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  • #616,341
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:03pm Mar 27, 2012 1:03pm
Quoting lolygagv2
It's actually been proven that this "cash" sitting on the sidelines is a MYTH. Where is this cash going to come from, most investors who HAVE money are already heavily invested, and the common person has been decimated. It's a myth!
you could be right.... the "cash" is basically theorized to be due to cash hoarding from companies like Apple, and other big corporations (not a myth last time i checked) and the banks but banks don't create cash they create credit, and the credit crunch and bad derivative debt is what lead to this environment as TRILLIONS of dollars of losses are still being unwind, the housing market has not liquidated the debt yet.

and the liquidity provided in theory is to prevent contraction due to the >debt to capital ratio, which will be paid back as and drained as real capital is created...however with such a weak economic growth the efforts of the FED have been TOO EFFECTIVE...that to me is fishy.
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  • #616,342
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:08pm Mar 27, 2012 1:08pm
Eurusd,

Long. T.P: 1.33778
S/L: 1.32880
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  • #616,343
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:11pm Mar 27, 2012 1:11pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
Yeah, you're right. I guess one of the last arrows left in the quiver is a rate hike.

We have three scenarios, inflation, deflation and hyperinflation, (not counting the most ideal scenario of disinflation, which would be the optimal ideal but is also the least feasible)...and averting hyperinflation at all costs should be of utmost importance...

So i guess what you're saying is barring all of his statements of prolonged rate suppression, he's prepared to be as nimble as possible, in other words hiking the rates in the midst of a policy which...
he is in a very bad conundrum to say the least.

Ideally the FED would be combating hyperinflation, job growth, deflation, stagflation or whatever other term that might happen domestically.....that alone is a monumental task.

Now the FED is the WORLD CENTRAL BANK, so the FED has to deal with the Triffin paradox, as well as the fact that as the GLOBAL economic crisis warrants other CB's to debase, the US cannot be allowed to appreciate because the US also needs to debase.

the problem though is that if everyone debases then you get global inflation
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  • #616,344
  • Edited 1:24pm Mar 27, 2012 1:22pm | Edited 1:24pm
Quoting the redlion
he is in a very bad conundrum to say the least.

Ideally the FED would be combating hyperinflation, job growth, deflation, stagflation or whatever other term that might happen domestically.....that alone is a monumental task.

Now the FED is the WORLD CENTRAL BANK, so the FED has to deal with the Triffin paradox, as well as the fact that as the GLOBAL economic crisis warrants other CB's to debase, the US cannot be allowed to appreciate because the US also needs to debase.

the problem though is that if everyone debases then you get global inflation...
You know, it's quite concerning to think about the quantitative easing (whether true or not, QE3 more than likely has been performed already and just wasn't mentioned) and real inflation that might ensue.


Just looking at our national debt is mind-boggling.
If you delve deep enough, there are actually talks that the whole fundamental structure is in peril.

Since the U.S. is primarily a net importing economy, a rate hike wouldn't sound too bad in the near term.
Learn to see what's there, not what you want to see.
  • #616,345
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:22pm Mar 27, 2012 1:22pm
LOL ....America's candidate for the next leader of the World Bank is against economical growth. http://t.co/sZZbzloZ
  • #616,346
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:25pm Mar 27, 2012 1:25pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
You know, it's quite concerning to think about the quantitative easing (whether true or not, QE3 more than likely has been performed already and just wasn't mentioned) and real inflation that might ensue.


Just looking at our national debt is mind-boggling.
If you delve deep enough, there are actually talks that the whole fundamental structure is in peril.

Since the U.S. is primarily a net importing economy, a rate hike wouldn't sound too bad in the near term.
George Soros said the same thing bout the fundamental structure therefore he suggested one world currency
  • #616,347
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:25pm Mar 27, 2012 1:25pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
You know, it's quite concerning to think about the quantitative easing (whether true or not, QE3 more than likely has been performed already and just wasn't mentioned) and real inflation that might ensue.


Just looking at our national debt is mind-boggling.
If you delve deep enough, there are actually talks that the whole fundamental structure is in peril.

If global inflation isn't quelled, certainly it won't be quelled in any easy manner... then the 8 million ton elephant has to come into mind...DEFAULT.
Been hearing this from 2009, up until now. Yet, we're almost at the 2007 high...
  • #616,348
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:25pm Mar 27, 2012 1:25pm
Quoting gsbotes
George Soros said the same thing bout the fundamental structure therefore he suggested one world currency
That bastard...
  • #616,349
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:28pm Mar 27, 2012 1:28pm
Quoting pkimnyc
Been hearing this from 2009, up until now. Yet, we're almost at the 2007 high...
We're almost at the 2007 high because of all the quantitative easing rounds (money printing) that has been so violently let loose.

The stock market prices NATURALLY HAVE to come up. It's a form of equilibrium.

A true rise has to be seen as a rise in value. This rise in stock prices has been a rise to meet equilibrium with the monumental increase in money supply.

