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  • #8,001
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:50am Mar 8, 2012 2:50am
Quoting Dyekid217
care to share your trades??

I'm in 3 trades but 3 are in the green with 2 locked at BE.. looking to place more orders now that my risk is minimized.

USD index is looking bearish with price breaking below daily S1 so I'm looking at more USD pairs.. mainly USDCHF

also are you trading this live?? your tone sounds like you are.. if thats the case maybe you should go back to demo and re-evaluate your trading methods..this system produces good trades but you must trust it as well as yourself
yes, of course no problem.

today i was into the long play, because 1H give me confirmation because RJ arrow, and HH/HL.

All entries are signaled with 1.9

For all entries all indicator signals were aligned. the red lines in the chart below shows were i got the opposite extreme cycle signals. i took #2 exits and if an opposite signal appears and the +30 pips are not reached then close immediatly.
it is very important to trust, believe and stick to the rules, because this causes to calm down my emotions.
i know i did nothing wrong. all trades were also taken above the R1 Pivot so i did not trade against a pivot.

it is simply trading and trading causes losses too. this is a time were the signals generate opposite entries. this tells me to switch into higher or lower TFs, but this realization cost a lot money.
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  • #8,002
  • Edited 3:06am Mar 8, 2012 2:53am | Edited 3:06am
Quoting Mediator
it is simply trading and trading causes losses too. this is a time were the signals generate opposite entries. this tells me to switch into higher or lower TFs, but this realization cost a lot money.
that's why i adapted the proposed fibo and the existing supertrendline exit rule in H1 rather than in M5. entries in M5 but exits are managed in H1. try it. you'll trade calmer

you see yesterday, in demo, i traded sell signals only produced by signaler 1.7 (since 1.9 was quiet) ans since the supertrendline in H1 is still a sell. it generated 110 pips in EU and GU with no losses, 10 pips at a time (ranging market) - pure symphonie signals (although i am yet to prove to myself that symphine can flourish in ranging market).

i studied my feb 22 day of reckoning. and it hit me like a rock - use the STL rule! and it should have saved me trouble!

and i am going to let 2 trades run in the BUY/LONG until the STL in H1 changes to red/ or sickly PA showing symptoms of reversal. just to study it. small lots of course, just 0.01 but real money nonetheless

may be the best exit signal is here all along, just in the wrong timeframe. im learning day too. your questions forces me to think (nose bleed) and be innovative.. but its too early to tell. il keep you posted.
  • #8,003
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:54am Mar 8, 2012 2:54am
Quoting realjumper
I don't know why you're attempting to trade this mess......really I don't understand what you're trying to do.....I see nothing to trade and I already made a post about the Greek debt swap at 8.00gmt.

Do you see a high probability trade? If you do, please post a chart.
i only try to trade what i see and what i see is a trend and signals and a high probably that the price bounce of off the R1 Pivot.

maybe this is wrong what i do to take a bias which restricts me to take the right trades. i think the market gives a s***t on if there is a MA, a Pivot or some signals. the market only balancing out the given orders.
  • #8,004
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:54am Mar 8, 2012 2:54am
Quoting realjumper
Eyes on the EU at 8.00 GMT. The pa might swing violently either way.....be careful.

Still waiting for the fireworks. I'm sittin tight til then.
  • #8,005
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:57am Mar 8, 2012 2:57am
Quoting yelena
that's why i adapted the the proposed fibo and the existing supertrendline exit rule in H1 rather than in M5. entries in M5 but exits are managed in H1. try it. you'll trade calmer
i only stick to the rules in post #1 and try to get an equal balance curve reported week after week. it must not be the same, but climbing up is better then a falling balance.
  • #8,006
  • Mar 8, 2012 2:59am Mar 8, 2012 2:59am
Quoting yelena
that's why i adapted the the proposed fibo and the existing supertrendline exit rule in H1 rather than in M5. entries in M5 but exits are managed in H1. try it. you'll trade calmer

you see yesterday, in demo, i traded sell signals only since the supertrendline in H1 is still a sell and it generated 110 pips in EU and GU with no losses, 10 pips at a time (ranging market)
I'm also managing and only exitng based on the 1hr.. It is definately alot easier to stay calm for the exit because there might be some confusion of exiting on the 5m with the indicators changing alot more.

