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  • #31,721
  • Mar 8, 2012 1:23am Mar 8, 2012 1:23am
Quoting traderathome
Hansma, I wonder about you. You responded to this post stating you'd present what you are doing at the open of the London market today. Well, the market has been open over an hour now, and you've not shown up. Also, I look back now and see that you even deleted the post in which you made this commitment!

My concern remains that you should either post Sonic R. System trades, or explain the nature of the trading you do post pics. of. If it is a good system, then perhaps some that might be struggling here would like to try it. You said you'd...

Hi Tah - yah i´m okay - just had to run off to the dentist


Anyway the system is a bit complex and involves some math calculations. In hindsight I deleted the post as I figured it would cause more confusion than good is, for current users and newcomers to this thread.


Regards,
H.
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #31,722
  • Mar 8, 2012 1:33am Mar 8, 2012 1:33am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

Entered long (EP= 1.5743).
GU:

TP1 reached and trade #1 closed for 55 pips gain EP= 1.5743 to TP1= 1.5798. Trade #2 still running with SL raised to BE+ 24 pips.
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  • #31,723
  • Mar 8, 2012 1:36am Mar 8, 2012 1:36am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

TP1 reached and trade #1 closed for 31 pips gain EP= 1.3145 to TP1= 1.3176. Trade #2 still running.
EU:

TP2 reached and trade #2 closed for 54 pips gain EP= 1.3145 to TP2= 1.3199.
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  • #31,724
  • Mar 8, 2012 1:45am Mar 8, 2012 1:45am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

TP1 reached and trade #1 closed for 55 pips gain EP= 1.5743 to TP1= 1.5798. Trade #2 still running with SL raised to BE+ 24 pips.
GU:

Manually closed trade #2 per pic for 80 pips gain EP= 1.5743 to close= 1.5823.
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  • #31,725
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:06am Mar 8, 2012 2:06am
Hiya All,

Trade taken on EURAUD short
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  • #31,726
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:14am Mar 8, 2012 2:14am
Quoting jayjonbeach
I'd agree with the other poster on both counts, you didn't "look to the left", in other words check for where prices reversed before (Support, see chart and re-check page 1 and links, don't enter too close to sup/res), plus as you say its was also a round number. Also agree TP was too small so if that was a good TP (chart-wise), then the R:R wasn't worth it.

See chart for more notes. Hope that helps.
Cheers......lesson learnt me thinks......I was focusing too much on the 4H down trend.Made most of it back this morning on EU (not sonic, harmonic trade).

Thanks for answering.

Neil
  • #31,727
  • Edited 3:31am Mar 8, 2012 2:43am | Edited 3:31am
Quoting mavricos
Sonic can i ask you, if that is not a secret, what average amount of pips do you make per months ?

Nope.. Not telling...

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Sonic

P.S Professor TAH, know my dark FX secrets, I hope it is safe with him...
  • #31,728
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:56am Mar 8, 2012 2:56am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

As with AU, this looks to be in a stage of accumulation; buying to close shorts followed by buying to open longs would be logical. So, more penetration into the accumulation area is likely if the market is not finished.

There is the possibility this is just a pause in a down trend, a way-station along the road south. Two things though, make this less likely. Interest at the most recent lows is higher than at the most recent highs, which is a sign of buying. Also, we must remember Benanke's promise to not let the US dollar get too strong...
TAH, I like your chart of E/U showing the Distribution and Accumulation, as I am tinkering with those key phrases on my charts recently.
Only reading the charts as I have no idea what Benanke spoke or promised!!

Also this is like a long time since we both have same direction with E/U and even exact TP with your TP2= 1.3199 was my TP1.
  • #31,729
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:28am Mar 8, 2012 3:28am
Hi ,

