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  • #32,821
  • Edited 8:45am Mar 29, 2012 8:18am | Edited 8:45am
Quoting traderathome
1. If Weekly is down, NO(!), the price does not have to go that way!
2. Yes, moves start with the smallest TFs and grow from there.

What you must understand is that charts are history only! Each new day, once the BBs come out to play, the price will move "their way". And, believe me, "their way" doesn't have to have anything to do with the price history shown on charts! Each new day starts a whole new ballgame!

And when GU prices break the lower TL shown, the Profiteers are going to blow your 1.62xx prediction all to hell!...
You are right about the ballgame Tah , they are experts in this especially in all gbp and usd pairs.I use those sma to avoid the fake moves they make , it is really nice to use them.Make me a favour and check 10, 50 and 200 sma crosses on your 1H , 4H charts and look at audyen move today.These sma help a lot combined with sonic system.
Again check them on gbpusd on 1h, you will see that the drop below 200 sma is still just fake, because 10 sma havent crossed 200 sma yet .
When 10 cross 50 I will go long, when it crosses 200 I will go short on 15 M for intraday.
Wonder what u think ?
By the way what do you think about euraud, can I have a volume and wave analyze on that
  • #32,822
  • Mar 29, 2012 8:29am Mar 29, 2012 8:29am
bad news for US about unemployement claims but US still strong? anyone can tell me why?
  • #32,823
  • Mar 29, 2012 9:20am Mar 29, 2012 9:20am
i need some info about this situation. i already take long position @1661.40. where should i take sl and tp? is my entry point right? thx
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  • #32,824
  • Mar 29, 2012 9:43am Mar 29, 2012 9:43am
Quoting Conorado
i need some info about this situation. i already take long position @1661.40. where should i take sl and tp? is my entry point right? thx
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You would best take the advice already given to you BEFORE you start trading, you already stated you have lost a lot of money, if you continue doing what you are doing BEFORE you learn what to do, your results will continue. All your questions and much more have already been answered in this thread and many others.

If you want to learn about volume, search here on FF for VSA threads and start reading. There are some explanations in this thread also.

2 months is NOTHING, you have a TON of information to try and learn, and you are not going to do it by asking a few questions here. 95% of traders fail, and many of them have been trying for YEARS, not 2 months. You need to exercise some patience if you want to succeed, not sure if you have heard the expression, "only fools rush in", it applies to trading in a BIG way and many people lose money over and over to learn this lesson.

Take the advice already given to you, and trade DEMO for awhile not with real money until you are making PROFITS on demo consistently.

Best of luck to you
  • #32,825
  • Mar 29, 2012 10:11am Mar 29, 2012 10:11am
Quoting Conorado
i need some info about this situation. i already take long position @1661.40. where should i take sl and tp? is my entry point right? thx
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Donīt take my word only.
Many others traders here have a lot more experience.
But I donīt understand why you buy there.
For me your signal are wrong.
Please follow above advise about read more before trade.
  • #32,826
  • Mar 29, 2012 10:42am Mar 29, 2012 10:42am
ok, i appreciate ur advice.. i learn much from this threat. i'll trade the demo first until i really understand how to use sonic r system. keep trading and good luck. may green pips be with u.. ^_^
  • #32,827
  • Mar 29, 2012 11:16am Mar 29, 2012 11:16am
Quoting Conorado
ok, i appreciate ur advice.. i learn much from this threat. i'll trade the demo first until i really understand how to use sonic r system. keep trading and good luck. may green pips be with u.. ^_^
pls dont get me wrong in giving you this. you have to do your HOMEWORK before you get your feet wet.
hope this helps.


LATEST VOLUME STUDY POSTED BY SONIC
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=1839
POSTS: #27574 #27576 #27577

INTRO TO SONICR AND SUPPORT AND RESISTANCE POSTED BY DD & HANS
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=1585
POSTS: #23765 #23767

BEST TEMPLATE CONTRIBUTOR TAH:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post4785975

SENSIBLE FE SETUP BY HANS:
Fib Settings
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...83#post4857183

How to set the fib tool
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...49#post4863149

Hans Fib Example Chart
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...2&d=1311107318
  • #32,828
  • Mar 29, 2012 11:24am Mar 29, 2012 11:24am
Quoting Conorado
i'll trade the demo first until i really understand how to use sonic r system. keep trading and good luck. may green pips be with u.. ^_^
This is a very wise decision my friend. Everyone has to pay for their Education, and some will pay much much more than others. And then others never stop paying!

Take your time for sure this is key, trading is not easy, simple in theory once you know the theory, and there is a lot to learn, not easy in execution however. Human emotions among other things get the best of many who could have been good traders.

