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  • #8,481
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:26am Mar 12, 2012 5:26am
RJ,

What is your method?

I'am wondering if I wouldn't be better off trading, for example
the 5 minute chart (or 1 minute) and just taking the signals
off of that chart and not worrying about the 1 hour chart
at all. The trades might be faster and maybe some counter
trading but all in all it might be a better way. Waiting for the
1 hour chart to line up seems to take forever...

What are your thoughts...

snarlyjack
  • #8,482
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:28am Mar 12, 2012 5:28am
Quoting realjumper
Mostly M5.....sometimes M1.....hardly ever M15
Thanks RJ.

You say you don't look to the Higher TF as does Yelena.
Given that, and how my charts are set up, where the arrows are, would that have met your criteria for Taking the trades ?


Thanks

SR
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  • #8,483
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:29am Mar 12, 2012 5:29am
Quoting snarlyjack
RJ,

What is your method?

I'am wondering if I wouldn't be better off trading, for example
the 5 minute chart (or 1 minute) and just taking the signals
off of that chart and not worrying about the 1 hour chart
at all. The trades might be faster and maybe some counter
trading but all in all it might be a better way. Waiting for the
1 hour chart to line up seems to take forever...

What are your thoughts...

snarlyjack
I've been asked that question by a couple of people lately. I'm trying to find the time to document it all and make it into a PDF that can be posted here. That way I won't have to repeat myself. I was hoping to get it done this weekend, but I just ran out of time. I'll chip away at this week and get it finished
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,484
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:30am Mar 12, 2012 5:30am
Quoting snarlyjack
RJ,

What is your method?

I'am wondering if I wouldn't be better off trading, for example
the 5 minute chart (or 1 minute) and just taking the signals
off of that chart and not worrying about the 1 hour chart
at all. The trades might be faster and maybe some counter
trading but all in all it might be a better way. Waiting for the
1 hour chart to line up seems to take forever...

What are your thoughts...

snarlyjack
Sort of what I was saying Snarly .....
  • #8,485
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:31am Mar 12, 2012 5:31am
Quoting realjumper
I've been asked that question by a couple of people lately. I'm trying to find the time to document it all and make it into a PDF that can be posted here. That way I won't have to repeat myself. I was hoping to get it done this weekend, but I just ran out of time. I'll chip away at this week and get it finished
Excellent .....
  • #8,486
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:35am Mar 12, 2012 5:35am
Quoting maudur
SR, matrix v1.7 corrects this problem.
So far so good, no annoying Alarms....thanks maudur...
  • #8,487
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:36am Mar 12, 2012 5:36am
Quoting Sjr
Thanks RJ.

You say you don't look to the Higher TF as does Yelena.
Given that, and how my charts are set up, where the arrows are, would that have met your criteria for Taking the trades ?


Thanks

SR
I do look at the higher TF's, but they don't form part of my plan as they do for Yelena.

Those 3 trades you marked are fine. I would have taken them a tad earlier though.....as a rule I take the trade at the close of the first candle that is clear of the yellow MA and is in the direction of the trade. So for a short trade I wait for the first bear candle that is clear of the MA.....and the first bull candle that is clear of the MA for a long trade.......in both cases, Matrix must also agree.

If we have a clear trend, either on the M15, M30 or H1, I will try to not trade against it.....eve if I miss a few pips. I find it much more healthy to trade only with the trend. If the market is ranging, then I will take long and short......or......find another pair to trade.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,488
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:38am Mar 12, 2012 5:38am
Yes RJ,

I would really appreciate your insight into this!!!

You might have the key to the whole thing...

Thanks

snarlyjack
  • #8,489
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:42am Mar 12, 2012 5:42am
Quoting realjumper
I do look at the higher TF's, but they don't form part of my plan as they do for Yelena.

Those 3 trades you marked are fine. I would have taken them a tad earlier though.....as a rule I take the trade at the close of the first candle that is clear of the yellow MA and is in the direction of the trade. So for a short trade I wait for the first bear candle that is clear of the MA.....and the first bull candle that is clear of the MA for a long trade.......in both cases, Matrix must also agree.

