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  • #10,181
  • Mar 28, 2012 3:21pm Mar 28, 2012 3:21pm
Quoting Skip2k
Are you sure?
Skip2k,

i noticed that after i posted. guess it's one of those occasions when oversight consistently recurs once it's occurred. i must have checked 3-4 times before i posted and missed it each time

however, the atr input is not there. or am i missing that too...

thanks.
  • #10,182
  • Mar 28, 2012 3:37pm Mar 28, 2012 3:37pm
Quoting pgd
Skip2k,

i noticed that after i posted. guess it's one of those occasions when oversight consistently recurs once it's occurred. i must have checked 3-4 times before i posted and missed it each time

however, the atr input is not there. or am i missing that too...

thanks.
Only CCI affects the trend direction. ATR is not necessary in this case, only in Trendline Indikator.
  • #10,183
  • Mar 28, 2012 3:45pm Mar 28, 2012 3:45pm
Quoting Evaluator
For those that have been following my analysis from post #7158 concerning the Expanding Triangle pattern here is an update. As you can see from the chart below the market has been in very rough over the past few days. It is important to understand that this is a very complex correction formation in EURUSD price action and will continue to be difficult until complete resolution of the 5 point expanding triangle is finished.

Currently, EURUSD is in the process...
Grande Eval
  • #10,184
  • Mar 28, 2012 3:48pm Mar 28, 2012 3:48pm
Quoting Skip2k
Only CCI affects the trend direction. ATR is not necessary in this case, only in Trendline Indikator.
fine.
  • #10,185
  • Edited 5:37pm Mar 28, 2012 3:59pm | Edited 5:37pm
Today, Exit strategy 3 would have worked very nicely. It tends to ignore choppy market at some point.

Does anyone tried to use not 60-5 but 30-5 Symphonie method ? As 30 more flexible than 1H.


Edit: Ok i get it now. 60-5 is sort of trading according to waves.
  • #10,186
  • Mar 28, 2012 7:14pm Mar 28, 2012 7:14pm
Quoting itsallover
You bet he does! Thanx RJ

I tried this and and finally trading is bliss!
So it's all quiet o the western front now Kelly? Glad to be able to help
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #10,187
  • Mar 28, 2012 7:23pm Mar 28, 2012 7:23pm
Quoting maudur
RJ, I understand than Manilaspurs want to execute matrix 1.6.1. It indicator use Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_indikator, but the original version of it indicator have a little problem that I corrected. If Manilaspurs or other don't want some alerts from Extreme Cycle Indicator need to select alertsExtreme = 3 in the matrix 1.6.1, but need to use the Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_indikator corrected.

The problem in the original version of Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_indikator was with the alerts. In the original version if you select to see only sell alerts, appears...
I just commented out the offending Alerts at their root, which is in Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_Indikator, and there is no more Alerts and no more problem
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #10,188
  • Mar 28, 2012 9:54pm Mar 28, 2012 9:54pm
Quoting migmac
maudur

thank you, it did work!
Your welcome migmac.
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  • #10,189
  • Mar 28, 2012 10:02pm Mar 28, 2012 10:02pm
Quoting maudur
Your welcome migmac.
yes guys its working perfect now.

great thanks to maudur and RJ
  • #10,190
  • Mar 29, 2012 2:52am Mar 29, 2012 2:52am
Looking at the 60 - 5 method folks, I have seen suggestions on the 60m signals as being a full symphonie signal, the last signal or just rj arrow. Im presuming the full signal would be the strongest but are either of the other 2 particually risky?
  • #10,191
  • Mar 29, 2012 3:03am Mar 29, 2012 3:03am
Quoting Mackem10
Looking at the 60 - 5 method folks, I have seen suggestions on the 60m signals as being a full symphonie signal, the last signal or just rj arrow. Im presuming the full signal would be the strongest but are either of the other 2 particually risky?

Mackem10,

A Symphonie 60-5 signal is when you have a 60 min Symphonie Signal that is followed by a 5 min Symphonie Signal.

That is a full Symphonie 60-5 signal.