Yesterday I was tired of intraday trades and started to look at 1h charts, look how perfect sonic system catch the big moves ! This is the trade I've taken in the morning . It could be good if professor TAH and some other experienced guys also shared some 1H charts to help us catch the swing trades.Any ideas ?
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  • #31,730
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:30am Mar 8, 2012 3:30am
As a matter of fact, many traders, especially those on the floors
who have the ability to move prices very dramatically
in one direction or the other, usually don't have the slightest
concept of the fundamental supply and demand factors that are
supposed to affect prices. Furthermore, at any given moment, much
of their trading activity is prompted by a response to emotional factors
that are completely outside the parameters of the fundamental
model. In other words, the people who trade (and consequently
move prices) don't always act in a rational manner.
Ultimately, the fundamental analyst could find that a prediction
about where prices should be at some point in the future is correct.
But in the meantime, price movement could be so volatile that it
would be very difficult, if not impossible, to stay in a trade in order to
realize the objective.
  • #31,731
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:32am Mar 8, 2012 3:32am
Interesting topic, using higher tf chart with the Soniq system. Have people had much success with it? I can't see why it wouldn't work? Whilst on this topic, do you guys trade the soniq system exclusively or do you have 3-4 systems that you trade in tandem? At the moment I just trade soniq and PA on the daily charts. Would love to hear what other people are doing....
  • #31,732
  • Mar 8, 2012 4:20am Mar 8, 2012 4:20am
Keep your profits safe guys in eu .As I see eu made a big move intraday and it is at maximum high atr level. Key resistance levels are close in eu index also.
  • #31,733
  • Mar 8, 2012 9:36am Mar 8, 2012 9:36am
Quoting mavricos
As a matter of fact, many traders, especially those on the floors
who have the ability to move prices very dramatically
in one direction or the other, usually don't have the slightest
concept of the fundamental supply and demand factors that are
supposed to affect prices. Furthermore, at any given moment, much
of their trading activity is prompted by a response to emotional factors
that are completely outside the parameters of the fundamental
model. In other words, the people who trade (and consequently
move prices) don't always act in a rational...
Mavricos, I like your post! Yippee-Ki-Ay! As I have said for so long......

Forget technicals (excepting Dragon & Trend, of course), because as Master Sonicdeejay and most others will eventually conclude, they are lagging.

And forget fundamentals. What? Forget fundamentals? Yep. Acutally, forget them all except one. There is one fundamental that outstrips the effectiveness of everything else in the marketplace,.....all other fundamentals and all technicals (yes, even the Dragon and Trend combo)! And, just what would that one fundamental be?.........

......BB's raw, unadulterated GREED!
  • #31,734
  • Edited 1:15pm Mar 8, 2012 10:35am | Edited 1:15pm
Quoting traderathome
You're right. No short. You can see how trading intensity increased at the FO/LO, as the BBs forced price down. And then again before the US open. And next, the US BBs did the same! Heavier and heavier trading as the BBs forced the price down. So, it does look like a "Torpedo and Grab" strategy today by the market. And the price has not been pushed down all that much. Surely, all this activity is going to be for more than a meager 50 pips, or so down. You bet!

Red line releases for EUR tomorrow are lined up and then the critical ones for USD...
Market Comment w/GU as Example:

This referenced post solicitied a chuckle from Hansma, but look what transpired. Yep, UP! And now we await the USD redline release Friday. Any guesses as to which direcection then? Well, not to be too cocky, because the market always decides. And if they don't decide down tomorrow, there is more time to Distribute ahead of a planned down further out in time, .....next week, maybe.

Anyway, look at GU, which symbolizes what has just occurred; PA moved from Accumulation to Distribution. This is not to say there isn't more upside possible. There always is. But here is a nice place for the BBs to start closing longs again, and again start opening shorts,.....selling motivated trading ahead of the next round of three USD redlline releases on Friday. And it doesn't matter what the content of those releases will be. If the "market" has decided down, then down it will be. If it has decided up, then up it will be. Or, it might have decided nothing, and will use ongoing time to jockey positions for whatever and whenever it's next big move will be next week.

Not to be too exacting, but a likely market senario is more upside twix now and the Friday USD redlines. So the currently marked Distribution might just be a way-station on the road going a bit further north before the market pulls the rug.
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  • #31,735
  • Edited 11:41am Mar 8, 2012 11:23am | Edited 11:41am
Quoting okanemici
Hi ,

Yesterday I was tired of intraday trades and started to look at 1h charts, look how perfect sonic system catch the big moves ! This is the trade I've taken in the morning . It could be good if professor TAH and some other experienced guys also shared some 1H charts to help us catch the swing trades.Any ideas ?
1. Okanemici, why have you not taken the time to confirm the placement of your vLines using the SonicR Clock Panel? You have three excellent times each trading day to do this. The placement of your vLines is incorrect. Compare yours to mine. Why bother to use and display something if you won't first take the time to be sure it is correct? I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but this is sloppy work on your part. Please take the time to set up your template correctly, my fellow Soniker and friend.

