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  • #9,481
  • Mar 20, 2012 9:27am Mar 20, 2012 9:27am
Quoting X-Man
Could you give a breif exaplanation on the TMA slope indi thats attached.
I know more or less how it works but tell me more about how much it repaints by and by when does it shows that PA is trending etc.

X
Use tma only to see bias of price action (uptrend, downtrend, range )and that's all. for entry you use arrow in5m confirmed with arrow in 1h so no repaint .
You have more on tma on this thread
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=343533
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  • #9,482
  • Edited 9:47am Mar 20, 2012 9:31am | Edited 9:47am
today is the same shit as yesterday!
10 minutes kill all shorts of 8/10 hours.
this is stupid, irracional, no system work in this type market, only our know-how work.

i´m testing symphonie, and with confirmation we enter with very delay.
with no confirmation in range market we are killed.
  • #9,483
  • Mar 20, 2012 9:40am Mar 20, 2012 9:40am
Quoting X-Man
Could you give a breif exaplanation on the TMA slope indi thats attached.
I know more or less how it works but tell me more about how much it repaints by and by when does it shows that PA is trending etc.

X
To add on to what tehnobyte already said, I believe the slope indicator will repaint up to 56 bars back. At least that is the impression I got from reading the extreme TMA thread awhile back. I have used the indicator for a few weeks myself and have found it will a lot of times tell you you're in a trend well after the trend has started, meaning it will repaint back to the beginning of the trend as if it caught the entire trend. I'm not saying the indicator is bad, but it is not as good as it looks in hindsite due to repainting.
  • #9,484
  • Mar 20, 2012 9:46am Mar 20, 2012 9:46am
Quoting fxwall
today is the same shit as yesterday!
10 minutos kill all shorts of 8/10 hours.
this is stupid, irracional, no system work in this type market, only our know-how work.

i´m testing symphonie, and with confirmation we enter with very delay.
with no confirmation in range market we are killed.
I understand your feelings.
but look at this chart below.
Those trades are very good to my account.
Come back on the horse, I have also had huge problems with this strategy
traded on M5, but I am getting there.

The chart is EURAUD timeframe M5

Many gren pips to you.

fratelli
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  • #9,485
  • Mar 20, 2012 9:50am Mar 20, 2012 9:50am
Quoting MagicMike
To add on to what tehnobyte already said, I believe the slope indicator will repaint up to 56 bars back. At least that is the impression I got from reading the extreme TMA thread awhile back. I have used the indicator for a few weeks myself and have found it will a lot of times tell you you're in a trend well after the trend has started, meaning it will repaint back to the beginning of the trend as if it caught the entire trend. I'm not saying the indicator is bad, but it is not as good as it looks in hindsite due to repainting.
Thanks for the heads up , much appreciated.
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  • #9,486
  • Mar 20, 2012 9:50am Mar 20, 2012 9:50am
Quoting yelena
here.#8647 Symphonie 60-5. follow it to the dot and you wont have any losing trade.

have reasonable TP's cause no matter how flawless your entry is, if you cannot successfully exit it with a profit, then the entry is pretty much worth nothing.
As shown in the graph between in the direction of 1 H, when I go is when it gets extreme red and enters sold, you can see where my TP and SL touches.

At the time 5 minutes giving purchase does not enter into 1H because no order.

Can you tell me what I do wrong?
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  • #9,487
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:00am Mar 20, 2012 10:00am
sorry but what trades!
i don´t see any trades only one chart.

Quoting fratelli
I understand your feelings.
but look at this chart below.
Those trades are very good to my account.
Come back on the horse, I have also had huge problems with this strategy
traded on M5, but I am getting there.

The chart is EURAUD timeframe M5

Many gren pips to you.

fratelli
  • #9,488
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:15am Mar 20, 2012 10:15am
Quoting yelena
since you wont post your chart, il show you mine. on the H1 chart 6:00am (GMT+2) was the last H1 sell alert. now, on the M5 chart if you took every M5 sell signal (60-5) and even aimed just 10 pips, with SL 50, for EU alone (the recommended currency pair) that's already 40 pips. no reason to go home negative.
Okaaay, was busy for a bit...

Anyways, here's my chart.
I did have positive trades, I'm pointing out that they won't be all positive, as is the case with the last trade I entered at the 1st green line...note that the matrix indicators have changed since the entry at the red bar close. Right after entry is when the market shot north. I don't think it was a positive trade for any amount of time. Negative immediately.
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  • #9,489
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:22am Mar 20, 2012 10:22am
Quoting yelena
i second the motion! to simplify the signaler to an arrow is genius! we'll try this tomorrow and let's see how it performs. even right now, i like it already!
The 60-5 method is great when u have the time to trade. I just can't be awake to constantly look at my charts every 5 minutes. Since I live in NY it's a pain to get up at 3am

I just trade strictly off the 1hr and am averaging close to 100 pips depending on a good day... Which is way more than we really need to trade full time. Plus I like checking my charts only every hour which allows for more sleep

So far trading strictly h1 I've had 3/4 winning days with the losing day only losing 40 pips. Winning days anywhere from 90-150 pips


Cheers!
  • #9,490
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:24am Mar 20, 2012 10:24am
Quoting yelena
i second the motion! to simplify the signaler to an arrow is genius! we'll try this tomorrow and let's see how it performs. even right now, i like it already!
Absolutely.

