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Quoting Mediator
my intention is to help traders. why not? just trade the system will not help.
you know this exactly that only trading the signals without looking deeper at the market will not work.
But if you have question, go ahead and ask. i have no problem to help.
The system (60 - 5) just made a lot of pips.......trading the system seems to be doing fine.

Are you trading the system?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
Quoting Mediator
anything can happen. sometimes there is no logical explanation. there are so many unknown components we could not know.
No. There is a logical explanation. The market doesn't move in this fashion for no reason. We will know the reason soon enough.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
Quoting realjumper
No. There is a logical explanation. The market doesn't move in this fashion for no reason. We will know the reason soon enough.
yes, i trade this system and maybe you understand me wrong.

every market move has a logical explanation. there are Buyers and Sellers.

Yes, at some time we will know the reason, but then the move is gone. this is why news are unimportant to anticipate for a bias. you could be right/wrong 50%.

but it doesn't matter what i say in your eyes, you do not like me is what i feel and everything i say is not correct. TOO BAD. but i don't care as long as someone other was helped with my explanations.
Quoting Mediator
my intention is to help traders. why not? just trade the system will not help.
you know this exactly that only trading the signals without looking deeper at the market will not work.
But if you have question, go ahead and ask. i have no problem to help.

Mediator,

I agree with RealJumper.....there is a reason Symphonie works.....and all one needs to do is trade the signals and follow the Rules that Symphonie has set in place. If you are not doing that then you need to find another thread because you are not trading Symphonie. Hence the name of the thread.

If you follow the rules and understand the concepts and different situational way to trade Symphonie you will (in the long run) be a consistantly profitable trader. All one has to do is read the thread and it have lots of examples and detained explainations plus many posts by people using the system and being successful.

But before one trades Symphonie you must be willing to put inthe effort to learn it and trade only demo account until you can build up a track record and become accustom to the workings and strategies developed.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Quoting yelena
i second!

this is just taking the system as is, although the H1 signal was spawned yesterday, i maximize by taking M5 signal to the direction of H1. par example:

99-41 EU = 42
21-65 GU = 44
87-06 AU = 19
total 105 pips, daily target hit, not stoppling yet. looking to sell or whatever symphonie signals in higher probability
hi yelena... how do you exit your trade?? I was in some trades with a 50 pip sl on the 5m but got an exit before they went anywhere.. two losses for -10 each
Man i woked up and i saw all big move up on major pairs.And i couldn't do anything i was too late.
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Quoting Mediator
yes, i trade this system and maybe you understand me wrong.

every market move has a logical explanation. there are Buyers and Sellers.

Yes, at some time we will know the reason, but then the move is gone. this is why news are unimportant to anticipate for a bias. you could be right/wrong 50%.

but it doesn't matter what i say in your eyes, you do not like me is what i feel and everything i say is not correct. TOO BAD. but i don't care as long as someone other was helped with my explanations.
So your explanations are gospel are they? You know everything and everyone should believe you without question should they? Why is that? Why do you have all the answers?

It wouldn't be such a bad idea if you just traded the system as the system, same as the rest of us, but I see from your charts that you have all manner of other indicators and stuff on your charts that are not part of this system.

Why don't you stick to the system and get familiar with it so that you can indeed help people instead of being a smart ass. I see you have been system hopping in your 200 odd posts, that doesn't bode well for your credibility as an expert on this system.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
Do you ever hade the feeling that the marked dont like you some dayes.
Thats how I feel right now.LOL

Been at work last night and then thought I could take some few hours sleep before trading.
Then coming to platform and see the last wagon leave the station without you.

Hmmm wait for the the next train.

Good luck to all.

I love to be in this thread and learn the symphonie inside out.

fratelli
Quoting Evaluator
Mediator,

I agree with RealJumper.....there is a reason Symphonie works.....and all one needs to do is trade the signals and follow the Rules that Symphonie has set in place. If you are not doing that then you need to find another thread because you are not trading Symphonie. Hence the name of the thread.

If you follow the rules and understand the concepts and different situational way to trade Symphonie you will (in the long run) be a consistantly profitable trader. All one has to do is read the thread and it have lots of examples and...
why the hell does you and RJ think that i'm a noob. nor the count of posts or the count of vouches tell nothing.
all i want is to explain the people outside what is behind the curtain and why symphonie works.
i never told that symphonie will not work. it doenst matter if it is called symphonie or you use indicator x or y. the important is the trademanagement and the mindset. if you do not understand this, then you have to learn alot.
the entry signals are second.
Quoting kumetto
Man i woked up and i saw all big move up on major pairs.And i couldn't do anything i was too late.
Never mind.....you didn't lose any money, and there will always be another trade right around the corner
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
Quoting realjumper
So your explanations are gospel are they? You know everything and everyone should believe you without question should they? Why is that? Why do you have all the answers?