2. Yes, using H1 can be a lot less stressful. The entries won't be so tight in to the Dragon as with using M15, but then the number of head fakes should be correspondingly less, too. And knowing that EU tends to move in 100+, 150+, 200+ and sometimes 250+ moves, what difference does a half dozen or so pips less at entry matter?
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  • #31,736
  • Edited 1:00pm Mar 8, 2012 12:29pm | Edited 1:00pm
Quoting andyvxr
Hiya All,

Trade taken on EURAUD short
Hi Andy,

With the prospect of the opposite sides of USD pairs being pumped, thinking short was, .....what?

In any case, your entry was not SonicR! You jumped the gun and tried to squeeze a meager few extra pips out of a trade by entering while PA was inside the Dragan. I've posted showing two possible proper EPs. The closest to the Dragon would have been about 4 pips below the key wave leg #3 exiting candle, at about 1.2399. The lower of the two would have been if you'd waited just 5 more pips for PA to drop below the previous significant low,.....something adviseable in an atmosphere of likely pumping of both sides of this pair relative to the USD. And, had you done that, been less eager and more willing to waive 9 pips then you'd never have gotten into the trade.

Another clue was from volume. Note the strong bull candle volume in VSA. It might have at least put traders on notice that accumulation was underway.

You can find my template via the 05-15-2011 release linked in Post #1. It won't feature the "scale" appearance of horizontal lines on the right side of the chart, but the rest is same.

Regards,
tah
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  • #31,737
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:37pm Mar 8, 2012 3:37pm
Quoting traderathome
1. Okanemici, why have you not taken the time to confirm the placement of your vLines using the SonicR Clock Panel? You have three excellent times each trading day to do this. The placement of your vLines is incorrect. Compare yours to mine. Why bother to use and display something if you won't first take the time to be sure it is correct? I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but this is sloppy work on your part. Please take the time to set up your template correctly, my fellow Soniker and friend.

2. Yes, using H1 can be a lot less stressful. The entries...
Hi Tah,

I generally use the black sonic chart but when I want to post something I open a white plane one to be more clear , thats why I forget to reset the vlines over and over again, but I will make a nice white and save it it's not because I don't care it is related to be new in here.

Secondly the thing about 1 H is this, I understood that the market is designed to fool unexperienced rookies like me , so when I see a sharp jump in price I find myself jumping on it on the lower timeframes and then these bastards rip my money , but later when I check 1h tf I see that the second 1h candle didnt pass the last low and even the bigboys dont fake the price that much.

Moreover if I can grap a nice position on longer tf I can easily stay with the trend until the price pass the dragon again and dont get fooled easily.Thats why I'd appreciate if you post longer tf charts when ever available my fellow professor
  • #31,738
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:45pm Mar 8, 2012 3:45pm
Hi Master SonicDeejay and Tah,

I see that gbpchf broke the february montly close and I hear that people expect a shart drop in this pair.Should it rise back to 1.439xx do you think it would be good to short after a bounce ? Could you make a comment on it please ?
  • #31,739
  • Edited 7:14pm Mar 8, 2012 5:30pm | Edited 7:14pm
Quoting okanemici
Hi Master SonicDeejay and Tah,

I see that gbpchf broke the february montly close and I hear that people expect a shart drop in this pair.Should it rise back to 1.439xx do you think it would be good to short after a bounce ? Could you make a comment on it please ?
Comment? Ok. The damned pair has an outrageous spread and a piss poor range!

(Personally, if traders would boycott such pairs then maybe the brokers and liquidity providing banks would stop charging such large spreads. If no retailers traded 'em, then the BBs would be back to trying to steal from each other,......they wouldn't like that! They'd put pressure on the rest of the thieves to lower spreads, so as to attract the sheep back. )
  • #31,740
  • Mar 8, 2012 8:25pm Mar 8, 2012 8:25pm
Quoting mavricos
Sonic can i ask you, if that is not a secret, what average amount of pips do you make per months ?
Mavricos, Master Sonicdeejay started and maintains this thread for the benefit of others, not himself. He has a full-time job as a project engineer which has frequently precluded him from participation on this thread.

He has set forth a price dominate, elegantly simple and effective trading system, with only a few (but important) rules, and some wise recommendations. How many pips he, you, or Santa Claus makes is totally immaterial. What matters is: it works, everything here is free, and how many pip will you make?

Personally, I cannot fathom why people think to evaluate on the basis of someone else's participation or someone else's resultant success. The richest gold mine in America was abandoned after many years of unsuccessful labor. The following buyer hammered out six more inches of rock and struck it rich.

-tah
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