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  • #7,821
  • Mar 7, 2012 3:52am Mar 7, 2012 3:52am
Quoting Mediator
my first LONG today with confirmation of 5M+1H signal turn around immediately against me when i opend the order and i closed it, because of a counter signal. i'd liked to play the trend continuation of the asian session impulse move.

then i played the SHORT repaint later with the intention of a trend continuation of the 1H Trend since feb. 29th

i used the signale 1.9beta with default settings.

oh, and don't say there is no clear signal shown in the matrix. when i traded this two signals, the matrix showed clear signals but they repainted now.

total...
Mediator,

In periods of low volume at points of consolidation you may do better in smaller or larger timeframes instead of 5 min timeframe to trade. Simply for the fact that in 1 min you catch the small moves faster or in larger because the larger timeframes are looking over the top of the whipsaws and do not participate because market direction is still not clear.

I can say that buy orders are probably not the best positions to take because the over all trending of the market is down, price action is contained with in a downchannel. So, it is always harder to trade against the trend and the pips are always not worth the effort in counter trend trades. Always remember that the trend is your friend and you should only trade with the trend not against it.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #7,822
  • Mar 7, 2012 3:57am Mar 7, 2012 3:57am
Quoting Evaluator
Mediator,

In periods of low volume at points of consolidation you may do better in smaller or larger timeframes instead of 5 min timeframe to trade. Simply for the fact that in 1 min you catch the small moves faster or in larger because the larger timeframes are looking over the top of the whipsaws and do not participate because market direction is still not clear.

I can say that buy orders are probably not the best positions to take because the over all trending of the market is down, price action is contained with in a downchannel. So,...

yes, you are absolutly right. the trend is your friend. this was the intention of my second trade SHORT. but failed. so what doesn't matter.

but to know when price gets into consolidation or sidewaymarket needs confirmation. this will cost one or two -ve trades. then i can switch to lower TF.

Thanks for recommendations
  • #7,823
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:04am Mar 7, 2012 4:04am
Quoting realjumper
I don't care what anyone thinks.....I only care what I can see
I'm still short at DP 3147, target 3100.
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  • #7,824
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:07am Mar 7, 2012 4:07am
Quoting lhDT
I'm still short at DP 3147, target 3100.
I'm still holding my short too
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,825
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:07am Mar 7, 2012 4:07am
Quoting Mediator
my first LONG today with confirmation of 5M+1H signal turn around immediately against me when i opend the order and i closed it, because of a counter signal. i'd liked to play the trend continuation of the asian session impulse move.

then i played the SHORT repaint later with the intention of a trend continuation of the 1H Trend since feb. 29th

i used the signale 1.9beta with default settings.

oh, and don't say there is no clear signal shown in the matrix. when i traded this two signals, the matrix showed clear signals but they repainted now.

total...

Your (+my) Long Entry was little under the daily Pivot, a strong resistance. I'm still long ...

The Short Entry Signal afterwards wasn't good for me (may be the price action shows me that this was wrong) because in the 1h I did only see an Up arrow.
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  • #7,826
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:09am Mar 7, 2012 4:09am
Quoting yelena
yes, but not all are visible.

error... im not techy, and never encountered it. but in my indicators list, i have both v1 and v2 of emo, senti, extreme and supertrend and the single version of autorefresh. soweee

here is a user-friendly and quiet 1.6 matrix. it alarms only for bearish/bullish alerts and the signals themselves. this should be kinder to your RAM
Yelena, thanks for posting this. Yesterday I missed 2 trades on the EU because my version was not signaling the shorts. I want to check then, with this one.
  • #7,827
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:11am Mar 7, 2012 4:11am
Quoting Mediator
my first LONG today with confirmation of 5M+1H signal turn around immediately against me when i opend the order and i closed it, because of a counter signal. i'd liked to play the trend continuation of the asian session impulse move.

that's why i manage on H1 and check other currencies. allow me to bring your attention the AU,EU,GU,AU and EJ in H1.. the favorite pairs of this thread..... what do you see?

coz i see nothing.

all of them piercing thru MA5 - that is not a trend. try not to make one if there isn't any. trade with what you see not with what you think will happen.

And what i received was an H1 bullish alert in EU, not a buy signal. then just signals in M5
  • #7,828
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:14am Mar 7, 2012 4:14am
Quoting yelena
that's why i manage on H1 and check other currencies. allow me to bring your attention the AU,EU,GU,AU and EJ in H1.. the favorite pairs of this thread..... what do you see?

coz i see nothing.

all of them piercing thru MA5 - that is not a trend. try not to make one if there isn't any. trade with what you see not with what you think will happen.

