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  • #6,581
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:15am Feb 23, 2012 8:15am
thank you

Quoting yelena
the key to symphonie is a successful exit. fibo expansion suits me. what suits you?

i am aware i am limiting my potential gains, but that's just potential. i like it real - bagged.

just use the signals 1.7. when counter trend trading aim 5-10pips max. and those pips come in 1-2 hours not 5 mins even though u are looking at M5.

for a start, have solid aims. you can start with 10pips per entry. remember, you take care of the cents, the dollars will follow. take it slowly but surely until u have confidence in the system.
  • #6,582
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:19am Feb 23, 2012 8:19am
Quoting Timur443
Can you please explain me how to use fibo expansion exits and SLs? Thanks in advance.
i made a screen capture. can u check #6549 ? thanks
  • #6,583
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:40am Feb 23, 2012 8:40am
Quoting yelena
i dont know about you but here's my screen capture 14:55 buy

i have 6000 bars in chart history and in chart coz the ecount bars look at 3000 bars. i placed it at 6000 so it will have a 2nd history to compare. i dont know if my logic is right.
Strange.... I don't have that 14.55 signal either
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #6,584
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:49am Feb 23, 2012 8:49am
Quoting itsallover
Strange.... I don't have that 14.55 signal either
but did you get both 16:25 of both AU and AJ? that's 14 and 11 pips each for TP1

428+14+11=453 pips this week! yey:nerd:
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  • #6,585
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:53am Feb 23, 2012 8:53am
Quoting yelena
but did you get both 16:25 of both AU and AJ? that's 14 and 11 pips each for TP1

428+14+11=453 pips this week! yey:nerd:
Nope... didn't get that either
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #6,586
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:54am Feb 23, 2012 8:54am
Quoting MagicMike
Eval, are you planing on doing more testing on the indicators that comer coded to develop your system around his indicators?

The reason I am asking is because I am starting to develop a problem with the original extreme indicator that is not present with the new extreme spike indicator.

Please check out the pics below. The first pic is of the 1.7 matrix and extreme indicator V2. Please notice the amount of spikes and siganls that I received in both indicators. The second pic is of the same exact indicators at the same exact settings, all...
if you think that there are too many spike like in picture 1 then set PriceActionFilter to 2 or 3. then it will look like in picture 2.
with comers indicator this will never happen any more.
i'm trading with his new indiactors and i have to say that they are very stable.
  • #6,587
  • Feb 23, 2012 8:58am Feb 23, 2012 8:58am
Quoting itsallover
Nope... didn't get that either


im sorry i dont know how to help i gave my tpl and settings and screen captures. im just an end user myself too
  • #6,588
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:04am Feb 23, 2012 9:04am
Quoting yelena


im sorry i dont know how to help i gave my tpl and settings and screen captures. im just an end user myself too
Really appreciate your good efforts - well done!
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #6,589
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:05am Feb 23, 2012 9:05am
Quoting yelena
but did you get both 16:25 of both AU and AJ? that's 14 and 11 pips each for TP1

428+14+11=453 pips this week! yey:nerd:
Just a quick question Yelena, on your template you have the tp set at atr, if you use fibo why not use the one built in to the signaller?
  • #6,590
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:09am Feb 23, 2012 9:09am
Can someone pls point me to them?

thx!
  • #6,591
  • Edited 9:29am Feb 23, 2012 9:19am | Edited 9:29am
Quoting yelena
but did you get both 16:25 of both AU and AJ? that's 14 and 11 pips each for TP1

428+14+11=453 pips this week! yey:nerd:

in fact your way of using this system is to get out of trade very quickly with a small amount of pips ... but often and whatever the trend is...
it seems to be really effective.
we're all trying to catch the big run but it's not easy to do... your way of trading seems to be more lucrative.
good job
  • #6,592
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:21am Feb 23, 2012 9:21am
Quoting Mediator
if you think that there are too many spike like in picture 1 then set PriceActionFilter to 2 or 3. then it will look like in picture 2.
with comers indicator this will never happen any more.
i'm trading with his new indiactors and i have to say that they are very stable.
Thanks Mediator for the response. I think I am going to switch to comer's indicators as well then.
  • #6,593
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:22am Feb 23, 2012 9:22am
Quoting ohammond
Just a quick question Yelena, on your template you have the tp set at atr, if you use fibo why not use the one built in to the signaller?
in the 9:30 trade, i received both M5 and H1 signals. so I followed H1.

the 11:55 counter trade was purely PA, no symphonie there but i still used fibo for exit

the 14:55 were simultaneous M5 and H1, so i still used H1.

