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  • #25,521
  • Apr 6, 2012 12:23pm Apr 6, 2012 12:23pm
.........wow I step aside and the thread takes off, well the electrobike show at Tropical Park was a success, a lot of potential customers, and the models were awesome (my daughters, lol)

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  • Apr 6, 2012 12:26pm Apr 6, 2012 12:26pm
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  • #25,523
  • Apr 6, 2012 1:35pm Apr 6, 2012 1:35pm
Quoting chonchy
.........wow I step aside and the thread takes off, well the electrobike show at Tropical Park was a success, a lot of potential customers, and the models were awesome (my daughters, lol)

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  • #25,524
  • Apr 6, 2012 1:37pm Apr 6, 2012 1:37pm
Second quarter what i do
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  • #25,525
  • Apr 6, 2012 3:26pm Apr 6, 2012 3:26pm
Quoting ingmarforex
Second quarter what i do
........Nice plan ingmarforex, in deed........
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  • #25,526
  • Apr 7, 2012 1:04am Apr 7, 2012 1:04am
........price drop by inertia, or gravity, then is being pump up again, because that 30M candle can only be taken up like that by a bank me think, and then it will drop again because of panic, world economy people panic and sales other assets and buy dollars thinking is the safest asses I wonder what is going to happen when they find out the real state of the dollar and his pier..........

......that is why I think there is no other strategy than the one fxhermit use, hit and run, rinse and repeat, no position trading no buy and hold, none of that, hit and run is the name of the game, other wise you never know where the market is going, or supose to go........

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  • #25,527
  • Apr 7, 2012 11:56am Apr 7, 2012 11:56am
Quoting chonchy;5550162 <br /> ......that is why I think there is no other strategy than the one fxhermit use, hit and run, rinse and repeat, no position trading no buy and hold, none of that, hit and run is the name of the game, other wise you never know where the market is going, or supose to go........<br /> <br /> [ATTACH
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Well, I do agree with you Chonchy that hit and run, rinse and repeat can be a good way to go but let's not negate other trading styles regardless of the wankyness of the market. It's all the different approaches that collectively make the market. Even market manipulation is a part of the overall picture. You see, in my humble opinion, markets today are really not that much different than they have always been - trend and consolidate, trend and consolidate ........... I think its just that the consolidate parts can sometimes frustrate the hell out of us especially if they go on for a while.

One of the reasons why I'm such a dyed in the wool preacher about S/R levels is that I find it to be a way of giving me some clarity of market wave action and a consistent premise to trade around, a let the market come to me approach. Of course its not a perfect approach, as we all know, nothing really is but I feel it does up the chance of probabilities being in my favour. You see, the banksters (market makers) at certain times can not contradict their own actions (laws of physics) with out being detrimental to themselves - that is to me an important edge that can be exploited. They have no choice but to open the vault doors in order to do their business. S/R helps me to identify when they do and hints at price direction as well.

On the attached M30 chart I've shown various S/R levels D1, H4 and H1. Seldom do I mark current chart levels on the current timeframe, prefering instead to see the levels created on the next higher timeframes as I find them to be more significant. I've used the M30 here because Chonchy likes it as a trigger chart so thought it would make sense to show the S/R levels on it but the premise holds true for any timeframe. One can get carried away and draw levels to the point of ridiculousness so I try to be a bit restrained and draw only the obvious ones. Often times the levels will overlap and/or show confluence and often times they are honoured well into the future - go figure, eh?

The thing that I like about S/R trading (also known as swing trading) is that almost any technical trading system or methodology can be "bolted" onto it to give trade signals within it's context (that's an edge). That basically sums up my approach and why I'm so preachy about S/R - although I'll be the first to admit that its not everyones cup of tea.
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  • #25,528
  • Apr 7, 2012 1:54pm Apr 7, 2012 1:54pm
Chillipiper just posted this on another thread and I thought it well worth reposting here. Thanks Chilli

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  • #25,529
  • Apr 7, 2012 1:55pm Apr 7, 2012 1:55pm
Quoting fxhermit
Well, I do agree with you Chonchy that hit and run, rinse and repeat can be a good way to go but let's not negate other trading styles regardless of the wankyness of the market. It's all the different approaches that collectively make the market. Even market manipulation is a part of the overall picture. You see, in my humble opinion, markets today are really not that much different than they have always been - trend and consolidate, trend and consolidate ........... I think its just that the consolidate parts can sometimes frustrate the hell out...
nice support and resistance there....
  • #25,530
  • Apr 7, 2012 1:59pm Apr 7, 2012 1:59pm
Here's the fluffy new age version . Nope ... I'm not affiliated with these folks .... but the concept is sound.

