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  • #8,521
  • Mar 12, 2012 6:51am Mar 12, 2012 6:51am
Quoting yelena
yeah 10pips here, 10pips there. don't ask for more. 70 now. but feels like im on adrenaline that i cant take my eyes off from the screen. my nose will bleed very soon.

i hate ranging markets!

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  • #8,522
  • Mar 12, 2012 6:52am Mar 12, 2012 6:52am
Hi Symphoniers
I don't know how or why but nowdays when i put som trend lines, fib retracements etc on my chart (MT4) and change timeframe or restarts my MT4 these lines disappear and i need to redraw them.
I've tried another MT4 but happened again. I guess it's got something to do with one of Symphonies ind.
Let me know if there's any solution for this.
Sorry about asking damm question during busiest hours. so no hurry.
Thanks
Santorini
  • #8,523
  • Mar 12, 2012 6:54am Mar 12, 2012 6:54am
Quoting santorini11
Hi Symphoniers
I don't know how or why but nowdays when i put som trend lines, fib retracements etc on my chart (MT4) and change timeframe or restarts my MT4 these lines disappear and i need to redraw them.
I've tried another MT4 but happened again. I guess it's got something to do with one of Symphonies ind.
Let me know if there's any solution for this.
Sorry about asking damm question during busiest hours. so no hurry.
Thanks
Santorini

did you go back to the timeframe you draw the lines? if you draw lines in smaller timeframe sometime they do not show up in other larger timefame and if you draw in larger timeframe make sure you shrink screen in lower timeframe.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #8,524
  • Mar 12, 2012 6:59am Mar 12, 2012 6:59am
Quoting realjumper
Yes......did you notice how S1 stopped the bears dead in their tracks?
Yeah , I closed the trade right then and there. Same for the AUD/USD as well
Island hopping throughout the Caribbean
  • #8,525
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:03am Mar 12, 2012 7:03am
Quoting dumplin_eater
Yeah , I closed the trade right then and there. Same for the AUD/USD as well
Perfect
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,526
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:03am Mar 12, 2012 7:03am
Quoting Evaluator
did you go back to the timeframe you draw the lines? if you draw lines in smaller timeframe sometime they do not show up in other larger timefame and if you draw in larger timeframe make sure you shrink screen in lower timeframe.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Thanks Evaluator
Do you mean if draw TL on 1min chart, it looks like dot on daily chart?
I can draw anything on raw chart. but not on the chart with Symphonie's ind's. I have tried another PC too.
It never happened before.
  • #8,527
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:19am Mar 12, 2012 7:19am
Quoting snarlyjack
Evaluator,

Nice meeting you, I'am enjoying your system! It's been
a heavy read but I finally made it through the whole thing.

It's an excellent system, I'am converting from my old system
to your system. I believe once I learn how to trade it
the potential will be much greater. Thanks for posting it!

Question: Would you please post your channel indicator,
"The down channel indicator". The indicator seems to be
very good at finding our place in where were at in the
market.

Also, nice meeting everyone! You guy's & gal's...
Unbelievable, if such an experienced trader with much vouches would read through the thread, i see know reason why such ''freshers'' should complain that it's 1million post.
Kudos Snarly.
  • #8,528
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:38am Mar 12, 2012 7:38am
Quoting realjumper
Yeah....commodity currencies like the Aussie and the Kiwi will suffer due to poor Chinese data posted earlier today

thank you for this, very helpful.i was on the sell in my real account since AU wasn't ranging. but my initial target was only TP1. but when you mentioned that, i pushed it off to TP2, which is getting near. 61 pips so far. big help.

since the GU 13:00 bar closed below MA, i accepted the sell in GU, 21 pips and running.

this is nice... a ranging market that ended up as trending one...cool!
  • #8,529
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:42am Mar 12, 2012 7:42am
Quoting yelena
thank you for this, very helpful.i was on the sell in my real account since AU wasn't ranging. but my initial target was only TP1. but when you mentioned that, i pushed it off to TP2, which is getting near. 61 pips so far. big help.

since the GU 13:00 bar closed below MA, i accepted the sell in GU, 21 pips and running.

