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  • #31,261
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:11am Feb 24, 2012 3:11am
EU long triggered @1.3392
UC short triggered @.89992
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  • #31,262
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:17am Feb 24, 2012 3:17am
It's good trade? Follow the rules?

Thanks
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  • #31,263
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:19am Feb 24, 2012 3:19am
I believe sonic teaches us to use the most recent price action and the most recent price action is printing lower highs and lower lows in AU
  • #31,264
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:29am Feb 24, 2012 3:29am
Quoting traderathome
Nope. See chart. Long bar dropped price thru Dragon. New trend direction is now down. Two more trend following down bars. Then the three resting San Poh bars, then trend following bars again. How long will this little down trend last? Nobody knows.
Why then take a counter trend set up and create a wrong feeling for the newbies that as a experienced trader is calling out a trade so it is valid to take this set up.

San Poh and now no San Poh, There is no discipline in the thread. Lets accept as a failed trade and carry on! Please dont chase a trade, let it come to us.

Let price do what it wants to do and we jump in when it gives an entry according to Sonic no speculation again plz.
  • #31,265
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:51am Feb 24, 2012 3:51am
how do you guys like settings your pending orders once price breaks out of the dragon?? I'm currently testing the spread+5 pips above the high/low of the candle.
  • #31,266
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:53am Feb 24, 2012 3:53am
Quoting adler
Why then take a counter trend set up and create a wrong feeling for the newbies that as a experienced trader is calling out a trade so it is valid to take this set up.

San Poh and now no San Poh, There is no discipline in the thread. Lets accept as a failed trade and carry on! Please dont chase a trade, let it come to us.

Let price do what it wants to do and we jump in when it gives an entry according to Sonic no speculation again plz.
"Why then take a counter trend set up and create a wrong feeling for the newbies that as a experienced trader is calling out a trade so it is valid to take this set up?" - adler

Adler, I don't know what you are smoking, but nobody recommended a long trade, and I don't see that anybody took a long trade! Some folks here were just discussing San Poh, that is all.

And as far as vaxx asking (just above) if AU is a long setup, he should know that since the Dragon is not yet angled up (see his pic) he should be able to answer his own question!

If there is any problem, it is that some folks just aren't bothering to read and learn the Sonic R. System rules and recommendations. Not with other discussions that take place.

-tah
  • #31,267
  • Feb 24, 2012 3:59am Feb 24, 2012 3:59am
Quoting traderathome
"Why then take a counter trend set up and create a wrong feeling for the newbies that as a experienced trader is calling out a trade so it is valid to take this set up?" - adler

Adler, I don't know what you are smoking, but nobody recommended a long trade, and I don't see that anybody took a long trade! Some folks here were just discussing San Poh, that is all.

And as far as vaxx asking (just above) if AU is a long setup, he should know that since the Dragon is not yet angled up (see his pic) he should be able to answer his own question!...
Even after only following this thread intensely for the past two weeks I see that you take some heat haha. People really need to read your posts with a grain of salt and shouldn't jump the gun and think that youre placing every trade based on your analysis
  • #31,268
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:12am Feb 24, 2012 4:12am
Quoting Dyekid217
Even after only following this thread intensely for the past two weeks I see that you take some heat haha. People really need to read your posts with a grain of salt and shouldn't jump the gun and think that youre placing every trade based on your analysis
Agreed.
  • #31,269
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:40am Feb 24, 2012 4:40am
Quoting adler
Hello TAH

Sorry to say , it does not matter what market does tomorrow/day after, what matters is whether you can make money now. Again your short bias from start of the week is proving wrong and the whole week wrecking trades.

Thats why I feel this is a good system, but bringing a subjective bias by looking at news, volume, own judgement will in long run make this system subjective. If we have to be subjective in trading why have rules for a system. Again BAIS, BAIS BAIS is a killer for any system. ?

All the short bias really defeated...
I'm sure TAH welcomes any comments such as yours, because it is relevant to the thread. We all are here to learn how to trade the SonicR method effectively, and constructive comments certainly have a place here.

Even though the SonicR rules are very specific there is (and always will be) a subjective side to our trading. This is unavoidable, and necessary when selecting TP levels.

I believe TAH's comments are meant to make us all THINK, THINK, THINK before we act. That is ALWAYS a good thing!

Knowledge is power, in any endeavor. In an earlier post by someone, they made the comment "I should trade what I see and not what I think.""Have to keep this is mind!" This statement clearly is applicable to the SonicR method of trading.

