exits.. Each trader has their own style.. I can't go with you step by step for each trade because each trade is different. You need to find what works for you.. because what one trader does may not work for another. Same concept as if you give someone an instrument they're going to play it differently. Understand?

Just keep studying the system in a live market and you will eventually learn the money flow of forex... Price action is the true indicator you need to follow.. all of the other indicators are just for confirmation
  • #11,284
  • Apr 17, 2012 2:04pm Apr 17, 2012 2:04pm
Thank you. I understand.

In fact, just how do you make with Symphony? So, I mean you watching 1hr Tf
and waiting with many pairs matrix alarm and continue the 5mn Tf or only you watching 5Tf and opening position with Rj' s "How I Trade M5 and M1 Charts" Pdf rules.

Just I wanted ask somthing like that. Why Im asking this stupid questions with all my shame? Bc I can do with this system on screenshot with all nice indicator. But
live different. I need somthing like that tip.

Again and again thank you.
  • #11,285
  • Apr 17, 2012 2:34pm Apr 17, 2012 2:34pm
Quoting Fame of me
ok, i as a newbie in this thread have now a big problem.

i want to trad 60 to 5 methode.

and now i have the all 4 indis in the matrix have repaintet back 5 hours, how i have to handle this?
Sorry, but its impossible if you are using v3.01 to have the whole of the matrix repaint back 5 hours. The top row in the new matrix does not repaint at all, once the bar has closed, then it stays that colour. If you're using the old matrix, where it could do that far back, then change to v3.01.
  • #11,286
  • Apr 17, 2012 2:36pm Apr 17, 2012 2:36pm
Quoting ozgsnr
For all newbie Can you say one by one what are you doing when you make trade
with Symphonie Trader System. Because I everyday reading your post and sucsess trade.

This is not critic or exam. Just I want learn succses trade with this wonder system.
Please forgive me if you dont like my post.
also If someone show to this thanks a thousandfold
I have read Pdf file also Rj' file
Put the matrix v3.01 on your 1hr chart, and a 5min chart. Wait until you get a full signal (closed bar) on the 1hr and then switch to the 5min and take the trades in that direction (full signal on 5min) until the signal changes again on the 1hr. Exits are discretionary as all exits in all systems, you can use pivots, you can use fib ratios or you can just take 10 pips, its entirely up to you.
  • #11,287
  • Apr 17, 2012 2:48pm Apr 17, 2012 2:48pm
ok so I just found out that my broker (trading-point) stopped accepting us clients and closed most of the accounts.. I never got a notice of this until I just tried to deposit another $1k and they asked for my documents again. I sent them an email and requested a withdrawal of funds. I saw that some others never got the notice and got their funds back so I'm not worried.. but now I won't be able to trade for the rest of the week -_-.. and I just signed up with mbtrading but they don't offer equity bonuses.. so I'll just have to trade straight up with my money.. could have been alot easier to make profits.

what a pain the cftc is
  • #11,288
  • Apr 17, 2012 2:51pm Apr 17, 2012 2:51pm
Quoting ozgsnr
Thank you. I understand.

In fact, just how do you make with Symphony? So, I mean you watching 1hr Tf
and waiting with many pairs matrix alarm and continue the 5mn Tf or only you watching 5Tf and opening position with Rj' s "How I Trade M5 and M1 Charts" Pdf rules.

Just I wanted ask somthing like that. Why Im asking this stupid questions with all my shame? Bc I can do with this system on screenshot with all nice indicator. But
live different. I need somthing like that tip.

Again and again thank you.
Dyekid only trades the 1hr taking 1hr
signals and does not go on the 5min at all.
  • #11,289
  • Apr 17, 2012 2:55pm Apr 17, 2012 2:55pm
Hello All,
Thanks to Evaluator and all of you for the education you have provided with your contributions to this thread.
I arrive here after studying the work of Jacko, James 16, Acumen, DanUK, PipEasy, Greg Wilson, Nomask, Lawgirl, Eelfranz, X-Man, Phx62, Vantage and dcginc. I’ve read the thread from the introduction of the 60-5 method, and have read the posts (and many posts after them) signposted in post 1.
It’s the usual story from someone reading a long thread for the first time: some posts don’t seem significant when first read, and the information is not retained. Later however, you realise the subject matter is very significant so, before my second read-through, I hope you don’t mind the odd question.
Dyekid (and RJ and any of the seniors), a few hundred pages ago you said you were going to use the TDI rather than Stochs because you were used to it from Eelfranz’s thread. RJ has certainly sold us all on the use of Stochs. They’re both oscillators. Is there that much difference? Also, X-Man dropped Stochs because they kept him out of some profitable trades in his Super Simple System.
On my 5-minute chart I have the Symphonie Matrix Indikator v3.0.1 (Old sentiment) and the Symphonie Matrix Indikator ESv3.0 to show the matrix from the 1-hour chart. What would I see if I didn’t have the Symphonie Autorefresh v3.0 loaded on to the screen? (That is, can I lighten the load on my processor by not having the autorefresh?)
Thanks,
Kan
Thanks for your help, warmth and straight talking Heather.
  • #11,290
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:00pm Apr 17, 2012 3:00pm
Quoting Kanderpro
Hello All,
Thanks to Evalutor and all of you for the education you have provided with your contributions to this thread.
I arrive here after studying the work of Jacko, James 16, Acumen, DanUK, PipEasy, Greg Wilson, Nomask, Lawgirl, Eelfranz, X-Man, Phx62, Vantage and dcginc. I’ve read the thread from the introduction of the 60-5 method, and have read the posts (and many posts after them) signposted in post 1.
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Somebody quite a while ago suggested the TDI but we have never considered it after looking at it vs the stoch. The stoch has been invaluable if used how RJ has pointed out in his PDF.

