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  • #25,541
  • Edited 5:14pm Apr 7, 2012 4:09pm | Edited 5:14pm
Man You hit a nerve!! It's ramped!!

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  • #25,542
  • Apr 7, 2012 4:53pm Apr 7, 2012 4:53pm
nice posts, Chilly. ........still working at the hard-wiring.

hermit........thanks. here is one to think about; Spain

maybe another LTRO is already in the works........or not, and it is plan B. reticular information tells me this is shtf caliber

LTROs line up squarely with 3 year and under sovereign paper (bonds), but completely missed the boat on 10s so either someone at the ECB f*&ked up with the calculations and figured on anther 3 weeks (sarcasim) that comes up short on bad math or the planners are scrambling to launch another money barge.

reticular information is also telegraphing to me that the credibility of policy makers/central banks is rapidly becoming a factor in all of the mess and unless this fire gets put out very quickly the Euro may be on its way DOWN.

i wonder if the SNB will just stand aside in the event of another debt front being opened up?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/spain-...y-presentation
  • #25,543
  • Apr 7, 2012 5:05pm Apr 7, 2012 5:05pm
What a mess, eh? Oh, well, I'll be able to buy that windmill real cheap, jeez, they might even pay me to take it of their hands. Up keep on public monuments can be a bugger for a sliding economy. I'll insist that the horse and lance come with it. . Jousting at windmills, what a world we live in.
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  • Apr 7, 2012 5:30pm Apr 7, 2012 5:30pm
God Bless and Happy Easter to all.....

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  • #25,545
  • Edited 5:50pm Apr 7, 2012 5:39pm | Edited 5:50pm
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I'll be able to buy that windmill real cheap
assuming there is no European version of robo signing, right.

if the misses are as wide as the article implies then extrapolate right across Europe and the Pound may get pounded too.

i don't know...........i do know it is all beginning to look like gross incompetence and smell like layers on layers of lies and half truths that are assuming a dangerous and very un-natural weight and if it unravels then look out below.

maybe this is the TOP of the equity market (S&P, DOW NAS) and is a brilliant place to sell)

maybe the time for the BIG write-down and reset for debts is fast approaching?

should be an interesting week and month as weekend conferences get rapidly reconvened to address SPAIN

SPAIN needs an atomic money bomb.

PS.....hermit, the so-called Firewall is really nothing more than intellectual cotton candy so, there is NO firewall. it is all perception management and i wonder how far it can be stretched..........one of the other things i picked up about Greece was the 'young and educated' biding their time to come to the forefront of political reform.........in other words waiting out the collapse of the existing and corrupted political establishment so as not to be stained too early and discredited by association.

you may be right about the social changes. i hope so.
  • #25,546
  • Apr 7, 2012 6:12pm Apr 7, 2012 6:12pm
a few closing thoughts;

the Bernake speech on the 13th that inferred another QE was probably by design

and the recent FOMC minutes that inferred the opposite was also by design

the only truth in this market is manipulation.
  • #25,547
  • Apr 7, 2012 8:51pm Apr 7, 2012 8:51pm
Quoting roro53
..........one of the other things i picked up about Greece was the 'young and educated' biding their time to come to the forefront of political reform.........in other words waiting out the collapse of the existing and corrupted political establishment so as not to be stained too early and discredited by association.

you may be right about the social changes. i hope so.
That sounds encouraging. If you've got a bunch of sick bastards running things, then "replacement therapy" would be a good ploy. After all, it's not the old guards world anymore and its time for a change of the guards to the young - its their world now - I wish them well cleaning up our mess. Hopefully they can put a little peer pressure on the young elite to sway them to a better set of ethics.
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,548
  • Apr 7, 2012 9:06pm Apr 7, 2012 9:06pm
Quoting roro53
a few closing thoughts;

the Bernake speech on the 13th that inferred another QE was probably by design

and the recent FOMC minutes that inferred the opposite was also by design

the only truth in this market is manipulation.
You know, as a trader, I don't care that the markets are manipulated, as long as they print support and resistance I'm good to go .
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,549
  • Apr 7, 2012 9:14pm Apr 7, 2012 9:14pm
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You know, as a trader, I don't care that the markets are manipulated, as long as they print support and resistance I'm good to go

good point, hermit........the "I don't care" part.........not buying that bit though.
  • #25,550
  • Apr 7, 2012 9:48pm Apr 7, 2012 9:48pm
LOL you caught me on that one. In terms of trading, I don't care, in terms of life you bet I do and not afraid to do my bit to make the world into what I prefer. Never sell one's self short. To steal one from Steven Tyler (I think) - "Don't sweat the petty parts and don't pet the sweaty parts" and your pretty much good to go in life.
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,551
  • Apr 7, 2012 10:00pm Apr 7, 2012 10:00pm
I apologise for the brief intrusion, I bring tea, biscuits and this evenings news. I am curious what some in this thread may think if inclined to take a look.
I'll now go back to my day job at the members lounge.
Thanks.
http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.c...446&ec=4858126
Come with me if you want to live....
  • #25,552
  • Apr 7, 2012 11:23pm Apr 7, 2012 11:23pm
Quoting Ill-b-back
I apologise for the brief intrusion, I bring tea, biscuits and this evenings news. I am curious what some in this thread may think if inclined to take a look.
I'll now go back to my day job at the members lounge.
Thanks.
http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.c...446&ec=4858126
i agree with him 100% msyelf think whe are gonna start rally in gold and silver soon again i see more analyst getting bearish now. And gold is based more on hope so selling in stocks brings panic. People go more gold etc.