the 16:25 was an M5 so i used M5. however, i did received H1 3 bars afterwards, but that was already TP1 in M5 so i bagged what i could.

makes sense?
  • #6,594
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:28am Feb 23, 2012 9:28am
Quoting yelena


im sorry i dont know how to help i gave my tpl and settings and screen captures. im just an end user myself too

yelena,
So glad to see you achieved such a good score in this week, congrats! That really gives me more confidence on Symphony, although I still cann't get consistent and reliable pips with it, sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, although I really strictly follow the instructions. I'm not sure whether it's because of my TimeZone, I spent most of time with Asian session, the market of which you know is not so strong and trendful.

I totally agree a sentence you said before, the critical thing is how to exit, even if one can enter successfully, he may still fail due to wrong exit. I'm quite insterested on Fibo system you used, do you mind to share it and show us how you use it?

Appreciate it and Happy trading
  • #6,595
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:35am Feb 23, 2012 9:35am
Quoting bobmorloc
in fact your way of using this system is to get out of trade very quickly with a small amount of pips ... but often and whatever the trend is...
it seems to be really effective.
we're all trying to catch the big run but it's not easy to do... you're way of trading seems to be more lucrative.
good job

i envy those who knocks 100+ pips in 1 sitting. but i made an apples-to-apples comparison in those 7 months of simulation (i only demo'ed sympnohie for roughly 6 months) of waiting for the 100's vs bagging what i can. and the bagging outweighed the 100's by staggering 1300%

we must remember that symphonie wasn't designed to get us the tops and the bottoms, but just a good part of the trend. so i keep that in mind every time i position - just a good part of the trend.

but im a noob. so please dont take my reco just like that. yesterday, in the day trade i lost 137 pips, do remember that. i was just lucky to wait til that 17:00-ish signal then i slept. I could have been burned with another loss of 50. luckily i wasn't. you can use the LFH simulator and see the results for yourself. it allows you to put trades and take them out like real trading would. no peaking in the future results
  • #6,596
  • Feb 23, 2012 9:51am Feb 23, 2012 9:51am
3 nice trades on EURUSD today.
+30 pips.
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  • #6,597
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:00am Feb 23, 2012 10:00am
yelena
i have symphonie 1.7 in my MT4 with 3 currencies, but when M5 bar end the pc have one delay/block 20/30 seconds.
is this normal ?
it happens in your pc too ?

Quoting yelena
in the 9:30 trade, i received both M5 and H1 signals. so I followed H1.

the 11:55 counter trade was purely PA, no symphonie there but i still used fibo for exit

the 14:55 were simultaneous M5 and H1, so i still used H1.

the 16:25 was an M5 so i used M5. however, i did received H1 3 bars afterwards, but that was already TP1 in M5 so i bagged what i could.

makes sense?
  • #6,598
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:07am Feb 23, 2012 10:07am
Quoting fxwall
yelena
i have symphonie 1.7 in my MT4 with 3 currencies, but when M5 bar end the pc have one delay/block 20/30 seconds.
is this normal ?
it happens in your pc too ?

oh gosh, no not normal.

i dedicated my unit for trading only and bare word, excel, calcu and paint to ensure i get the fastest response. no music no videos, nothing that can cause any potential delay. but my approach could be wrong.

delete your MT4 and all its caches.. everything. then reload a fresh one.

anyone who is a techy who could help our friend here?
  • #6,599
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:07am Feb 23, 2012 10:07am
explain to me please because i'm not understanding.
if you respected the rule of extreme spike (until 4/begin 5) bar end you canīt do this 3 trades like this, you must close the order before reach your target, right ?

Quoting gregh286
3 nice trades on EURUSD today.
+30 pips.
  • #6,600
  • Feb 23, 2012 10:46am Feb 23, 2012 10:46am
Quoting fxwall
explain to me please because i'm not understanding.
if you respected the rule of extreme spike (until 4/begin 5) bar end you canīt do this 3 trades like this, you must close the order before reach your target, right ?
Are you waiting for the exteme with colour and close of the candle that spawned it for exit.

you might be better setting your stops at swing high for sell trades and swing low for buy trades instead of using the extreme as an exit..

There were two trades today trading this style one around 50 pips and one around 40 pips..

Just try tomorrow on 5min with demo and which feels best for you....if you are not sure what swing highs and lows are there pleanty of info out there to help you..
Thank You James16, Fijitrader, Mbqb1, ghous, Pinbar and Jarroo. cpfleger
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