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  • #9,201
  • Mar 18, 2012 5:37pm Mar 18, 2012 5:37pm
Quoting Jack Herer
hello everyone,

I would like to know if it is possible to use the LFH simulator with the 1.9 signaler...so far it seems I can't.

I've successfully loaded my charts and template, but the signaler never fires any signal, actually it's "stuck", there is no change in the red/blue lights.

the matrix 1.7 is loaded on the same chart and it's working fine.

any thoughts?
I could be wrong Jack, because I don't use the signaler, but I seem to remember someone saying that it won't work on the simulator. I was looking for the post but I can't find it......
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #9,202
  • Mar 18, 2012 5:42pm Mar 18, 2012 5:42pm
Quoting realjumper
I could be wrong Jack, because I don't use the signaler, but I seem to remember someone saying that it won't work on the simulator. I was looking for the post but I can't find it......
yeah, you might be right RJ.

I am just starting this week to test the signaler, let's see what it can do.

I just thought yelena had done some simulations with the signaler before, so I am not sure. I could be wrong though.
  • #9,203
  • Mar 18, 2012 6:06pm Mar 18, 2012 6:06pm
Does this sound right: Backtesting using Ext.V2. on EU 5m since 2/23. About a dozen wins, smallest being 40, largest 200. 0 Losses. Biggest drawdown about 15 pips.
  • #9,204
  • Mar 18, 2012 6:19pm Mar 18, 2012 6:19pm
Quoting diamonddbw
Does this sound right: Backtesting using Ext.V2. on EU 5m since 2/23. About a dozen wins, smallest being 40, largest 200. 0 Losses. Biggest drawdown about 15 pips.
Post your chart. How else can we know what you're seeing???
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #9,205
  • Mar 18, 2012 6:34pm Mar 18, 2012 6:34pm
Quoting realjumper
Post your chart. How else can we know what you're seeing???
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is Back Test only. But this shows what criteria I used for my testing.

Entries only during major market times except for one.

• Ext Spike
• Sentiment & Emotion to confirm
• TL Color Change

Extra indies are experimental

If you need to see more charts, I will post.

Thank You for review.
Darryl
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  • #9,206
  • Mar 18, 2012 6:38pm Mar 18, 2012 6:38pm
Quoting diamonddbw
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is Back Test only. But this shows what criteria I used for my testing.

Entries only during major market times except for one.

• Ext Spike
• Sentiment & Emotion to confirm
• TL Color Change

Extra indies are experimental

If you need to see more charts, I will post.

Thank You for review.
Darryl
Thanks for the chart. Yep, the entry looks valid to me.....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #9,207
  • Mar 18, 2012 7:03pm Mar 18, 2012 7:03pm
Quoting realjumper
Thanks for the chart. Yep, the entry looks valid to me.....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks RJ. Been devouring the thread now for about 5 days. Very very impressed with what Eval has built here. And with the backing of folks like yourself, it's no wonder this is a successful thread.

Having spent countless hours myself, developing and testing my own ideas, I can really appreciate all of the hard work everyone has done.

Thanks to All.
Darryl
  • #9,208
  • Edited 8:44pm Mar 18, 2012 7:17pm | Edited 8:44pm
Since a few have shared their templates and I always like to check them out to see how people see symponie signals, I am going to share mine. It also contains a second pivot indicator which gives the monthy and weekly pivots.

Below is something I posted a few weeks ago. These are the Sentiment indicators rebuilt I use these versions on my charts.

Quoting Rokz
Guys, this may get frowned upon but due to me being OCD I felt I had to get rid of the lime green "Symphonie Trader" object in the bottom left hand corner as it was always in the way of my FFCal indicator.

It comes from the Sentiment indicator and was hard-coded into the initial configuration prior to actually writing the code. I re-built the indicator for those who are in the same boat and like their charts looking pristine.

Just replace the original with these versions.
Here is a screenshot...
http://i43.tinypic.com/34qqlja.png
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  • #9,209
  • Mar 18, 2012 7:29pm Mar 18, 2012 7:29pm
Hi Real Jumper and all other traders,

As you can see in eurnzd and nzdchf, the pa is above/below the 5 ema, arrow and schot is also in the right direction, but one of the indicators, the extreme is in the opposite colour.

Would you take this trade?

I have read Real Jumper's explaination that only when all indicators are of same colour, to take the trade. But just checking if the settings are okay for my extreme indicator because the trade seems to go in the right direction of the ma, arrow and schot.

Also, I am using the 1.6 matrix, dont seem to find extreme settings in the options.


Two different questions here, 1. would anyone take the trade if all of them are pointing in one directions except the extreme indicator?

2. Is the extreme indicator lagging, and if i dont see a setting option, how do i change it?

Real jumper, thank you for very detailed, simple explaination. Just getting to know the system, please bear with me.

thanks
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  • #9,210
  • Mar 18, 2012 7:31pm Mar 18, 2012 7:31pm
hey Rokz,

do you know if the signaler works on the LFH simulator?

I am almost sure it doesn't, because other indies are working fine on the simulator.
  • #9,211
  • Mar 18, 2012 7:33pm Mar 18, 2012 7:33pm
Quoting forexnubie
Hi Real Jumper and all other traders,

As you can see in eurnzd and nzdchf, the pa is above/below the 5 ema, arrow and schot is also in the right direction, but one of the indicators, the extreme is in the opposite colour.

Would you take this trade?