This isn't a true rise in VALUE. This is what's concerning.
Learn to see what's there, not what you want to see.
  • #616,350
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:28pm Mar 27, 2012 1:28pm
Quoting Sunnyland
Eurusd,

Long. T.P: 1.33778
S/L: 1.32880
100 pip sl?
  • #616,351
  • Edited 1:32pm Mar 27, 2012 1:29pm | Edited 1:32pm
Quoting gsbotes
George Soros said the same thing bout the fundamental structure therefore he suggested one world currency
Well we better not let him have his way. Or else, no more forex.

Edit: anyway, that's so unrealistic. The world better wisen up and not let that happen. First because a statement like that from one man alone who actually made his fortune trading forex is purely ridiculous.
Second: it won't work. You can't have multiple countries use one single currency just for the sake of fair pricing and unit measurement.
Just look at the Euro, those are 16 countries already having immense trouble using a single homogenous currency...and you think a world filled with more than 100 countries will successfully make it work? That's ridiculous.
Learn to see what's there, not what you want to see.
  • #616,352
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:31pm Mar 27, 2012 1:31pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
We're almost at the 2007 high because of all the quantitative easing rounds (money printing) that has been so violently let loose.

The stock market prices NATURALLY HAVE to come up. It's a form of equilibrium.

A true rise has to be seen as a rise in value. This rise in stock prices has been a rise to meet equilibrium with the monumental increase in money supply.

This isn't a true rise in VALUE. This is what's concerning.
I'm sure we will see the top again, but until it (chart) tells me we've topped. I don't really care whats been driving the price. My main concern: whether I make profit or not. Not the fundamental reasons behind the moves. In other words... Just go with the flow.
  • #616,353
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:34pm Mar 27, 2012 1:34pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
Well we better not let him have his way. Or else, no more forex.
Yip , and just "printing more money" i believe is just short term fix as there is absolutely no value attached to it. Thats why alot of investors may argue to get the gold system back in place but then also include platinum
  • #616,354
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:35pm Mar 27, 2012 1:35pm
Quoting pkimnyc
I'm sure we will see the top again, but until it (chart) tells me we've topped. I don't really care whats been driving the price. My main concern: whether I make profit or not. Not the fundamental reasons behind the moves. In other words... Just go with the flow.
Don't get me wrong my friend. I also just want to make money and do not care which way the flow goes, just as long as we catch it, i'm a trader, after all.

However, i was having a purely fundamental conversation.
Learn to see what's there, not what you want to see.
  • #616,355
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:37pm Mar 27, 2012 1:37pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
Well we better not let him have his way. Or else, no more forex.

Edit: anyway, that's so unrealistic. The world better wisen up and not let that happen. First because a statement like that from one man alone who actually made his fortune trading forex is purely ridiculous.
Second: it won't work. You can't have multiple countries use one single currency just for the sake of fair pricing and unit measurement.
Just look at the Euro, those are 16 countries already having immense trouble using a single homogenous currency...and you think a world...
agreed , but he said something bout imports and exports that will be the main kind of trade.. ill try to find the link then you can watch the interview
  • #616,356
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:38pm Mar 27, 2012 1:38pm
Quoting TraderBoyFF
Don't get me wrong my friend. I also just want to make money and do not care which way the flow goes, just as long as we catch it, i'm a trader, after all.

However, i was having a purely fundamental conversation.
Yep. Price tells us, usually, whether we're screwed or not. And I, personally, don't see that sign yet.
  • #616,357
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:38pm Mar 27, 2012 1:38pm
Quoting pkimnyc
I'm sure we will see the top again, but until it (chart) tells me we've topped. I don't really care whats been driving the price. My main concern: whether I make profit or not. Not the fundamental reasons behind the moves. In other words... Just go with the flow.
hehe , what my signature says!!!
  • #616,358
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:39pm Mar 27, 2012 1:39pm
Quoting gsbotes
hehe , what my signature says!!!
Lol
  • #616,359
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:45pm Mar 27, 2012 1:45pm
Quoting pkimnyc
Yep. Price tells us, usually, whether we're screwed or not. And I, personally, don't see that sign yet.
We're actually entering a very dangerous time, at least pertaining the financial world as we know it.

This is a time when global perception will be the fulcrum of the fundamental system and will be critical going forward.

What i'm trying to say is, money is a form of unit measurement, measuring value. And when that system of measuring value is out-of-whack or unfair, a huge reset to the equilibrium could follow.

I just hope stability is maintained.
Learn to see what's there, not what you want to see.
  • #616,360
  • Mar 27, 2012 1:46pm Mar 27, 2012 1:46pm
Quoting aarontdang
That's totally wrong ..... " No More Moves " ....

I'm making $10/hr on forex

Everytime, I have + 10 Pips and let it run ..
always come back to BE .... This is BS
See what I mean? Lol

Technically we've got 1 more hour till ny closes, 2 more if you stretch it to 5pm close of daily candle. Unless we have some sort of miracle, it's safe to assume we go flat for the rest of the day.
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