the 50 pip SL I use gives me enough breathing room in 1hr and the 5m pinpoints the entry.. cheers!

if my EU and AU trades are not at BE by the time ECB comes around then I'm gonna close them out
  • #8,007
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:03am Mar 8, 2012 3:03am
Quoting FXSwissTrader
Still waiting for the fireworks. I'm sittin tight til then.
The fireworks may not come.....we have no way of knowing what the talkinhg heads are up to. One this is for certain.....this 25 pip up and down crap is not tradable and I can't believe anyone is trying it. You don't HAVE to be in the market just because the computer is turned on!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,008
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:05am Mar 8, 2012 3:05am
Quoting Mediator
i only try to trade what i see and what i see is a trend and signals and a high probably that the price bounce of off the R1 Pivot.

maybe this is wrong what i do to take a bias which restricts me to take the right trades. i think the market gives a s***t on if there is a MA, a Pivot or some signals. the market only balancing out the given orders.
Since Frankfurt open, there has been nothing to trade. Keep your money in your pocket!!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,009
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:05am Mar 8, 2012 3:05am
Quoting sasavisnic67
Dear friends,
Why do I have a strong feeling SEFC084 Indicator is repainting?

Any experiance?

BR
I have the same felling with you. I'm not good at using the SEFC084 INdicator.
  • #8,010
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:06am Mar 8, 2012 3:06am
Quoting yelena
that's why i adapted the proposed fibo and the existing supertrendline exit rule in H1 rather than in M5. entries in M5 but exits are managed in H1. try it. you'll trade calmer
so you exit a trade in loss if the supertrend in H1 changes color?
this means that the last trade you take, and while trend trading there will be ever a last trade with the last signals, will hit a big loss if waited until H1 changes colour? or will you exit earlier if a strong move comes along or a new opposite signal appears?
  • #8,011
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:07am Mar 8, 2012 3:07am
Quoting realjumper
The fireworks may not come.....we have no way of knowing what the talkinhg heads are up to. One this is for certain.....this 25 pip up and down crap is not tradable and I can't believe anyone is trying it. You don't HAVE to be in the market just because the computer is turned on!

I agree. Can't trade this crap. At least you guys out East are able to trade the Asian market and get early signals on other pairs. European/US market has been extremely choppy. Those Asian pairs run out of steam by the time we wake up here in Western Europe. Too late to get in.
  • #8,012
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:10am Mar 8, 2012 3:10am
Quoting FXSwissTrader
I agree. Can't trade this crap. At least you guys out East are able to trade the Asian market and get early signals on other pairs. European/US market has been extremely choppy. Those Asian pairs run out of steam by the time we wake up here in Europe. Too late to get in.
Yeah.....the Asian market was good to trade, and has been pretty good all week. There's nothing in EU since Frankie opened and until this debt swap shit is settled, the market will remain very choppy. Honestly, those EU talking heads couldn't organise a party in a brewery.....absolutely useless overpaid tossers......the whole lot of them!!!!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,013
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:10am Mar 8, 2012 3:10am
Everyone. I would not try to trade for the next few hours. Today there is a Greek PSI and then this afternoon at 14.20 is the ECB rate decision and news conference. The markets will be very light today as these major news events will proove to be market drivers and everyone is waiting on the information from these decisions to determine market direction.

Until these news events pass the market will be stuck in a tight whipsaw consolidation pattern. These are risky (very risky) plays if you want my opinion and I think you will find yourself better off not trading until the market decides which direction it wishes to take.