http://www.mindmovies.com/inspiratio...php?episode=27
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,531
  • Apr 7, 2012 2:01pm Apr 7, 2012 2:01pm
Quoting SnaveForex
nice support and resistance there....
S/R, ah, at last, the holy grail
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,532
  • Apr 7, 2012 2:11pm Apr 7, 2012 2:11pm
watched the THRIVE you posted hermit........very interesting and nicely done. maybe that is why you are hopeful for 'social change' in the right direction.........maybe a template for it too. looks like it has a lot to offer in a constructive and positive way.

i also like your perspectives on the trading. thanks.
  • #25,533
  • Apr 7, 2012 2:20pm Apr 7, 2012 2:20pm
Glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting fxhermit
Chillipiper just posted this on another thread and I thought it well worth reposting here. Thanks Chilli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEpV2...layer_embedded
  • #25,534
  • Apr 7, 2012 2:25pm Apr 7, 2012 2:25pm
Quoting fxhermit
S/R, ah, at last, the holy grail
hey coupled with price action....viola the holy grail.....
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  • Edited 2:41pm Apr 7, 2012 2:26pm | Edited 2:41pm
I've tryed to watch this guy ( the show 'The young Turks) a few times....I still think he's a morron.....

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Heres how I see it!

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  • #25,536
  • Edited 3:46pm Apr 7, 2012 3:22pm | Edited 3:46pm
Oh god, Chillipiper, don't get me started on the pipeline thing . The way some of us see it up here is: Why in the hell are we shipping our oil thousands of miles through a tornado belt and into a huricane zone for refinement then having the finished product returned to us at great cost of dollars, environment and jobs. For Christs sake, aren't we capable of refining it ourselves and then shipping it out value added. Nope, not according to our politicians who continue to subsidize big oil with 100's of millions of taxpayer dollars and 100's of millions more in conscessions. While the oil companies make billions the country's debt spirals out of control and the job market continues to deteriorate. What the hell is that all about??
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,537
  • Apr 7, 2012 3:39pm Apr 7, 2012 3:39pm
Quoting roro53
watched the THRIVE you posted hermit........very interesting and nicely done. maybe that is why you are hopeful for 'social change' in the right direction.........maybe a template for it too. looks like it has a lot to offer in a constructive and positive way.

i also like your perspectives on the trading. thanks.
Ya, I guess I'm a bit of a sucker for that sort of thing - the old hippy showing through, I guess, you know the old mantra "Peace, Love and spare change?"

Your posts are always good brain fodder and enjoy reading them as I do Condor's. Various perspectives and points of view are certainly what makes the world and its no different in the markets. To me, that's why its such a fascinating game. Psychology, sociology, anthropology and archeology are all a bunch of "ologies" that turn my crank for some reason, go figure? I think certain principles of psychology and sociology certainly are applicable to markets that's why I found Chillipiper's vidoe post interesting. For any trader, mindset is an important tool to be honed, I have no doubt about that, so I try to persue it a little in that fashion.
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,538
  • Apr 7, 2012 3:44pm Apr 7, 2012 3:44pm
I'm sure you know damn well! And this chaps my hide too.......... We pomass Americans much rather depeat everyone else's resounres before we use (if ever) our own...

And, like you say, after the fat cats and politions line their pockets, there will be little left to pass it of to the public to either country..Look at what happen in Brazil with BP and Cheveron......It's a joke, but the media is payed of, so we don't hear about one more misadventure of our f-ed up goverment...

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Quoting fxhermit
Oh god, Chillipiper, don't get me started on the pipeline thing . The way some of us see it up here is: Why in the hell are we shipping our oil thousands of miles through a tornado belt and into a huricane zone for refinement then having the finished product returned to us at great cost of dollars, environment and jobs. For Christs sake, aren't we capable of refining it ourselves and then shipping it out value added. Nope, not according to our politicians who continue to subsidize big oil with 100's of millions of taxpaer dollars and 100's of millions...
  • #25,539
  • Apr 7, 2012 3:52pm Apr 7, 2012 3:52pm
Quite frankly, the solution is probably rather simple. We already screen people as to their suitability for certain professions. We should simply do the same for those who wish to be politicians or ceo's. A straight forward test to check for sociopathy or psychopathy would suffice. In an ideal world of course ..................
Stay calm, be brave, wait for the signs - Jasper Friendly Bear
  • #25,540
  • Apr 7, 2012 4:00pm Apr 7, 2012 4:00pm
You Nailed it ! Theres a video posted here a few months back ( I'll try and dig it up) that covered that exact thing..Yes! Politicians, CEO's and future spouse's

Psychopaths are very much in all the above mentioned unfurtunlly...


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Quoting fxhermit
Quite frankly, the solution is probably rather simple. We already screen people as to their suitability for certain professions. We should simply do the same for those who wish to be politicians or ceo's. A straight forward test to check for sociopathy or psychopathy would suffice. In an ideal world of course ..................
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