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  • #781
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:27am Feb 23, 2012 9:27am
Long AudNzd at 1.2825
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #782
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:28am Feb 23, 2012 9:28am
Quoting Alorente
I wouldnīt call it useless. That is harsh. It is one more option available and it has its merits. As you know, my favorite by light years difference is recovery. I have lost thousands upon thousands with stop losses. I havenīt lost a single dollar with recovery. Iīve lost money on trades, many times, donīt get me wrong. But because I decided to close the position because the technicals had changed. When I use recoveru it is because the technicals still point strongly to a Recovery of the price. I can only say it works for me.

Still, we...
Of course, everyone has a different opinion, thatīs why I said it is useless "in my opinion".........

Anyway, I think everybody must try it with real money. Itīs a very good exercise.
  • #783
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:32am Feb 23, 2012 9:32am
When billions of dollars need to be hedged, when options barriers need to be taken out, when billions need to be exchanged over night to cover international transactions, when Central Banks need to intervene, publicly or under the radar, not one of those transactions will be paused so that they can take a look at what systems retail traders are running.

Then take the Goldman Sach's of the world, the Citibank's, the Barclay's etc, etc, ... these people have algo's that we can only dream about.

So the trading systems here on FF may not have anything to worry about.

  • #784
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:33am Feb 23, 2012 9:33am
+113 pips today, I traded a bunch of different pairs for small gains, since I entered late. I still have 3 positions from today open, and one from yesterday.
  • #785
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:34am Feb 23, 2012 9:34am
Quoting Elmago
Favorito.

Sorry, that's the translation because my English is not very good, what I meant in Spanish is:

Favorito.
no digo nosotros con respecto a ustedes, digo nosotros porque estoy con un compaņero siguiendo el sistema.

Sorry for the confusion in the translator jeje I respect all who are in the forum
That's OK, don't worry about that!

No hard feelings, no big deal either: people misunderstand each other all the time, even when they speak the same language.
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #786
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:35am Feb 23, 2012 9:35am
Important point about TMA:

In an earlier post this morning I said:

GbpUsd just doesnīt want to come down. Itīs floating in thin air. It will though, it will...

1 hour after, it dropped to the lower band in three candles. It was floating up there for 18 candles and then it dropped like a rock in 3. That is typical of the way price works within the TMA bands. Remember this point. Many times it looks like itīs never going to happen, but sooner or later it will. It just wonīt do it when you want it to do it, but it will do it...
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #787
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:37am Feb 23, 2012 9:37am
Just close EU short +36 pips
AU short +19 pips (jumped in a little late)
I traded in live account, 0.01 lot of course.
Al, Is it the same to use 5 SMMA in stead of EA's because I'm afraid that I'll
make mistake between buy and sell.

I think locking is probably only for more experience traders. We newbies or oldbies lack the ability to unlock at appropriate opportunity. Of course I probably only speak for myself, but I saw a few newbies got slaughtered by locking.
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  • #788
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:45am Feb 23, 2012 9:45am
Quoting Caillou
We have only 2 ways of exit: SL or Recovery.
SL makes you a loser (no offense). Recovery - is usually a pure Martingale, and Martingale is pretty close to gambling (Al, no offense, I know that you use recovery, but I'm sure you use it much smarter that 99.9% of the traders. In other words: Recovery is NOT for everybody).

Quoting Caillou
I just want to give my opinion about hedging. Hedging is absolutely useless, you are only paying double spread....
We have only 2 ways of exit: SL or Recovery, I think itīs better to spend time with the recovery option than with the hedging. But hey, this is just my opinion.
Try hedging with real money more than 100 times and you will realize that.
I think I already explained about so called "paying double spread".

I don't have nundreds of hedgings because I choose my trades very carefully and because if the price goes against me I usually manage to get out very fast. But from the hedgings I did I know that it works perfectly if you know what you're doing. And I know what I'm doing.

P.S. I do it with real money.
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  • #789
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:47am Feb 23, 2012 9:47am
Quoting nanningbob
Time frames give you certain perspectives of what is happening out there. For example Daily and 4H charts give you what is happening during a week. 1H & 30M charts help you see what is happening during that day. 15M charts and lower help you see what is happening in a session like the Euro session, USD session etc. So if your looking to determine a definition of a 15M TF trend you really are looking for what happens in a 4-8 hour session. I have never tried defining a session trend but something you may want to look at is: Is price moving away...
And great thought, indeed from the master... Bob, I thank you a lot for taking the time to write this. It means a lot to me. I know how busy you are. Iīm telling you, Iīm in awe of this guy... Anyway, where was I...? Oh, yes, Of everything Bob said, I think this is the most important:

In reality, unless there is a big news story you shouldnt have too much trouble with your system since prices range 70-80% of the time.

