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  • #8,581
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:23am Mar 13, 2012 4:23am
Quoting snarlyjack
What time do you start trading?
as soon as wake up a much as possible i want to be fully functional by frankfurt. but dont use alarms clocks coz i want my mind calm and steady.

@rj, ive never traded asian. is it as profitable? or are you trading that coz it falls in your regular business hours?
  • #8,582
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:24am Mar 13, 2012 4:24am
RJ,

Ok, So about midnight my time (12:00a.m.). Just
trying to get my schedule worked out...

snarlyjack
  • #8,583
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:30am Mar 13, 2012 4:30am
Quoting yelena
as soon as wake up a much as possible i want to be fully functional by frankfurt. but dont use alarms clocks coz i want my mind calm and steady.

@rj, ive never traded asian. is it as profitable? or are you trading that coz it falls in your regular business hours?
I don't trade Asian as a rule Yelena,but it has been quite good lately. For the past 6 months or so it has been good only 1 day out of 5, or less......so I gave it up. But now I will take a trade if I see a good opportunity, otherwise I like to start 1 hour before Frankie, or at least not later than Frankie and about the first 4 hours of London.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,584
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:31am Mar 13, 2012 4:31am
Quoting snarlyjack
RJ,

Ok, So about midnight my time (12:00a.m.). Just
trying to get my schedule worked out...

snarlyjack
That's real tough hours for you Jack......I thought I was bad because I couldn't trade NY, but I don't think I'd like to begin my day at midnight. You're tougher than me......
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,585
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:42am Mar 13, 2012 4:42am
RJ,

The problem is the N/Y session is for the most part range
bound. London is the best market to trade.

But your giving me some ideas to trade the 1 & 5 minute
chart in the N/Y session which might work. Before I
traded the 1 hour time frame in N/Y but that didn't work
at all.

That's why I was interested in your method...so I could
trade the 1 minute & 5 minute charts for the first few
hours of the N/Y session. That's about 6:00 -7:00 a.m. my
time which would be much better for my sleep patterns.
This 2:00 a.m. (London open) is killing me.

snarlyjack
  • #8,586
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:47am Mar 13, 2012 4:47am
RJ, Yelena, You guys are so lucky where you're at cause Frankfurt opens at 2;00am here, London 3:00 AM. So it is just crazy for traders on this side of the world getting up for those markets. Right now I'm struggling to get a single trade this morning.

-Ian
Island hopping throughout the Caribbean
  • #8,587
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:47am Mar 13, 2012 4:47am
Quoting yelena
caution everyday.

i maybe a noob but i never toss coins - no guess work, just high probability =M5+H1.

these are my trades for today, well above 150 pips, breeze.
well done yelena, good girl, hehe

but tell me your entry conditions on the eurusd trade?
on my charts the 1H EU and the arrow indi were only confirmed by the closing candle at 1.3127. you took the deal much earlier, why?? are you not waiting for the 1H symph matrix close?

thks for clarification to your clueless neighbor.
greetings
  • #8,588
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:52am Mar 13, 2012 4:52am
Quoting ManilaSpurs
well done yelena, good girl, hehe

but tell me your entry conditions on the eurusd trade?
on my charts the 1H EU and the arrow indi were only confirmed by the closing candle at 1.3127. you took the deal much earlier, why?? are you not waiting for the 1H symph matrix close?

thks for clarification to your clueless neighbor.
greetings
I think you'll find yelena has the 63,18 on that chart and for the first time that I've seen, it signalled before the 20,5.
  • #8,589
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:54am Mar 13, 2012 4:54am
Quoting snarlyjack
RJ,

The problem is the N/Y session is for the most part range
bound. London is the best market to trade.

But your giving me some ideas to trade the 1 & 5 minute
chart in the N/Y session which might work. Before I
traded the 1 hour time frame in N/Y but that didn't work
at all.

That's why I was interested in your method...so I could
trade the 1 minute & 5 minute charts for the first few
hours of the N/Y session. That's about 6:00 -7:00 a.m. my
time which would be much better for my sleep patterns.
This 2:00 a.m. (London open) is killing...
Frankie and London seem to suit me quite well. From what I see, mostly the NY session is a news driven session, but I stand to be corrected on that because I never trade it.....it just seems that way when I review the charts a day later. You could be right about M5 and (possibly) M1 for that session, my trading style doesn't change when I change timeframes.....the method is always the same. Ohammond and I are testing a way to (possibly) combat rangebound markets, and so far the tests are very encouraging, but it's too early to say yet.....beside......I still have to finish my document to post here that explains my normal method!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,590
  • Mar 13, 2012 4:56am Mar 13, 2012 4:56am
Quoting dumplin_eater
RJ, Yelena, You guys are so lucky where you're at cause Frankfurt opens at 2;00am here, London 3:00 AM. So it is just crazy for traders on this side of the world getting up for those markets. Right now I'm struggling to get a single trade this morning.

-Ian
Yeah.....that does make it tough for you
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,591
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:03am Mar 13, 2012 5:03am
RJ,

I'd be excited to here about your results on range bound
markets! And your document about your method.

You might be right about "news" trading on the N/Y session.
I've always found the N/Y session hard to trade for some reason?
And I need to get a better grip on it. But I've never traded
the N/Y session with the 5 minute chart before. So...this
method and time frame are new to me. I'am just learning
the in's and out's of it. Any help would be much appreciated!

snarlyjack
  • #8,592
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:06am Mar 13, 2012 5:06am
Quoting snarlyjack
RJ,

I'd be excited to here about your results on range bound
markets! And your document about your method.