And what i received was an H1 bullish alert in EU, not a buy signal. then just signals in M5
the trend on EU just changed with this new hour (30/5 settings).. If it closes you might get a buy signal at the start of the new candle.. stoch just crossed up as well.. we'll see where it closes
  • #7,829
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:16am Mar 7, 2012 4:16am
Quoting futurespeter
Your (+my) Long Entry was little under the daily Pivot, a strong resistance. I'm still long ...

Afterwards the Short Entry wasn't good for me (may be the price action shows me that this was wrong), but in 1h I did only see an up arrow.
hello futurespeter,

to play with Pivots i ask myself how this works in a 24h market? when should the pivot calculated? in respect to the USA-, Asians- or Europe-Market. Which Timezone to choose i ask? i could imagine that to use the london-session time because there is the most volume.

The short i took was a clear trend trade. and yes there is an arrow in the 1H i see, but this arrow will not hold forever. you know. anything can happen and my intention is a trendcontinuation.

the long i took was because of wave theorie. like A-B-C and i tried to play the C-Wave
my trenddetection in the higher TF works like HH/HL and LH/LL.

but thanks for your thougths.
  • #7,830
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:16am Mar 7, 2012 4:16am
Hi,
I've just downloaded and installed the Symphonie V1.9beta however my Extreme Cycle indicator is all black?? can someone please tell me how I fix this?
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  • #7,831
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:17am Mar 7, 2012 4:17am
Quoting Daytrader74
Hi,
I've just downloaded and installed the Symphonie V1.9beta however my Extreme Cycle indicator is all black?? can someone please tell me how I fix this?
you need to download the extreme cycle indicator v2..

it's a couple pages back
  • #7,832
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:20am Mar 7, 2012 4:20am
Quoting Dyekid217
you need to download the extreme cycle indicator v2..

it's a couple pages back
Hmm...could you please tell me what pages its on or what post number? Thank you.
  • #7,833
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:23am Mar 7, 2012 4:23am
EU M15 long +10
Pivot Boss in the making~
  • #7,834
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:26am Mar 7, 2012 4:26am
All major currencies except GU gave buy signals on H1 during Asian session on my charts. M15 gave buy signals before H1. All these signals are deep in positive without almost no drawdown. And now they are above their daily pivots.

Regards,
Blackeagle
  • #7,835
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:27am Mar 7, 2012 4:27am
Quoting realjumper
I'm still holding my short too
Closed for -7
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,836
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:29am Mar 7, 2012 4:29am
Quoting Daytrader74
Hmm...could you please tell me what pages its on or what post number? Thank you.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post5441371


Eu buy set to BE +2..

both EU and GU trades currently up +30 waiting on GU to set to BE..
  • #7,837
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:30am Mar 7, 2012 4:30am
Quoting Blackeagle
All major currencies except GU gave buy signals on H1 during Asian session on my charts. M15 gave buy signals before H1. All these signals are deep in positive without almost no drawdown. And now they are above their daily pivots.

Regards,
Blackeagle
Indeed.....but I am reluctant to take a long from below the DP. In this case it cost me 7 pips, but as a general rule, it is pretty solid
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #7,838
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:33am Mar 7, 2012 4:33am
I have a suggestion that you guy's might want to try.
On a different system that I traded they used price channels.

5 smoothed-lo
5 smoothed-hi

If the p/a breaks above/below the channel, it tends to
keep moving in that direction. If p/a is inside the
price channel the p/a is thrashing around.

Just a suggestion that you might want to try.
I'am not trying to change the system, just
maybe adding value...

Check it out you might like it...

snarlyjack
  • #7,839
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:37am Mar 7, 2012 4:37am
Quoting Dyekid217
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post5441371


Eu buy set to BE +2..

both EU and GU trades currently up +30 waiting on GU to set to BE..
Thank you!
  • #7,840
  • Mar 7, 2012 4:41am Mar 7, 2012 4:41am
Quoting realjumper
Indeed.....but I am reluctant to take a long from below the DP. In this case it cost me 7 pips, but as a general rule, it is pretty solid
Since I'm trading M15, there were 15-20 pips to DP when I got the signals. But I agree with you, if it is too close, I'm waiting for DP cleared, too.

Regards,
Blackeagle
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