If we have a clear trend, either on the M15, M30 or...
Thanks RJ,

I hear what your saying and understand. I have noticed however that the Matrix takes a few candles longer before it also agrees. Often I find the trend indicator the slowest to turn, and by then the trade has moved on some. Just an observation, nothing more.

Cheers

SR
  • #8,490
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:43am Mar 12, 2012 5:43am
Quoting Sjr
Thanks RJ,

I hear what your saying and understand. I have noticed however that the Matrix takes a few candles longer before it also agrees. Often I find the trend indicator the slowest to turn, and by then the trade has moved on some. Just an observation, nothing more.

Cheers

SR
Make sure that Trend is set to 20, 5 and that you refresh the chart frequently....don't rely on auto refresher
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,491
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:45am Mar 12, 2012 5:45am
Quoting snarlyjack
Yes RJ,

I would really appreciate your insight into this!!!

You might have the key to the whole thing...

Thanks

snarlyjack
Believe me he has
  • #8,492
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:46am Mar 12, 2012 5:46am
Heres an example RJ.
Its no problem, just an observation. Im still waiting, but I thought its an interesting example as its moved around 9 pips or so, so far.

Do you see this also, and if so do you just wait it out, move on to another trade, or ?

Cheers

SR
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  • #8,493
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:48am Mar 12, 2012 5:48am
Quoting Sjr
Heres an example RJ.
Its no problem, just an observation. Im still waiting, but I thought its an interesting example as its moved around 9 pips or so, so far.

Do you see this also, and if so do you just wait it out, move on to another trade, or ?

Cheers

SR
Your trend is out of sync.....it should have 4 or 5 red squares by now. Check the settings are 20, 5
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,494
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:49am Mar 12, 2012 5:49am
Quoting realjumper
Make sure that Trend is set to 20, 5 and that you refresh the chart frequently....don't rely on auto refresher
Doh !!! Im such a dummy I just installed V1.7 to get rid of the alarms and missed changing the setting, which Ive done now and already I see the improvement...

Time to give myself an upper cut....LOL

SR
  • #8,495
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:50am Mar 12, 2012 5:50am
Quoting Sjr
Doh !!! Im such a dummy I just installed V1.7 to get rid of the alarms and missed changing the setting, which Ive done now and already I see the improvement...

Time to give myself an upper cut....LOL

SR
LOL.....that's 2 Speights you owe me!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,496
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:54am Mar 12, 2012 5:54am
Quoting Sjr
BTW, can someone tell me how to turn alarms off.
Ive tried looking at all the indicators attached to chart, The only one I can find is in matrix v1.6 which has an alarm on it.
Ive selected alarms on under edit function, to "false" but that hasn't helped.

Any ideas?

Cheers

SR
yes, you can ...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...41#post5448241


matrix v1.6 mq4
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...43#post5406243
  • #8,497
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:56am Mar 12, 2012 5:56am
looks really good. another 10 from EU and 2 10's in GU.... running at +40. seems really plausible after all.

so ranging markets can be profitable.... hmmmmm
  • #8,498
  • Mar 12, 2012 5:59am Mar 12, 2012 5:59am
Quoting realjumper
LOL.....that's 2 Speights you owe me!!
No worries there.....would be glad too, you've been a great help to this thread and to me.

Cheers

SR
  • #8,499
  • Mar 12, 2012 6:02am Mar 12, 2012 6:02am
Quoting yelena
looks really good. another 10 from EU and 2 10's in GU.... running at +40. seems really plausible after all.

so ranging markets can be profitable.... hmmmmm
That's right.....of course they are profitable, just have to apply a different tactic.....no blood in sight!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,500
  • Mar 12, 2012 6:07am Mar 12, 2012 6:07am
I know its easy in hindsight, but I suppose by keeping it really simple (which I struggle with)this can be a very profitable system.
The white lines indicate possible entries given the rules.
The third line might have been a challenge to get to 10 pips, but the others would have made it.

This has been a huge learning curve for me over the past few weeks, but Im sure this system has alot of merit. I just need lots of practise, and build confidence in the system

SR
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