this is nice... a ranging market that ended up as trending one...cool!
Well done

I'm going to call it a day shortly......I caught up most of what I didn't take on NFP, so I think that will do for today
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,530
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:55am Mar 12, 2012 7:55am
Quoting dumplin_eater
Yeah , I closed the trade right then and there. Same for the AUD/USD as well
I'd like to be able to sense an exit when PA turns against you. Unfortunately I normally take a good walloping before I realise I should have made an exit.
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #8,531
  • Mar 12, 2012 7:57am Mar 12, 2012 7:57am
Quoting realjumper
Well done

I'm going to call it a day shortly......I caught up most of what I didn't take on NFP, so I think that will do for today
Great stuff RJ. You are an inspiration to us all
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #8,532
  • Mar 12, 2012 9:31am Mar 12, 2012 9:31am
Quoting itsallover
I'd like to be able to sense an exit when PA turns against you. Unfortunately I normally take a good walloping before I realise I should have made an exit.

i waited till all my TP's are hit.... that's why i refer to H1 -so that i wouldn't prematurely exit.

as long as you are trading with the bias, and all the candle of that bias are below or above the MA5 (depending whether its a bearish or bullish trend) and your are not against the stronger bias (H4) then all your TP's will be hit.

give or take 14 hours, GU can hit its 1.5578, just ensure that you put trailing stops in case the market turns sour. and AU can hit 1.0473 in 1-2 hours.

end of day...

just a progress on the M1+M5 test 120 pips EU,AU, mostly GU, no losses...cool but requires a lot of focus. my eyes hurt.
  • #8,533
  • Mar 12, 2012 9:32am Mar 12, 2012 9:32am
Somthing is going on behind the curtain. Today is turning out to be a boring Monday but could this be a setup for a great jump in the markets?? Either way the market moves is usually preceded by a very low level in the VIX.

This could be the calm before the storm.......

As If There Was No Risk Tomorrow: Complacency Hits Record As VIX Craters

By Tyler Durden
Created 03/12/2012 - 10:07

As VIX drops below 15 for the first time in almost a year, the clarion calls of 'all-clear' should perhaps be tempered with the record-steepness of the volatility term-structure. Simply put, everyone and his mom is now selling short-dated vol but mid-term vol remains stubbornly high - in English, we're safe today but tomorrow could be a disaster - or given medium-term risk outlooks, short-term traders are the most complacent they have ever been.
The writing of covered calls - or overwriting to juice returns - seems to be reaching crescendo levels given this steepness. Writing premium is a no-brainer trade until it reaches down your throat and rips your guts out...
Each time the VIX/VXV term structure has reached down to these levels it has snapped back extremely quickly - this is a record steepness for the short-term vol term structure and should be viewed with massive skepticism.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2_VIXVXV_0.png [4]
With all the Vol ETFs, we just wonder how much impact these are having on this short-dated vol compression - especially as longer-term vol fits much more accurately with credit implied protection costs - meaning reality in the short-term remains, well, complacent is a polite word.
Using the vol term structure to 'bet' across event risk time horizons is a popular trade (perhaps on Greek sovereign litigation risk concerns) but we think the collapse in short-term vol is as much as matter of levered longs chasing risk (as S&P has lost its juice) as it is a thoughtful risk positioning for some inevitable risk flare.
Careful with those fingers in front of that steamroller...
Chart: Bloomberg
  • #8,534
  • Mar 12, 2012 9:40am Mar 12, 2012 9:40am
Quoting yelena
i waited till all my TP's are hit.... that's why i refer to H1 -so that i wouldn't prematurely exit.

as long as you are trading with the bias, and all the candle of that bias are below or above the MA5 (depending whether its a bearish or bullish trend) and your are not against the stronger bias (H4) then all your TP's will be hit.

give or take 14 hours, GU can hit its 1.5578, just ensure that you put trailing stops in case the market turns sour. and AU can hit 1.0473 in 1-2 hours.

end of day...

just a progress on the M1+M5 test...
Thanx for that yelena.
Well done on your pips!!!
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #8,535
  • Mar 12, 2012 1:21pm Mar 12, 2012 1:21pm
Quoting realjumper
I've been asked that question by a couple of people lately. I'm trying to find the time to document it all and make it into a PDF that can be posted here. That way I won't have to repeat myself. I was hoping to get it done this weekend, but I just ran out of time. I'll chip away at this week and get it finished
RJ,

Although I have been using your template for some time now, I would still like to have your pdf with all your insight for reference.