The autorefresh is needed because the sentiment/emotion repaint and sometimes the trendline repaint badly so you need to know before going in that the signal is still there and if it is then you go in.
  • #11,291
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:05pm Apr 17, 2012 3:05pm
Quoting Fame of me
right right .

BUT the 60-5 say, wait in h1 for a signal.

soo hafter 2 hours in buy i wait on a new one.
matrix the hole day in mix. no signal.
THEN 19h (my broker time) he print back 5 hours all sell.

So, when i go now in m5 in sell, when i got a signal, maybe it is not to late for the trade?
have i ignore that he repaint so badly back?
Which matrix version are you using?
  • #11,292
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:05pm Apr 17, 2012 3:05pm
yes I did use the TDI but it never shows you when price is actually overbought/oversold.. I've learned how to use stochastics and am in love with it.. but unfortunately I can't trade for the rest of the week most likely since I have to change my brokers.
  • #11,293
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:16pm Apr 17, 2012 3:16pm
hi guys i had another h1 sell signal on eur/usd.... i'm already in for some hours.... waiting for the break off the treend line and a break off the 200 sma... near the daily pivot.... we will see.....
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  • #11,294
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:21pm Apr 17, 2012 3:21pm
Quoting ohammond
Put the matrix v3.01 on your 1hr chart, and a 5min chart. Wait until you get a full signal (closed bar) on the 1hr and then switch to the 5min and take the trades in that direction (full signal on 5min) until the signal changes again on the 1hr. Exits are discretionary as all exits in all systems, you can use pivots, you can use fib ratios or you can just take 10 pips, its entirely up to you.

Thanks a lot. I used matrix v3.0.1(old sentiment) I understand I have to use
matrix v3.0.1 .... Not (old sentiment).
  • #11,295
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:24pm Apr 17, 2012 3:24pm
Quoting ozgsnr
Thanks a lot. I used matrix v3.0.1(old sentiment) I understand I have to use
matrix v3.0.1 .... Not (old sentiment).
Then all four indicators can't have repainted 5 hours back because the Tvi2 (extreme) does not repaint at all once the bar is closed.
  • #11,296
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:26pm Apr 17, 2012 3:26pm
Quoting timf1979
hi guys i had another h1 sell signal on eur/usd.... i'm already in for some hours.... waiting for the break off the treend line and a break off the 200 sma... near the daily pivot.... we will see.....
Not just the daily pivot, but the weekly pivot and monthly S1 are all within 10 pips of each other.
  • #11,297
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:28pm Apr 17, 2012 3:28pm
damm its gonna take a lot off bear charge to break it down.....

Quoting ohammond
Not just the daily pivot, but the weekly pivot and monthly S1 are all within 10 pips of each other.
  • #11,298
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:35pm Apr 17, 2012 3:35pm
Can be useful to whom.....
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  • #11,299
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:43pm Apr 17, 2012 3:43pm
Quoting Dyekid217
yes lee.. sometimes I find that gold price lags a little bit though.. when currencies usually jump instantly when the dollar falls. But gold takes a bit to price it in.. not sure why

btw when I said exits are based on discretion I really mean that.. i've been trading with stochastics and symphony quite succesfully by spotting divergence.

Right now EU has bullish divergence so my Sl is below the swing low and I'm holding until eihter I get stopped out or I feel that PA is starting to change
directions
Hi Dyekid

Isnt that a bearish divergence?
  • #11,300
  • Apr 17, 2012 3:54pm Apr 17, 2012 3:54pm
Quoting munirpt
Hi Dyekid

Isnt that a bearish divergence?
Yes it is, I hadn't noticed that post.
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