Sonic R. System

Oh forget it guys my talent is wasted here on you !

Andy, the issue is this. A person can call out the sudden high volume at the top of any hourly candle, or bottom of any hourly candle, or of any TF candle for that matter. So what? There are hundreds of such "Price-Volume" stories associated with candles over the course of the day.

So, do we want to call out every one of the selloffs at the highs when they are occuring, only to end the day with PA even higher than it started,......and 20 pages of needless "VSA signal" calls of selloffs?

It becomes worse than useless clutter, Andy, because these posts add to what readers must ferret thru to learn Sonic R. It becomes a pain in the ass! So, please, either trade Sonic R, or follow the advice and start your own thread to post your "VSA signals". Thanks, Andy.

tah

Here are some of the trading opportunities and some of the trades I took today.

Thank you Sonic!

Andy, obviously the market has spoken for itself. It went up There're nothing certain in this market and you claim something that it "will", it "have to", SM are doing such thing "in order to" etc, I and forexbunny has followed VSA for more than a year and I'm not claiming anything since forex market is still something very difficult for me. I'm nothing sort of master the VSA but I admit it has great promises.

And Gavin Holmes is just a saleman.

I can´t help as to think what the bias of posters and their opinion of the market must do to newbies trying to learn the Sonic system. That being said I dont care what bias other people have. Learn to trade the markets without a bias, that being the Sonic system or any other.

I don´t care as to why the market did this and for what reason. I trade the markets for what they represent as trading opportunities. Having a bias is what disables you to see what really goes on in the market, sort of like you cant see the wood because of the trees.

And no this was not meant as an insult to people...

Regards,
H.

My advise is: keep it simple.
I have done many combination of other analysis with Sonic R. the finding shows spending more time in study following will give your the best outcomes:
1. S/R levels and supply and demand levels
2. pure price action (wave is one form of PA)
3. stay focus of above two and control risk.

VSA is no on the list, because i found it's not improving performance when I can do the #1 and #2 right. I won't use VSA on FX.

don't take things for granded, when i think i know PA and S/R well, I ask myself, think again...always keep open mind and learn.

good luck

People, you are still up with VSA. I think we all saw what happened with his VSA analysis. He was short all morning, and confused the traders. First of all never listen to nobody, it is your money, and it is up to you what you will do with it. While he was short I made over 100 pips on longs. Doesn't have matter what do you think volume is telling you. PRICE IS THE KING !!!! Price is going up buy, going down sell!!!!!! Did you see long sonic set ups, take it and be happy

There is VSA thread, if you are interested you can take a look, all what they do is scalping 20-50 pips a day. Who tried scalping you know what it is, and how it is works. I prefer sonic, no stress, easy money

On wall street they have contrarian, i don't know how to spell it, trader, newbie who is constantly wrong, all what you need to do is to take trades in opposite directions of his trades.

This market is going short tomorrow !!!

Ha ha !!!! Tomorrow is going to be another day, and another set ups !!!!!! I found my contrarian

please guys, I am trying to learn this sytem and theres so much back biting which has got nothing to do with the system.

The valuable posts from correct setups just get lost.

nm

Let t mkt decide mate..

cheers..
Sonic

Sonic i would change Work Like a Slave, on work smart don't work hard

vsa is good but sonic is easy,less stress and working.The most important in this business is that you know when you enter and close the trade. Happy pipping guys

Yes, money management is the key to success !!!!

Have a nice pips !

Time go to bed

dammm... you are very right mavricos. what is now is now and what about tomorrow is tomorrow. Let's not hope what the market going to our direction but we should follow what the market wants.

Gnitez mavricos. I just woke up. It is morning here.

What you can do is put money where you think its going. I have not read any posts where you actually entered a trade via SonicR. If its going down, which pair? If so, wheres your entry and valid SonicR? I myself am still learning and would love to know your perspective, since well, im a noob.

Hi Hansma,

I enjoyed your post. It got me thinking. What really, is bias? I mean at some point we all develop enough of......something....to pull the trigger. So, how do we differentiate the destructive "bias" you refer to (and which I have wrestled with so much) from reasonable "expectancies"? And, is there a difference in the sources we should allow ourselves to be influenced by?

Long ago, Sonicdeejay referred Sonikers to the "Secret of Sonic R.", that essentially being to find a hammer or engulfing candle on D1 or H4 in conjunction with an M15 SonicR setup. When we find that situation are we not suddenly biased? Or, as Sonicdeejay so often alerts Sonikers to, what about sudden high relative volume during a run, what he refers to as "stopping volume"? Are we not suddenly biased in some way by that?

Or, when you stalk and the see PA beginning to conform to the pattern you trade, dual waves and then PA strikes back to the SR level you have been looking for it to do, are you not suddenly more biased about taking the trade?

So, what really is bias? What sources of information are more likely to set up a correct bias, and what sources of information are likely not to?

At this point, I don't really know. I'm not asking questions that I already have answers to. It is just that I do not feel we can simply put a label on the word "bias" and kick it out the back door.

The point you are making, at least what I think you intend to communicate, is similar to what Sonicdeejay is getting at when he says, "....let PA and dragon lead...", which is to say something like, "Hey, regardless of whatever else, look at what is before you, and take your lead from it." It is another way of saying, "Let the market decide. Trade what you see." I'm not sure if this is what you intended. So, if not, maybe you could think some more on it and rephrase it.

I've heard it said that everbody should have a bias. But maybe what is meant by that "bias" is not what you mean by "bias". So, it gets confusing. I mean, the whole reason we use charts is to get some "feel" for things, enough so to get comfortable enough to enter a trade. Is that "bias", or something else?

I couldn't agree more that it matters not "why" the market did "this" or did "that". Actually, I feel that way because whatever the market did, or whatever it will do, is for the same reasons, of which there are only two that explains everything the market does; fear and greed. So, there is just no percentage in discussing the "whys" and the "wherefors".

As you said, the focus should be on trading the markets for what they represent as trading opportunities. Of course, one cannot "see" something as an opportunity unless they already have a bias that the current PA is more, rather than less, likely to turn out a good trade.

It's a good topic, and your post stimulated some gray matter. This is worthy of being delved into in more detail should you, or anyone else have the time. One can only help but learn and grow thru discussions of such a topic.

Thanks, Hans.

Regards,
-tah