It wouldn't be such a bad idea if you just traded the system as the system, same as the rest of us, but I see from your charts that you have all manner of other indicators and stuff on your charts that are not part of this system.

Why don't you stick to the system and get familiar with it so that you can indeed help people instead of being a smart ass. I see you have been...
your arrow and stochastic is also not part of the system, isn't it? i never told that i preach gospel, are you? i only share my experiences.
and i said in my last post if someone has questions go ahead and ask. i have no problem to help.
Quoting Mediator
why the hell does you and RJ think that i'm a noob. nor the count of posts or the count of vouches tell nothing.
all i want is to explain the people outside what is behind the curtain and why symphonie works.
i never told that symphonie will not work. it doenst matter if it is called symphonie or you use indicator x or y. the important is the trademanagement and the mindset. if you do not understand this, then you have to learn alot.
the entry signals are second.

I never said you were a noobie....I just said that sticking to the Symphonie System as designed works. Throwing all the other stuff you added just confuses people.

There is a principle that I try to follow....K:I:S:S keep it simple stupid....it is a model I always try to follow to keep things as simple as possible to avoid confusion.

GO back and re read your post that started all this....it is confusing and I do not fully understand your points after reading it three times.. and I am just an average trader.....I can only imagine what a noobie trader is thinking.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Quoting Mediator
your arrow and stochastic is also not part of the system, isn't it? i never told that i preach gospel, are you? i only share my experiences.
and i said in my last post if someone has questions go ahead and ask. i have no problem to help.
The arrow has proven itself to a lot of people long, long before you ever got here.....and stochastic has been proving itself since 1950.

Why don't you just pull your head in and trade the system for more than 5 minutes and get to know it properly, using only what is available from post 1. Then you might be in a better position to help people *trade the system*
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
Quoting yelena
there were buy signals right? no other signals in M5 right now. exited via "extreme" close of 4th bar.

@kumetto. you are not late. patience.
yeah they were buys at the frankfurt open but had to exit when extremes repainted to 4 red
The point is that,when i made this setup and trade on demo i saw that all good moves are arround 9:00 9:30.And i said to myself i will get that.But here we are.
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Quoting Dyekid217
yeah they were buys at the frankfurt open but had to exit when extremes repainted to 4 red

Just remember to watch your higher timeframes for guidence on overall trend direction.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Quoting realjumper
The arrow has proven itself to a lot of people long, long before you ever got here.....and stochastic has been proving itself since 1950.

Why don't you just pull your head in and trade the system for more than 5 minutes and get to know it properly, using only what is available from post 1. Then you might be in a better position to help people *trade the system*
Hola RJ ..
You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em ...
entering at the close of this candle would be correct right?

I'm in a long on AU as well
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Quoting yelena
they painted 4 red in M5? are you using 1,3,2? are you sure? do you have a screencap?

coz the signal was 8:55 GMT+2 in EU so the position was taken 9:00 which was a blue bar, and there was only 2 bear bars and the 4th was a super strong blue bar. they can't be red. probably 2 reds but not 4 reds. and even if they were 4 reds, we exit at the close of the 4th right? so that 1.3224, which is is still 21 pips up. how can that be a losing trade?
I'm sorry I might be referring to my EJ trade

where the white line is is where the extremes were all showing blue then a couple bars later the last 10-15 extremes were all repainted red so I exited


I took the arrow at 8:05 but at the time they were all blue... even at the close
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Quoting ohammond
No the arrow is there for confirmation of sorts, none of the people including realjumper who introduced the arrow to the thread wait for the arrow to take a trade.

There are a couple of distinct ways that most of us trade symphonie. There is the 60-5 which Evaluator came up with, he waits for a FULL signal on H1 so, all 4 indicators must be the same colour, then he takes every 5min signal to that direction (during his trading hours).

Then there is Yelena's (and quite a few of us trade the same way) look to the H1 for direction, you can use...
Thanks for this clarification.

On the 5min chart below with the signal showing the long, the extreme indicator was red, only when it broke the previous high it changed to blue. I know this is how the matrix works, but would like to know why I need to go long on that arrow or close to that?

What ohammond said is that Yelena doesn't wait for full confirmation before taking the trade? Then Yelena can you please tell how you determine your exits? Can someone assist.

I just trying to define clear rules for my trading. I prefer 5min charts to get full potential out of Symphonie.

Thanks

Chris
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