just checked the nationial debt clock probally not many look at it but how many days whe reach 16trill i think before month end
http://oddhammer.com/tutorials/debt_clock/
  • #25,553
  • Apr 7, 2012 11:49pm Apr 7, 2012 11:49pm
Quoting Ill-b-back
I apologise for the brief intrusion, I bring tea, biscuits and this evenings news. I am curious what some in this thread may think if inclined to take a look.
I'll now go back to my day job at the members lounge.
Thanks.
http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.c...446&ec=4858126
.......All I can say is .......wow.......what a future for our kids, no wonder Jim Rogers say on his book to "My childrens", teach mandarin to your kids, lol............
The Chonchy
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  • Apr 7, 2012 11:57pm Apr 7, 2012 11:57pm
Quoting fxhermit
LOL you caught me on that one. In terms of trading, I don't care, in terms of life you bet I do and not afraid to do my bit to make the world into what I prefer. Never sell one's self short. To steal one from Steven Tyler (I think) - "Don't sweat the petty parts and don't pet the sweaty parts" and your pretty much good to go in life.

words of wisdom there.......teach me how to do forex well, and I will help you change the world together........we will change it into what you prefer, I know is going to be ok.......I know.....
The Chonchy
  • #25,555
  • Apr 8, 2012 12:17am Apr 8, 2012 12:17am
Quoting Chillypiper
I've tryed to watch this guy ( the show 'The young Turks) a few times....I still think he's a morron.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIGlF...yer_detailpage


Heres how I see it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=UJjnaYCt1mk
.......And Here is the solution.......

http://www.electrobikeusa.com/media/...003/EB-003.jpg
The Chonchy
  • #25,556
  • Apr 8, 2012 12:19am Apr 8, 2012 12:19am
Quoting ingmarforex
i agree with him 100% msyelf think whe are gonna start rally in gold and silver soon again i see more analyst getting bearish now. And gold is based more on hope so selling in stocks brings panic. People go more gold etc.

just checked the nationial debt clock probally not many look at it but how many days whe reach 16trill i think before month end
http://oddhammer.com/tutorials/debt_clock/
........Is that clock rolex or patek pillipe? ingmarforex

that is outrageus man, and with all the printing they can't stop that clock.........outrageus corruption.......
The Chonchy
  • #25,557
  • Apr 8, 2012 12:24am Apr 8, 2012 12:24am
Quoting Chillypiper
I'm sure you know damn well! And this chaps my hide too.......... We pomass Americans much rather depeat everyone else's resounres before we use (if ever) our own...

And, like you say, after the fat cats and politions line their pockets, there will be little left to pass it of to the public to either country..Look at what happen in Brazil with BP and Cheveron......It's a joke, but the media is payed of, so we don't hear about one more misadventure of our f-ed up goverment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CYq7LQZm8Ow...
the cut off the video, it can't be heard anymore, I wonder why.......
The Chonchy
  • #25,558
  • Apr 8, 2012 12:30am Apr 8, 2012 12:30am
Quoting Chillypiper
I'm sure you know damn well! And this chaps my hide too.......... We pomass Americans much rather depeat everyone else's resounres before we use (if ever) our own...

And, like you say, after the fat cats and politions line their pockets, there will be little left to pass it of to the public to either country..Look at what happen in Brazil with BP and Cheveron......It's a joke, but the media is payed of, so we don't hear about one more misadventure of our f-ed up goverment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CYq7LQZm8Ow...
good video, the first one, chilly.......... thanks
The Chonchy
  • #25,559
  • Apr 8, 2012 12:32am Apr 8, 2012 12:32am
Quoting fxhermit
Oh god, Chillipiper, don't get me started on the pipeline thing . The way some of us see it up here is: Why in the hell are we shipping our oil thousands of miles through a tornado belt and into a huricane zone for refinement then having the finished product returned to us at great cost of dollars, environment and jobs. For Christs sake, aren't we capable of refining it ourselves and then shipping it out value added. Nope, not according to our politicians who continue to subsidize big oil with 100's of millions of taxpayer dollars and 100's of millions...

......still the solution is.......simple

http://www.electrobikeusa.com/media/...003/EB-003.jpg
The Chonchy
  • #25,560
  • Apr 8, 2012 1:00am Apr 8, 2012 1:00am
I love the bikes, Chonchy, but we have winter up here so maybe the vehicle needs to look like this .... the electric model of course. Then again, one of the advantages that we have is the "natural fridge" .
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