For all you technical chart people take a look at this chart as you can see a clearly defined consolidation channel with a top at 1.31835 and a bottom at 1.31650. Anything in the middle will be mindless chop looking to take your money.

Again, my advise is to stay clear until a clean pattern emerges and then you can trade the trend. Remember, trade with the TREND!!!!! and stay out of the meat grinders. Your account balance will thank you for that.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #8,014
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:11am Mar 8, 2012 3:11am
just exited EU based on opposite extreme spike..

gonna wait to see if anything opens up... if not I'll wait till after ECB

total running for today .. +59
  • #8,015
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:12am Mar 8, 2012 3:12am
Quoting realjumper
Since Frankfurt open, there has been nothing to trade. Keep your money in your pocket!!!
yes, now i know it too, but to get this kind of choppy hindsight it had to happened first to realize it.
how you got your hindsight that a market is not tradable if it does happen in the future? nobody could look into future.
i only try play trendcontinuatioon of what happens in the asian session.
sooner or later a trendcontinuation will happen (or not) but do know this i have to participate.
without participation no winnings (and yes also no losses.)
  • #8,016
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:15am Mar 8, 2012 3:15am
Quoting realjumper
Yeah.....the Asian market was good to trade, and has been pretty good all week. There's nothing in EU since Frankie opened and until this debt swap shit is settled, the market will remain very choppy. Honestly, those EU talking heads couldn't organise a party in a brewery.....absolutely useless overpaid tossers......the whole lot of them!!!!!

Yep, you're right mate. People become politicians to enrich themselves, not serve the people for which they were elected. How many poor politicians do you know? Most of these people couldn't run a lemonade stand.
  • #8,017
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:16am Mar 8, 2012 3:16am
aw shucks.. price would jump 15 pips as soon as I exit haha.. coulda set to BE

oh well you win some you lose some.. I'm feeling quite under the wheather and have a pretty clogged sinus.. I hate not being able to breathe through my nose

I hope everyone is having a good day/night so far.. I'm gonna watch some tele now and relax
  • #8,018
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:16am Mar 8, 2012 3:16am
Quoting Mediator
yes, now i know it too, but to get this kind of choppy hindsight it had to happened first to realize it.
how you got your hindsight that a market is not tradable if it does happen in the future? nobody could look into future.
i only try play trendcontinuatioon of what happens in the asian session.
sooner or later a trendcontinuation will happen (or not) but do know this i have to participate.
without participation no winnings (and yes also no losses.)
Oh well.....have it your way then
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #8,019
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:17am Mar 8, 2012 3:17am
Quoting Mediator
so you exit a trade in loss if the supertrend in H1 changes color?
this means that the last trade you take, and while trend trading there will be ever a last trade with the last signals, will hit a big loss if waited until H1 changes colour? or will you exit earlier if a strong move comes along or a new opposite signal appears?
nope. no losses yet, i editted my #8005

but if it comes to the point that a sheer spike happens changing the color of STL in H1, then my SL/trailing stop is already in place as protection

last trend trading was tuesday. closed sell/short orders running since Mar2 yesterday. today, only buy signals taken. M5 signals should be the same direction as H1. technically they are the same entry rules as H1 coming from 1.9, but i filter it, i will only take it to the direction of H1.

see, i follow symphonie rules. just modified to filter bad signals.
  • #8,020
  • Mar 8, 2012 3:17am Mar 8, 2012 3:17am
thanks Evaluator for your good post
have nice pips

Quoting Evaluator
Everyone. I would not try to trade for the next few hours. Today there is a Greek PSI and then this afternoon at 14.20 is the ECB rate decision and news conference. The markets will be very light today as these major news events will proove to be market drivers and everyone is waiting on the information from these decisions to determine market direction.

Until these news events pass the market will be stuck in a tight whipsaw consolidation pattern. These are risky (very risky) plays if you want my opinion and I think you will find yourself better...
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