Following just arrows at H1 and M5, today since London open, SL at SH/SL in M5 and TP at 1:1 or next S/R (whatever comes first):

EUR/USD: +25
GBP/USD: +40

Not bad, not bad at all......

and without looking at TMA Slope........
  • #9,491
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:27am Mar 20, 2012 10:27am
Quoting tehnobyte
Use Arrow in 1h TF to see trend. Take arrow signal in 5min TF in the direction of 1h trend. The signal are the same as matrix set 1,3,2 and 20,5. You will no have repaint problem (the signal is valid when bar with arrow close).
I will attach arrow which have risk setting and email alert, use risk 5 on both charts.
We also need range filter so we can use tma slope for that in 5min.
For exit use spike +4 bars or fibo or in strong trend supertrend line price touch or what you wish.
SL last high , low , happy piping
Thanks, risk 6 (arrow email indi) give same results as the arrow indi.
  • #9,492
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:28am Mar 20, 2012 10:28am
Quoting b-rock
Okaaay, was busy for a bit...

Anyways, here's my chart.
I did have positive trades, I'm pointing out that they won't be all positive, as is the case with the last trade I entered at the 1st green line...note that the matrix indicators have changed since the entry at the red bar close. Right after entry is when the market shot north. I don't think it was a positive trade for any amount of time. Negative immediately.
Prior to its purchase operation had a sell, because I do not go on sell?
  • #9,493
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:31am Mar 20, 2012 10:31am
Quoting yelena
i second the motion! to simplify the signaler to an arrow is genius! we'll try this tomorrow and let's see how it performs. even right now, i like it already!
Arrow Histogramm is also available, in conjunction with Symphonie-Matrix good eyecatching …
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  • #9,494
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:33am Mar 20, 2012 10:33am
Quoting Dyekid217
The 60-5 method is great when u have the time to trade. I just can't be awake to constantly look at my charts every 5 minutes. Since I live in NY it's a pain to get up at 3am

I just trade strictly off the 1hr and am averaging close to 100 pips depending on a good day... Which is way more than we really need to trade full time. Plus I like checking my charts only every hour which allows for more sleep

So far trading strictly h1 I've had 3/4 winning days with the losing day only losing 40 pips. Winning days anywhere from 90-150 pips


Cheers!...
Which targets you use?
  • #9,495
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:35am Mar 20, 2012 10:35am
yelena,
i'm testing this, and in H1 eurusd at 15-16H gmt+2 just give symph signal.
and i'm waiting for retrace to go long with signla in matrix in M5.
right ?


Quoting yelena
since you wont post your chart, il show you mine. on the H1 chart 6:00am (GMT+2) was the last H1 sell alert. now, on the M5 chart if you took every M5 sell signal (60-5) and even aimed just 10 pips, with SL 50, for EU alone (the recommended currency pair) that's already 40 pips. no reason to go home negative.
  • #9,496
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:44am Mar 20, 2012 10:44am
Quoting futurespeter
Thanks, risk 6 (arrow email indi) give same results as the arrow indi.
Yes, risk 6 is like rj arrow. I think the origin of both indis is ASCtrend indicator, i am looking for MTF version if somebody have it or is willing to code thanks in advance!
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  • #9,497
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:50am Mar 20, 2012 10:50am
Quoting tehnobyte
Yes, risk 6 is like rj arrow. I think the origin of both indis is ASCtrend indicator, i am looking for MTF version if somebody have it or is willing to code thanks in advance!
A MTF Arrow indicator. That would be perfect.
I bet yelena would love that too

X
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  • #9,498
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:51am Mar 20, 2012 10:51am
Quoting Jordi
Which targets you use?
I use swing high/low as stop and tp is 1:1 rr

Sometimes I get an exit before hitting 30 pips to set to break even but most of the time when I get the exit I'm already in profit.

Hence why I said on a good day. A day like yesterday was quite choppy but I didn't expect much since it was the first session of the week
  • #9,499
  • Mar 20, 2012 10:55am Mar 20, 2012 10:55am
in H1 eurusd the system give signal for long.
are you long in eurusd ?


Quoting Dyekid217
I use swing high/low as stop and tp is 1:1 rr

Sometimes I get an exit before hitting 30 pips to set to break even but most of the time when I get the exit I'm already in profit.

Hence why I said on a good day. A day like yesterday was quite choppy but I didn't expect much since it was the first session of the week
  • #9,500
  • Mar 20, 2012 11:13am Mar 20, 2012 11:13am
No I'm done trading for today going to play some basketball soon and get my car inspected. I usually start trading at London open but trading the 1hr moves really start to take place an hour before Frankfurt. Which is two hours before london. And I'm usually done by end of London.

I look at 8 pairs but only trade the best looking ones. Around 3-4 trades per day. Even more if my stops get to break even.

When I traded the 5m I was losing sleep so I was constantly tired the next day so it was effecting my mindset. I've only been strictly trading 1hr since Last Thursday. In 4 days trading I've made 350 pips. Not too bad since its nearing the end of the month and the big moves have already happened.

Consistency is really what I'm going for though as I've had both good and bad streaks while trading. I'm happy to say I haven't blown my account yet. Mostly trying to make it one really long good streak =)
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