That is the reason why I decided to not include a trend condition in the rules initially, because intraday, it is not that critical. Important? Yes. As X-Man said, You will be more consistent with the trend than against, but intraday, trend is a lot less important than on a H4, D1 or W1 chart.

For now, I would say, letīs avoid very steep TMA counter trends but letīs not worry too much about the trend in the rest.

Please, reread what bob said above. This guy knows and understands trends better than anyone in this forum.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #790
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:47am Feb 23, 2012 9:47am
Alorente, that came into AUDNZD?
This is what I see ...

At the end you get a few pips GBPUSD after hitting STOP to another sell signal, but be very fair in the midline of TMA ..

Congratulations on your results ..
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  • #791
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:48am Feb 23, 2012 9:48am
May i ask why u introduced the moving avg(white line) and ma cross over line(red and blue). how do i make use of them? Srry if you alrdy said, but cant understand why, tkx.
  • #792
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:49am Feb 23, 2012 9:49am
Quoting Favorite
Guys, I have a suggestion:

Let's make it a good habit: every time when you go to the thread, go the the very first post and check if there are any updates. You don't have to re-read the whole post every time, you can know if there are any updates if you go to the last line of the post, it contains the date when the last update has been made.

Right now, for example, the last line of the first post says: "Last edited Feb 23, 2012 5:16am (4 hr ago)" So if you've been away for more than four hours - you have to look for the last...
Great suggestion, Mike. Thanks.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #793
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:52am Feb 23, 2012 9:52am
Quoting rivtrader
When billions of dollars need to be hedged, when options barriers need to be taken out, when billions need to be exchanged over night to cover international transactions, when Central Banks need to intervene, publicly or under the radar, not one of those transactions will be paused so that they can take a look at what systems retail traders are running.

Then take the Goldman Sach's of the world, the Citibank's, the Barclay's etc, etc, ... these people have algo's that we can only dream about.

So the trading systems here on FF may not have anything...
Totally agree. We are a flea on an elephantīs back.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #794
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:57am Feb 23, 2012 9:57am
Quoting Alorente
Totally agree. We are a flea on an elephantīs back.
  • #795
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:57am Feb 23, 2012 9:57am
Quoting flaw
Just close EU short +36 pips
AU short +19 pips (jumped in a little late)
I traded in live account, 0.01 lot of course.
Al, Is it the same to use 5 SMMA in stead of EA's because I'm afraid that I'll
make mistake between buy and sell.

I think locking is probably only for more experience traders. We newbies or oldbies lack the ability to unlock at appropriate opportunity. Of course I probably only speak for myself, but I saw a few newbies got slaughtered by locking.
Yes, you can use the MA and enter manually, itīs not as cool, but it works also. Make sure you have the settings right. Create an MA, paint it white and for settings, choose Smoothed, Period: 5, Shift: 5 Median Price (HL/2).

Iīm telling you though, itīs cooler with the EA...
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #796
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:59am Feb 23, 2012 9:59am
Hi All,

Anyone watching EURUSD again to make a LH and reverse to the opposite side of channel again...Watching it.

thanks
  • #797
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:05am Feb 23, 2012 10:05am
Al, Thank you for your prompt reply. I'll try the EA's. If they work fine then
a full EA is quite possible. I know little bit programming but not enough to build
an EA, plus got mixed feeling about EA's.
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  • #798
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:05am Feb 23, 2012 10:05am
Quoting grechmar
May i ask why u introduced the moving avg(white line) and ma cross over line(red and blue). how do i make use of them? Srry if you alrdy said, but cant understand why, tkx.
The White line goes together with the EAs I included. When you are ready to short for example, you apply the Short EA that I sent on your chart. Then as price crosses the white line, the EA automatically will place the order with your broker and then suspend itself. It will say, EA is suspended on the upper left of the chart. Now you can remove the EA. At that point you are in the market with your short and you handle the rest of the trade manually. If you need to place a long, you do the same thing but with the EA Long.

The Red and Blue lines is the MA Crossover Indicator. It is another way of looking at the AM Crossover Histogram. The nice thing about it, is that you can see the lines approaching each other as they get ready to cross. When they do, the Histogram changes color on the current bar. I hope it is clear. If you donīt need it, simply remove it.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #799
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:08am Feb 23, 2012 10:08am
Quoting flaw
I think locking is probably only for more experience traders. We newbies or oldbies lack the ability to unlock at appropriate opportunity. Of course I probably only speak for myself, but I saw a few newbies got slaughtered by locking.
You're absolutely correct! It is a very good thing, but you have to demo it first, then you have to try it live with a small 0.01 lot size, and when you confident that you mastered it - then you can use it instead of the stop-losses. But you do all this stuff (demo - trading with 0.01 etc.) every time when you try new system or a new method, don't you?
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #800
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:09am Feb 23, 2012 10:09am
LIonsden, Yes I saw it. It's probably the London close retracement. I should 've traded signal to signal.
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