You have come to a good place to learn as you suspected, cheers and good reading to you.
(remember too, no one wins a race by starting at the end, there are no shortcuts )
  • #32,829
  • Mar 29, 2012 1:07pm Mar 29, 2012 1:07pm
Good day TAH,I have a little idea about how u can improve sonyc chart panel
I think will be better on eye and for price actions concetrations ,personal vertical line distract from price actions if looking at chart for hours...if u will short the vline like u did for RDL/RDH,it will be great improve.
because a picture is worth than 1000 word please look at this little idea for such great system ( http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...74#post5508574 )

Regards,
ExpresID
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  • #32,830
  • Edited 2:05pm Mar 29, 2012 1:47pm | Edited 2:05pm
Quoting traderathome
1. If Weekly is down, NO(!), the price does not have to go that way!
2. Yes, moves start with the smallest TFs and grow from there.

What you must understand is that charts are history only! Each new day, once the BBs come out to play, the price will move "their way". And, believe me, "their way" doesn't have to have anything to do with the price history shown on charts! Each new day starts a whole new ballgame!

And when GU prices break the lower TL shown, the Profiteers are going to blow your...
Wholy crap Tah, those comments really scares people like Sam Seiden, me and others making a living from this. Maybe we can all apply for a day job since there is no hope for us anymore in this market, when we cannot read price action from old data.

Anyway your beloved dragon...does it not rely on "historical data" to guide you in to your trades ?

Just a thought.

"maybe the guy in the video also trades forex, he has Be...break even on his t-shirt... or maybe he just want to be in the number...BB number...

Regards,
H.

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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #32,831
  • Edited 4:02pm Mar 29, 2012 3:34pm | Edited 4:02pm
Quoting Conorado
hi guys, i'm 25 years old from indonesia. i can't speak english well, so sorry if my language make u rather confuse.
i'm a new trader (just 2 months ago), i make many mistakes and lost so much money, then i read this thread from about 2 weeks ago. i'm so interest with sonicdeejay and TAH's posting. this sonic r system is sooo fantastic.
i have some noob questions that i confuse about it:
-can u explain to me how to combine the using of dragon,PA,and volume? espesially the volume.
-how u determine if it will long or short from volume?
by the...
Hey Conorado, I am an Indonesian too. I just started out in forex as well, i traded stock previously and decided to move over to forex because the profit here is big but it's a big risk too.. I just found out Sonic system and is well to page 26 already, I must thank Sonic and all the contributers in this thread for making a wonderful system, I have been trading 2 days demo with the system and with quite a profit. Keep it up.
  • #32,832
  • Mar 29, 2012 4:05pm Mar 29, 2012 4:05pm
Quoting alrightfrank
pls dont get me wrong in giving you this. you have to do your HOMEWORK before you get your feet wet.
hope this helps.


LATEST VOLUME STUDY POSTED BY SONIC
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=1839
POSTS: #27574 #27576 #27577

INTRO TO SONICR AND SUPPORT AND RESISTANCE POSTED BY DD & HANS
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=1585
POSTS: #23765 #23767

BEST TEMPLATE CONTRIBUTOR TAH:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post4785975

SENSIBLE FE SETUP BY HANS:
Fib Settings
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...83#post4857183

How...
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  • #32,833
  • Mar 29, 2012 4:14pm Mar 29, 2012 4:14pm
Quoting Conorado
ok, i appreciate ur advice.. i learn much from this threat. i'll trade the demo first until i really understand how to use sonic r system. keep trading and good luck. may green pips be with u.. ^_^
don't quote me on this, but i believe traderathome has mentioned that reading the first 50 pages and the last 50 recent pages of the thread will give you a good idea of whats going on.

cheers
  • #32,834
  • Mar 29, 2012 5:09pm Mar 29, 2012 5:09pm
Quoting hansma
Wholy crap Tah, those comments really scares people like Sam Seiden, me and others making a living from this. Maybe we can all apply for a day job since there is no hope for us anymore in this market, when we cannot read price action from old data.

Anyway your beloved dragon...does it not rely on "historical data" to guide you in to your trades ?
Regards,
H.
Here is what I said,....

"What you must understand is that charts are history only! Each new day, once the BBs come out to play, the price will move "their way". And, believe me, "their way" doesn't have to have anything to do with the price history shown on charts! Each new day starts a whole new ballgame!"

I think you are smart enough to know exactly that. And therefore, your attempt to make out like that is not so, is disturbing. Just because there is a S&R area or TL ahead of a directional move does not mean price will reach it. Anything can happen to interrupt the "logical flow of events". If it were otherwise, we'd all be rich. "Hey, PA just left this S&R area headed up,.....so, I'll just buy it and make my TP this S&R area up here!"

This is why so many people fail in this business It isn't that simple. There is no law that says because PA has left one S&R area, that it must achieve the next. And the proof is in the fact that new S&R areas are created because PA did not make it to old ones!

I just love it the way you jump into this thread, never posting a "real-time" trade, but always at hand to throw out a sarcastic remark and make fun of the Sonic R. System that uses the Dragon, together with PA, to locate an entry area that is delayed enough to avoid most headfakes, yet still benefit from momentum.