You might be right about "news" trading on the N/Y session.
I've always found the N/Y session hard to trade for some reason?
And I need to get a better grip on it. But I've never traded
the N/Y session with the 5 minute chart before. So...this
method and time frame are new to me. I'am just learning
the in's and out's of it. Any help would be much appreciated!

snarlyjack
Ok....well I hope to have my method of trading Evals system finished this week. The rangebound testing will take a bit longer
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,593
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:12am Mar 13, 2012 5:12am
Quoting ManilaSpurs
but tell me your entry conditions on the eurusd trade?
on my charts the 1H EU and the arrow indi were only confirmed by the closing candle at 1.3127. you took the deal much earlier, why?? are you not waiting for the 1H symph matrix close?
greetings neighbor.

i just need an M5 signal to the direction of H1. never relied on arrow (i recommended the arrow coz it was the easiest way to detect trend -visually). but if it appears to the direction of my trade, then i am more than delighted. i focus on price action. HA helps in determining direction. and the standalone symphonie_trendline_nrp.ex4, is red, (settings of 20-5 but i dont know why it behaves the way it is)

say EU, that 9am bar with a long tail, it's the second red bar below MA5. that long tail suggests that it supports the downtrend.clearly that's the beginning of a downtrend. so i positioned 59 seconds before the close of H1 9:00am bar and just targetted TP1
  • #8,594
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:12am Mar 13, 2012 5:12am
Quoting ohammond
I think you'll find yelena has the 63,18 on that chart and for the first time that I've seen, it signalled before the 20,5.
Hmmm thats possible, but what i like to say is the follwing.
earlier we were always talking that the 1h candle has to be confirmed before entry.

she took the signal from the 1.9 signaler as soon as it shows the 1h red and then also when the 5 min went red but the 1h and the arrow were not confirmed on close. this gives you an earlier entry in the trade, which is great.

thats only a bit different to earlier posts.

but hey, its an interesting way and looks to work fine, i will check it too.

congratulations
  • #8,595
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:13am Mar 13, 2012 5:13am
Quoting yelena
greetings neighbor.

i just need an M5 signal to the direction of H1. never relied on arrow (i recommended the arrow coz it was the easiest way to detect trend -visually). but if it appears to the direction of my trade, then i am more than delighted. i focus on price action. HA helps in determining direction. and the standalone symphonie_trendline_nrp.ex4, is red, (settings of 20-5 but i dont know why it behaves the way it is)

say EU, that 9am bar with a long tail, it's the second red , bar below MA5. that long tail suggests that...
sorry crossed messages
  • #8,596
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:15am Mar 13, 2012 5:15am
Quoting ohammond
I think you'll find yelena has the 63,18 on that chart and for the first time that I've seen, it signalled before the 20,5.
63-18 only in backtesting to mimick the H1 signal since simulator cannot handle 2 TF's. see #8415


$Hugo/ the STL i use has the same 20-5 settings. but i do not know why it behaves the way it is. check #8387 which shows comparison
  • #8,597
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:19am Mar 13, 2012 5:19am
Quoting yelena
greetings neighbor.

i just need an M5 signal to the direction of H1. never relied on arrow (i recommended the arrow coz it was the easiest way to detect trend -visually). but if it appears to the direction of my trade, then i am more than delighted. i focus on price action. HA helps in determining direction. and the standalone symphonie_trendline_nrp.ex4, is red, (settings of 20-5 but i dont know why it behaves the way it is)

say EU, that 9am bar with a long tail, it's the second red bar below MA5. that long tail suggests that it...
thanks all clear now, well done
  • #8,598
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:23am Mar 13, 2012 5:23am
Quoting ManilaSpurs
she took the signal from the 1.9 signaler as soon as it shows the 1h red and then also when the 5 min went red but the 1h and the arrow were not confirmed on close.
the 1.9 "candleclose" is set to "false" as default. im still in default 1.9
  • #8,599
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:32am Mar 13, 2012 5:32am
told you this day was gonna be a breeze! trade 4 close at TP2 = ..... (just see the picture ) M5+H1

end of day.

take away your bias and just trade with what u see. you'll be fine as long as you follow MM with SL and TP set
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  • #8,600
  • Mar 13, 2012 5:36am Mar 13, 2012 5:36am
Quoting yelena
i never had such a problem. the beauty of 1.9 is that it handles 2 TF's.

you put this on a lower TF, such as M5 the recommended TF. if you want to receive a quality signal, you will set the "extraSignalTF" to a higher TF of which you want M5 to signal if-and-only-if they are both pointing in the same direction.

if you put 1.9 in H1 it will only refresh every hour, so the M5 you see there is irrelevant coz its the M5 status at the change of the hour, not the real M5 every 5 mins.
Hi Yelena. Need to ask you a question about the warning signals that produces the 1.9 in the 5 minutes chart, because I have not clear yet.
If for example there is 4 trends (white rectangles) that are in line with H1 and whether each is generated (for example) 4 or 5 pop subwindow with its own warning message confirming your method M5 + H1 (white arrows), my question is:
1. which signal do you take? all of them? one trade per signal?
2. do you take only the very first signal by trend (white rectangles) and ignore the rest? and then wait for the next trend M1+H1 for another trade?

sorry to ask something that is probably obvious, but to many alerts by trend confused me especially when a new candle and auto refreshes each 5 min.

pd.would not be good idea to incorporate the 1.9 in a H1 chart and will set the "extraSignalTF" in 5?

Thank in advance
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