  • #31,270
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:41am Feb 24, 2012 4:41am
Quoting traderathome
"Why then take a counter trend set up and create a wrong feeling for the newbies that as a experienced trader is calling out a trade so it is valid to take this set up?" - adler

Adler, I don't know what you are smoking, but nobody recommended a long trade, and I don't see that anybody took a long trade! Some folks here were just discussing San Poh, that is all.

And as far as vaxx asking (just above) if AU is a long setup, he should know that since the Dragon is not yet angled up (see his pic) he should be able to answer his own question!...

This dragon is pointing up? We cheated more ......
  • #31,271
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:43am Feb 24, 2012 4:43am
Dragon up. is not good?
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  • #31,272
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:44am Feb 24, 2012 4:44am
Quoting foxybunny
For this TAH's comment.
This is like an Ah-Ha moment!!

I would agree on this wholly when I do follow the Classic SonicR.
Just damn hard to follow Classic SonicR all the time, and get side tracked with other ideas; our bias; other peoples' bias; high impact news; and chasing the holy grail.
Just another reminder that we are human (even TAH) and are subject to human frailties. The SonicR Method is all about getting a grip on our short-comings.

We all need these constant reminders to help keep our trading vehicle out of the ditches and moving down the road to our destination.

  • #31,273
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:55am Feb 24, 2012 4:55am
Quoting foxybunny
E/U reached a monthly low 1.2620 in mid Jan-12, then on 16-Feb-12 a nice swing low 1.2975.

Since this week Mon 20-Feb, there was a Gap up AFTER a recent swing low, and so far this week this gap has not fill.
Noted that all the gaps from mid-Jan till 17-Feb been closed within 1-2 days.
Whether this gap will fill over this coming weekend is uncertain.

Currently this Gap after the recent swing low looks for like a new beginning of a runaway/breakaway gap.

If my analysis of this runaway gap is correct, this means price will not come back...
My biggest problem is trying to fill the gap that is between my ears!
  • #31,274
  • Feb 24, 2012 4:56am Feb 24, 2012 4:56am
AU and Market Comment:

As with the other USD pairs, price has been moved in the anti-USD direction ahead of the USD high impact release that comes in about 4 hours. With price moves stalled now as the market waits for the release, there remains the possibility that directions will reverse as a market response to the USD release.

AU has the potential for a nice short setup. The other USD pairs might also move in the USD direction, but currently show no hint of a setup for that move.

AU might serve as a "leading" indicator of market sentiment today.
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  • #31,275
  • Feb 24, 2012 5:07am Feb 24, 2012 5:07am
Quoting traderathome
....and stop hunting day, too, as I recall you saying!

tah
Stop hunting day, as in "hunting of stops",

AND

Stop hunting day, as in "stop hunting for a trade and
take some time off for other interests, friends, and family!"

  • #31,276
  • Feb 24, 2012 5:20am Feb 24, 2012 5:20am
Quoting adler
I agree with what you say, I have been trading successfully for more than 7 years and to be honest, I feel the reason we are posting here is to be clear concise and to the point of the system. Just because I have all the time in the world to post, think what would happen if each and every one of us start to post a sonic chart and come out with out speculations.



How can a NEWBIE have the skills to decifer what is right or wrong!
I strongly believe any poster should stick to the SYSTEM, SYSTEM, SYSTEM. This system manual does not talk about...
It's human nature to take something simple, and try to make it difficult!
  • #31,277
  • Feb 24, 2012 5:26am Feb 24, 2012 5:26am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
My biggest problem is trying to fill the gap that is between my ears!
Oh for such gaps, the strategy is to "Fade the Gap", then this will fill the 6-inch between your ears.
  • #31,278
  • Feb 24, 2012 5:28am Feb 24, 2012 5:28am
Quoting Dyekid217
how do you guys like settings your pending orders once price breaks out of the dragon?? I'm currently testing the spread+5 pips above the high/low of the candle.
I usually just double the spread price.
  • #31,279
  • Feb 24, 2012 5:30am Feb 24, 2012 5:30am
Quoting vaxx
Dragon up. is not good?
That Magenta line you label as Dragon is NOT commonly known as Sonic Dragon in this thread. It is more like a Support/Resistance line.

We refer to the Dragon to mean the two lines (you coloured Blue) above that you label.
  • #31,280
  • Edited 7:22am Feb 24, 2012 5:36am | Edited 7:22am
..not there yet, i'd like to see a solid 15min close beneath the pivot.

Edit: pending short order now in, a couple of pips below the signal candle, which you'll notice is below the daily pivot.
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