Thanks.
  • #8,536
  • Mar 12, 2012 1:22pm Mar 12, 2012 1:22pm
Quoting yelena
i waited till all my TP's are hit.... that's why i refer to H1 -so that i wouldn't prematurely exit.

as long as you are trading with the bias, and all the candle of that bias are below or above the MA5 (depending whether its a bearish or bullish trend) and your are not against the stronger bias (H4) then all your TP's will be hit.

give or take 14 hours, GU can hit its 1.5578, just ensure that you put trailing stops in case the market turns sour. and AU can hit 1.0473 in 1-2 hours.

end of day...

just a progress on the M1+M5 test 120 pips...
Do you think your M1+M5 idea will work in trending markets too or would you need to switch to M5+H1 for trending? I know you said M5+H1 is for trending but I am wondering if a person can not tell the difference between trending and ranging, maybe just using M1+M5 all of the time would be the answer.
  • #8,537
  • Mar 12, 2012 1:55pm Mar 12, 2012 1:55pm
Quoting itsallover
I'd like to be able to sense an exit when PA turns against you. Unfortunately I normally take a good walloping before I realise I should have made an exit.
That walloping is what overtime will teach you and make you better.
  • #8,538
  • Edited 2:55pm Mar 12, 2012 2:44pm | Edited 2:55pm
Quoting maudur
Hi all,

If you want to know and download currency strength meter, please go to:

http://www.currencystrengthmeter.com

This video explains the 7 best uses of CSM

Green pips!!!

i dismissed this over the weekend coz there were 7 ways. meaning its subject to interpretation once again, which i didn't like. i wanted a more mechanical approach. so i stripped it down to bare basics, and found 1 very useful function for it which bidong highlighted before - to determine when a pair is ranging or trending.

earlier i had my left hand deal with ranging and demo, while the right hand trending and real. and i took EurChf for the 1st time (what?! 4 pips spread????!) and managed 21 pips for TP1. could have been 58 if i aimed for TP2 since it was trending strong.

until RJ posts his "ranging" strategy, i think ill stick to trending markets and use this "meter" to filter the pairs. i just need to master 1 technique, right? and make sure i know it like the back of my hands. and maybe start shooting for TP2.

@MagicMike. im abandoning M1+M5, ranging - is simply not my thing. i just cant stand 8 hours of adrenaline. it will give me wrinkles
  • #8,539
  • Mar 12, 2012 2:54pm Mar 12, 2012 2:54pm
Hi Evaluator/guys! Just been sitting here checking this thread out for the last hour and a half, it looks pretty impressive! I have a question if I may.. so..(Tell me if im wrong here) we are watching the EURUSD on the 5min timeframe, and when we get the two "bar" indicators at the bottom the same colour, as well as the trend line the matching colour and a spike (or spike recently in correct direction) we enter?

I am unsure as to which way the spike is meant to be facing and if it should be filled with colour? From all the charts attached it appears sometimes the spike is up for a buy and sometimes down for a buy.. and also how recently does the spike have to have occurred? and LASTLY does the closed candle need to be an up bar for a buy and down bar for a sell etc?

Sorry for such a large post Im just very keen to get involved in this strategy as soon as I can and I want to get it right!

thanks in advance!
Limitation is a creation of the mind
  • #8,540
  • Mar 12, 2012 3:14pm Mar 12, 2012 3:14pm
Quoting schnitzeltra
Hi Evaluator/guys! Just been sitting here checking this thread out for the last hour and a half, it looks pretty impressive! I have a question if I may.. so..(Tell me if im wrong here) we are watching the EURUSD on the 5min timeframe, and when we get the two "bar" indicators at the bottom the same colour, as well as the trend line the matching colour and a spike (or spike recently in correct direction) we enter?

I am unsure as to which way the spike is meant to be facing and if it should be filled with colour? From all the charts attached it...
Welcome to the thread, the first thing you should do is read post #1 preferably about 3 times Then download all the indicators that it has on that post, read the entire thread, and at the same time JUST WATCH the charts. If you are unsure which way the spike is meant to be facing, you simply have not read enough of the thread yet. The way to get it right, read, watch and demo in that order. If you have any questions with charts we will be pleased to help you, but you really need to do the groundwork first for your own sake.
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