I have read Real Jumper's explaination that only when all indicators are of same colour, to take the trade. But just checking if the settings are okay for my extreme indicator because the trade seems to go in the right direction of the ma, arrow and schot.

Also, I am using the 1.6 matrix,...
Hey forexnubie,

If possible, can you upload your pics to something like tinypic.c0m and add them to your posts by the 'Insert Image' button. This will save us from downloading and opening your .doc files.
  • #9,212
  • Mar 18, 2012 7:42pm Mar 18, 2012 7:42pm
Quoting forexnubie
Hi Real Jumper and all other traders,

As you can see in eurnzd and nzdchf, the pa is above/below the 5 ema, arrow and schot is also in the right direction, but one of the indicators, the extreme is in the opposite colour.

Would you take this trade?

I have read Real Jumper's explaination that only when all indicators are of same colour, to take the trade. But just checking if the settings are okay for my extreme indicator because the trade seems to go in the right direction of the ma, arrow and schot.

Also, I am using the 1.6 matrix, dont...
If this was in the M5 and not the H1 chart, then I would wait as per my guide posted a few pages back. However, if you waited for the extreme to 'join the party' you may miss the move. I really have little experience of trading the H1 charts with this system.

As a rule of thumb, I find that trading in this market can be difficult. That's why I wait for at least Frankfurt open when there is plenty of big players in the market. Right now, there isn't that many big players in the market apart of BOJ of course!! Sometimes this session is good, but I prefer to leave it alone most of the time.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #9,213
  • Mar 18, 2012 8:00pm Mar 18, 2012 8:00pm
Eval,

Maybe I missed this in my reading but I can't seem
to find what indicators are we using?

I know each matrix has it's own set of indicators
(trend, sentiment, emotion, extreme) but it
would be nice to know what indicator is
driving each seperate indicator in the matrix.

Can you divulge that information? I would really
like to know.

Thanks

snarlyjack
  • #9,214
  • Mar 18, 2012 8:02pm Mar 18, 2012 8:02pm
Quoting Rokz
Since a few have shared their templates and I always like to check them out to see how people see symponie signals, I am going to share mine. It also contains a second pivot indicator which gives the monthy and weekly pivots.

Below is something I posted a few weeks ago. These are the Sentiment indicators rebuilt I use these version on my chart.



Here is a screenshot...
http://i43.tinypic.com/34qqlja.png
Are you using this to trade the H1 or M5? Chart is in H1 TF?
If you are using it in H1 what criteria do you use for entries?
  • #9,215
  • Mar 18, 2012 8:19pm Mar 18, 2012 8:19pm
Quoting snarlyjack
Eval,

Maybe I missed this in my reading but I can't seem
to find what indicators are we using?

I know each matrix has it's own set of indicators
(trend, sentiment, emotion, extreme) but it
would be nice to know what indicator is
driving each seperate indicator in the matrix.

Can you divulge that information? I would really
like to know.

Thanks

snarlyjack
snarlyjack,

See post #4297 which you was found in post#1. There is no secret all the answers you seek are in post#1.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #9,216
  • Edited 8:32pm Mar 18, 2012 8:20pm | Edited 8:32pm
Quoting rrobichaux
Are you using this to trade the H1 or M5? Chart is in H1 TF?
If you are using it in H1 what criteria do you use for entries?
Practically the same as Yelena, wait for full 1H signal. Then enter when the 5MIN agrees and use Fib Extension as SL and TP1 & TP2 (On the 1H).

Quoting snarlyjack
Eval,

Maybe I missed this in my reading but I can't seem
to find what indicators are we using?

I know each matrix has it's own set of indicators
(trend, sentiment, emotion, extreme) but it
would be nice to know what indicator is
driving each seperate indicator in the matrix.

Can you divulge that information? I would really
like to know.

Thanks

snarlyjack
Matrix 1.6.1 - These Indicators are NEEDED

Sentiment -
Symphonie_Sentiment_Indikator .ex4/mq4

Emotion -
Symphonie_Market_Emotion_Indikator .ex4/mq4

Trend -
Symphonie_Trendline_Indikator .ex4/mq4

Extreme -
Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_Indikator .ex4/mq4


These are the exact indicators Matrix 1.6.1 is reading, these were read directly from the code. All these are available on the FIRST POST.
  • #9,217
  • Mar 18, 2012 9:20pm Mar 18, 2012 9:20pm
Quoting yelena
. . . i count candles in H1. price action recommends you count esp if they are one after the other.
could you expand a little bit more this topic? Thanks.
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  • #9,218
  • Mar 18, 2012 9:29pm Mar 18, 2012 9:29pm
Quoting diamonddbw
Does this sound right: Backtesting using Ext.V2. on EU 5m since 2/23. About a dozen wins, smallest being 40, largest 200. 0 Losses. Biggest drawdown about 15 pips.
What is the exit criteria you're using?
  • #9,219
  • Mar 18, 2012 9:37pm Mar 18, 2012 9:37pm
Quoting ohammond
What is the exit criteria you're using?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Opposite spike followed by candle closing with 2 more indies changing direction.

Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Darryl
  • #9,220
  • Mar 18, 2012 9:54pm Mar 18, 2012 9:54pm
Quoting diamonddbw
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Opposite spike followed by candle closing with 2 more indies changing direction.

Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Darryl
If you're working on the 5min chart I think you'll find there are a lot more ins and out of trades than the amount you have listed. If you try it in the simulator (those indis work fine in there) you will get more of an idea, don't forget, the sentiment and emotion repaint quite a few bars back. Better still demo it for the moment and see if you get the same sort of results.
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