-tah
  • #32,835
  • Edited 7:01pm Mar 29, 2012 5:21pm | Edited 7:01pm
Quoting expresid
Good day TAH,I have a little idea about how u can improve sonyc chart panel
I think will be better on eye and for price actions concetrations ,personal vertical line distract from price actions if looking at chart for hours...if u will short the vline like u did for RDL/RDH,it will be great improve.
because a picture is worth than 1000 word please look at this little idea for such great system ( http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...74#post5508574 )

Regards,
ExpresID
Thank you for your suggestion.

Until PA actually reaches the vLines denoting the Sonic R. System trading interval, any PA you are watching shouldn't be requiring so much focus on your part. Yes, a picture is worth a 1000 words. So prior to PA reaching the vLines, take a glance and take it all in. It is not yet time to take any action. Anyway, as a built in feature you can turn off the vLines if they are too distracting for you. Just look at the clock to see when the various markets open.
  • #32,836
  • Mar 29, 2012 7:06pm Mar 29, 2012 7:06pm
Quoting Conorado
ok, i appreciate ur advice.. i learn much from this threat. i'll trade the demo first until i really understand how to use sonic r system. keep trading and good luck. may green pips be with u.. ^_^
Welcome, Conorado. As Noobguy said, I suggest you read the first 25-50 of Master Sonicdeejay's posts. Then jump forward and read the last month or so, of all posts. Most importantly, start off by reading all of Post#1, including all of the material linked in post#1.
  • #32,837
  • Mar 29, 2012 8:12pm Mar 29, 2012 8:12pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Can I have it like that?
Kinda Late for a short and Kinda early for a Long..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISCIPyGzne8

Sonic
14 hrs later.. Told cha..Yet again, another successful bottom picking brought to you by sonicdeejay

Some 1 post the both pics (before and after)


Sonic
  • #32,838
  • Mar 29, 2012 8:26pm Mar 29, 2012 8:26pm
Before and after.

EDIT: I was thinking of placing a trade too... It Failed to break a major resistance level for short (and weak US numbers), but had to keep saying 'no' and stick to the system.... Its hard, but didnt win or fail, and somewhat better to sticking to system of SonicR
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  • #32,839
  • Edited 9:11pm Mar 29, 2012 8:49pm | Edited 9:11pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
14 hrs later.. Told cha..Yet again, another successful bottom picking brought to you by sonicdeejay
Some 1 post the both pics (before and after)

Sonic
What message are you sending, Master?

Successful bottom picking, yes. So, are you saying that we should have considered a SC long trade down there? Because the PA wave pattern was not proper for a classic SonicR long setup, nor was the time proper for entry at the EP area. And otherwise, picking tops and bottoms is not what Sonic R. is about. Right?

So, what exactly are you saying/suggesting? I'm serious about my question, Master, because too much focus on tops/bots, hence focus on SCs, has an insidious way of getting us off the track of the classic Sonic R. trade. Wouldn't it be best to just forgoe this focus on tops/bots and just be patient for a classic Sonic R. trade?

I'm just trying to understand why you keep pointing such things out, instead of pointing out when you see that perhaps a classic Sonic R. setup is forming.
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  • #32,840
  • Edited 10:54pm Mar 29, 2012 10:10pm | Edited 10:54pm
Quoting traderathome
What message are you sending, Master?

Successful bottom picking, yes. So, are you saying that we should have considered a SC long trade down there? Because the PA wave pattern was not proper for a classic SonicR long setup, nor was the time proper for entry at the EP area. And otherwise, picking tops and bottoms is not what Sonic R. is about. Right?

So, what exactly are you saying/suggesting? I'm serious about my question, Master, because too much focus on tops/bots, hence focus on SCs, has an insidious way of getting us off the track of the...
Gents,

I want to emphasis on the phrase again, “no setup no trade.”

What I was trying to drive here is “Trade what you see”..

At that time, The price was purging down, all news talk about Spain, Euro weak again blah blah…Every tom, dick and harry has a short or just open a short position….

But as a soniker, I am different.. I saw a big vol coming in when it hit Double Bottom here, which make me realize that possible stopping vol coming in..It was near 1.328xx…

That info prevent me from adding short or opening new short…
In the other hand it was still early for me to Long as it is way below Dragon and waves are not up.. So I waited…

It went down further till 1.325x.. My unsuspecting fellas must have add more shorts…but I am not..

That why as I always like to say, Too late for a short, Kinda early for a long…

I wait for the proper set up.. It linger around 1.325x to 1.327x for a while and finally it created Classic Sonic Long set up.. The entry is ironically 1.328x.. with very good R:R of SL below 1.324x.. with first TP 1.334x..


Well.. The mkt already show u the rest.. Now My Long is SL @ BE with TP1 taken…

In summary, I do predict top or bottom, to prevent me, from opening impulsive trades (following the herd) and it prepare me wait for a highly profitable entry with very good R:R…



Cheers…

Sonic



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