Evalutor.:nerd:
  • #10,192
  • Edited 4:48am Mar 29, 2012 4:21am | Edited 4:48am
Hi Eval

As you may have noticed for the last 2 hours or so, EU was choppy and giving false 5m signals (all 4 indies red or blue)
Eventually it went against the 1 H signal and is now on its way down (I hope)
How do you cope when you get 4 indies full blue - buy (trade up) then you get 4 indies full red - sell (trade down )
Would you keep both trades open that you have been forced to open (hedging) and wait for a true break to cancel one or just strengthen the confirmation requirments before setting a trade in the first place (but how would you know the signals are false in the first place to have to strengthen your confirmation??)
It hurts me to cancel a trade only to see it go my way 5 mins later, so I consequently end up with this hedge positioning more often than not

You also would not know its ranging until you have at least two trades activated and hedging as in my case
Some people may just keep on closing and opening trades due to opposite signals but thats wasteful
hope you understand my question and your system is great
  • #10,193
  • Mar 29, 2012 4:51am Mar 29, 2012 4:51am
Hi all,

unfortunately in this system there are 3 indicators that repaint... The only one that doesn't repaint is Trend indicator. Is there any chance to get this indicators without repainting (yeah i know almost impossible probably :/)

Regards
  • #10,194
  • Mar 29, 2012 4:56am Mar 29, 2012 4:56am
Quoting peterporter
Hi Eval

As you may have noticed for the last 2 hours or so, EU was choppy and giving false 5m signals (all 4 indies red or blue)
Eventually it went against the 1 H signal and is now on its way down (I hope)
How do you cope when you get 4 indies full blue - buy (trade up) then you get 4 indies full red - sell (trade down )
Would you keep both trades open that you have been forced to open (hedging) and wait for a true break to cancel one or just strengthen the confirmation requirments before setting a trade in the first place (but how would you...
Yes. Price action has been very tough over past 18 hours. I have not faired very well on these 40 pip wide whipsaws....
  • #10,195
  • Mar 29, 2012 5:13am Mar 29, 2012 5:13am
Quoting e473194
Hi all,

unfortunately in this system there are 3 indicators that repaint... The only one that doesn't repaint is Trend indicator. Is there any chance to get this indicators without repainting (yeah i know almost impossible probably :/)

Regards

Suggest you go find another system because to make that statement says you need to search elsewhere. It also demonstrates your ability to not beable to read. READ THE THREAD before asking questions like that because if you READ THE THREAD; you would know how STUPID your question!

P.S. READ the THREAD!
  • #10,196
  • Edited 5:30am Mar 29, 2012 5:18am | Edited 5:30am
Quote
Originaly posted by peterporter
Hi Eval

As you may have noticed for the last 2 hours or so, EU was choppy and giving false 5m signals (all 4 indies red or blue)
Eventually it went against the 1 H signal and is now on its way down (I hope)
How do you cope when you get 4 indies full blue - buy (trade up) then you get 4 indies full red - sell (trade down )
Would you keep both trades open that you have been forced to open (hedging) and wait for a true break to cancel one or just strengthen the confirmation requirements before setting...

You may try to use system with accordance on 30min TF. It's pretty aggressive method but more flexible with determining of price direction in such choppy movement. I've attached todays example. Also it is reasonable to keep TP around 10-15 as this example is aggressive and sort of deviate from 60-5 method. Also there's indie in this thread, that shows arrow in different TF. And, Evaluator, please excuse me for deviation from your method. Just posting some helpful opinion (if it helps).
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  • #10,197
  • Mar 29, 2012 5:20am Mar 29, 2012 5:20am
Quoting Evaluator
... It also demonstrates your ability to not beable to read. READ THE THREAD before asking questions like that because if you READ THE THREAD; you would know how STUPID your question!

P.S. READ the THREAD!
Come on Eval. He/she discovered something. :nerd: Let him/her enjoy the moment.

Regards,
Blackeagle
  • #10,198
  • Mar 29, 2012 5:23am Mar 29, 2012 5:23am
Quoting Blackeagle
Come on Eval. He/she discovered something. :nerd: Let him/her enjoy the moment.

Regards,
Blackeagle

Oh NO! You mean some of the indikators repaint???

  • #10,199
  • Mar 29, 2012 5:32am Mar 29, 2012 5:32am
In your 1st post you state that only Extreme and Sentiment repaint so just for information: Emotion repaints too. And if you mean that some repaint - yeah 3 of 4 indicators repaint. As I'm sure that there is no problem with Extreme indicator repainting I think that Emotion+Sentiment both repainting is certainly not a good sign, even if you have some system that requires 4 indicators to go in the same direction.
Btw. You can have good results using this system not because it's great by itself but just because you have overall good feeling of the market.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
  • #10,200
  • Edited 5:55am Mar 29, 2012 5:43am | Edited 5:55am
Quoting FXflag
You may try to use system with accordance on 30min TF. It's pretty aggressive method but more flexible with determining of price direction in such choppy movement. I've attached todays example. Also it is reasonable to keep TP around 10-15 as this example is aggressive and sort of deviate from 60-5 method. Also there's indie in this thread, that shows arrow in different TF. And, Evaluator, please excuse me for deviation from your method. Just posting some helpful opinion (if it helps).
Thanks for your advice fxflag, I will look into that as another option ,
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