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Forexhard and the rest of you guys you just dont deserve to lose your time with those who dont appreciate you work. Ignorance is a bless. If i was you i would simply ignore those people and keep going.

Although i havent posted more charts i still use your method and i am really thankful that you shared your work with us (and SQ for making the indicator).
Happy easter and all the best for you!

One advice for the newbies - it is all in the thread. I went trough the whole thread twice already and i think ill do it again soon, just in case. Invest some time - its worth it.

forexhard, you've been around the block, you know that people are different and some people are much more different than the others!

Thanks guys. I appreciate the support, and I appreciate the supportive PM's you guys have been sending me too.

The strongest message I am hearing back, is that you guys really do understand and appreciate the toughness I have shown during the course of the thread in keeping out the time wasters. This was always one of my number one goals, and I knew it would create lots of friction with the prima donnas and the guys too lazy to study the system for themselves. But I wanted this thread to be the one place here at the Factory that taught a solid system ONLY. The people who don't "get that" are the ones that spend all their time at the kiss-ass threads. Which is fine. I've got no problem with how other (legit) threads are run. The trouble only starts when those guys come in here and expect to be spoon fed like at the other places.

They also don't grasp why this system is different than the others. Which is because I posted an actual Forex trading system with a 5-year continuous track record. I didn't post a theoretical system, and I haven't been asking for advice on how to make it better, and I think this is what bugs people most of all. They think that since I am posting on an open forum that they have the right to come in here and make changes or add indicators, etc., which I have firmly stopped every time. And because of this more than half a dozen of these guys have started copycat threads since last summer. Two of them got started by the same guy just yesterday. All because they want to change a system that they actually don't even understand. They just want to be heard, and they think I haven't given them a proper hearing, so they take their compaints some place where I have no control and start screaming their lungs out. It's happened before, and I suppose it will happen again.

I know we don't get a lot of posters in here. But we do get 40,000 hits per month on average. So I know several thousand people are reading these pages on a regular basis. There are people reading and re-reading the entire thread, and still coming away with new information each time. Stuff that didn't make sense the first time through, or stuff that got skimmed over. I've heard this from several people now so I have no reason to doubt it.

One last thing. When you all keep your charts to yourself, that's when my charts seem like the only ones here, and to a noob it seems like I'm just making up my results from thin air. I know that's not true, and so do all of my regulars. But if more of you guys posted charts, then a lot of the nonsense would go away. Something to think about as you hoard all your pips away from prying eyes!

FxH

Hi Forexhard and gang,

I hate being one of "those" guys who reads the thread halfway and makes a comment (plan on finishing actually). I noticed, correct me if I am wrong, you guys are using the indy to show the CZ's and making tweeks here and there to find and ideal setting, but would it be better to do it manually/visually and then compare it to the indy. I have not tried this yet because I plan on doing it manually first and posting the charts here to see if I am getting the CZ's right.
I hope I am explaining my self correctly. I will worry about TP and SL later. I first want to see if I am looking at what the market is clearly telling me or seeing what I want to see.

One thing that stuck with me as read the thread was Forexhard saying you can never predict the price. It clicked for me because so many chart patterns and indys I have used for confirmation just shot me in the foot.

Off to finish the reading and note taking.

Forexhard, I dont mind your criticism, silent treatment, etc as some put it. I see it as tough love

Hello Hale-Mary, and welcome aboard.

The first 8 posts of the thread describe an actual trading excercise which everyone needs to do in order to really get a sense of the system as a whole. If you have just skimmed over this part, then I recommend that you go back and start over. It's not just meant to be read, it's meant to be applied manually across several pairs and several time frames of those pairs. You should allot one full week of self-training for this one step alone. One week is nothing. This is the type of naked trading I did for 2 years before having any indicators made. But one week is enough to learn how to identify CZ's at a glance. This is your confidence building step. If you pass it over, then you can't expect to have confidence for what comes after.

In short, if you really spend an entire week on just this one excercise, all your other questions will have been answered as well.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes.

Hey ForexHard,
I have read your whole thread and I have to say I love your teaching style. Some people may not view it as teaching but if a person has everything handed to him on a silver platter he learns very little.
It seems like you want us to learn that success comes from study and application, instead of reading and copycating.
I must admit I have blown an accnt. or two and was getting to the place where I wasn't sure if my belief that I could become a successful trader would ever come to fruition. Thanks to you I have hope again.

Thanks,CZ-T

I've made some updates to the first post...

New to this thread this weekend. Awesome job Forex Hard!! Into my first trade on demo acct. so far so good!!!

THANKS FOR THE GREAT SYSTEM

Since i use this system and with the help of the SQ indi i've become a very profitable trader and confident. I combine this system with my Money Management and UNAGRESSIVE MARTINGLE. Here how i trade using this system and my MM.

1. I used the box setting of 0.20 from daily range. meaning if i loss 5 times in a row that means i lost the whole daily range.

2. If it happend which is rarely, i increase the lot size by dobel. exp: 1,2,4,8. ( One of my friend use FIBO MARTINGALE LOT exp : 1,1,2,3,5,8 etc )

3. I lock profit every time the trading goes in my favour according to the Indicator. if the first TP level is achieved, then i move my SL to BEP. if the profit move to the next level then i move my SL to the first level. on and on and on.

With this i almost have nothing to fear about losing too much money and the fear of UNORGANIZED and BAD MARTINGALE has gone from my system. Because sooner or later the trade has to go to a trend sooner or later. I really have to thank you for this and squolu for making this happen for a poor and humble trader like me. LOL

Thanks once again.

PS : I shared your system with my friend and he used lot compunding instead with MM of 2 persen. and he is making a nice progress too. We mainly trade using this system for commodities such as gold and silver and it works like a magic too!!!.

For any coder who can make and EA based on Forexhard system and SQ indi and my MM for sure will be banned from any broker because it has been proven to be such a great system. I would call it FOREXHARD SQ BREAK THE BROKER MARTI IN A CERTAIN WAY EA. Hahahaha LOL.

Oh yes ...it's a sure thing so far. and please post the EA when you're done.

THANKS FOREXHARD!!!!!

I drew my own cz zones. Look pretty good???

This is exactly what I needed to read. Thank you.

Inputs per alert, or just the first?

I'm not sure exactly what you meant by input per alert? first? are you talking about the EA or about my MM?

I believe he is talking about the EA. If the price moves outside of the Consolidation and gives a buy/sell signal, and later comes back and touches the consolidation region, only to fail and continue in the direction of the initial buy/sell, then the EA gives another buy/sell signal. I think this is what he is referring too.

Sorry, it caused a translator. This is me on Alerts. Indicator.

only the first alert indicator or any alerts?

Is someone trying to make an EA for us now? If yes, who ever the coder is, please PM me for details.

PM sent.

Cheers

Sorry i am no coder. But have a friend who can do it for me. It's just the setting is not just right yet. If it's done then i'll be more than happy to post it here. So everybody can use it or experiment it.

Cheers

I don't know if you got my PM because i checked my SENT folder and it's still empty.