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  • #681
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:20am Feb 23, 2012 3:20am
Quoting candletiger
was PA not already a bit deep in the channel?
That is the trade off of using the EA. Your fills will be a bit lower, but that is compensated by having the trade start in the proper direction. You will make a little less on your winners, but you will have almost no trades start off against you. Again, I considered this when starting this thread. I decided to leave it out, but when I saw some of you triggering your stops initially, I decided to put it in. Take into account that I donīt use close stops so I am used to having the initial move start against me and it doesnīt bother me, but if you use stops and they are triggered, that becomes a big issue. I have to adapt the system to the way YOU trade or it will not work for YOU. For me, itīs not very relevant. I donīt mind the swings and in the long run I can save a few pips by not using the EA, but if the system is going to work for everyone, I realized it has to be there.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #682
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:26am Feb 23, 2012 3:26am
Quoting Alex84
does the ea set a tp and a sl ?
No. You must do that manually by modifying the order once it triggers. I have a fantastic and very sophisticated EA (MPTM System) made by Steve Hopwood that is great at all the money management. I intend to introduce it as an addition to the system later on, but if you want it now, give me your email and I will send it to you. The way you use it is by applying it right after you remove the initial order EA.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #683
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:28am Feb 23, 2012 3:28am
Quoting Alorente
For example, the EurUsd EA just triggered by crossing the White line. I was already in because I jumped the gun, but from now on I will also only use this to go along with what you are doing. My entry into the Gold Short was done with the EA. Notice how it kept going lower, because it triggered in the direction that you want. In this case down.
why did you get short on gold as te bands are up and that the pa is already between the bands
  • #684
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:30am Feb 23, 2012 3:30am
Quoting Alex84
hmmm
i placed the buy ea on uy
and it placed a trade as the pa is still between the bands
You have to apply the EA once you price touches or crosse the outer band. If you do it after and price is across the white line, it will trigger it immediately. Apply it when you get rule 3 (Spike) and before or immediately after Rule 4 is valid (Color Change).
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #685
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:32am Feb 23, 2012 3:32am
Quoting Alorente
You have to apply the EA once you price touches or crosse the outer band. If you do it after and price is across the white line, it will trigger it immediately. Apply it when you get rule 3 (Spike) and before or immediately after Rule 4 is valid (Color Change).
Also, be careful to apply the correct EA, Long or Short. If you apply the wrong one, you may get the opposite order of what you want. Iīve done it a couple of times, so beware.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #686
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:37am Feb 23, 2012 3:37am
Hi Al
first congratulates a very nice system - just test it.
I have an idea, instead using the white line. Please check if I did not get better with this indicator of ON Sidus v2 settings:
Fast EMA - 4
slow EMA - 10
RSI Peroid - 17

I play when you get a turn signal arrow.
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  • #687
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:39am Feb 23, 2012 3:39am
Alorente

My ea hasn`t triggered GBP/USD sell, and yours ?
  • #688
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:41am Feb 23, 2012 3:41am
Quoting LuisPrinc
Alorente

My ea hasn`t triggered GBP/USD sell, and yours ?
No. Unfortunately I jumped the gun this morning and sold at 1.5692. I could have gotten a better fill had I waited for the EA.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #689
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:46am Feb 23, 2012 3:46am
Tip:

Here is a high percentage scalping strategy with the Extreme TMA System and the EAs. When the EA triggers, set your TP to exit at the center line of the TMA.

Even better, set the TP at 10 pips profit from your entry point.

I use this strategy often for nice quick profits. The downside is that price may continue on to the other band, but it is quick and consistent profits.

Always make sure that the white line is not to close to the center line. The closer it is to the band, the better your trade results will be.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #690
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:53am Feb 23, 2012 3:53am
Tip:

The extreme TMA System works great on H1 and H4 time frames without changing any inputs. A great strategy and a lot of fun is to run one position with the H4 or H1 TF and get the full move of the PA, and at the same time, use the scalping method with the M15 TF. You will have a lot fewer trades with the higher TF but while you wait, you can scrape yourself some quick profits with the scalping method.

The scalping method also works great on the M1 and M5 time frame.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #691
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:57am Feb 23, 2012 3:57am
just out of curiosity why is the MA histo set at a period of 10?

just want to know the thinking process as to that period and not 5 or something like that

X
X-man the legendary conqueror of markets
  • #692
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:00am Feb 23, 2012 4:00am
Quoting X-Man
just out of curiosity why is the MA histo set at a period of 10?

just want to know the thinking process as to that period and not 5 or something like that

X
It fits better a move to the other band. a setting of 5 will trigger opposite color bars several times before reaching the other band. You can change it to your preference. I set it at 10 to not be tempted to exit the position to soon.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #693
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:04am Feb 23, 2012 4:04am
Quoting X-Man
just out of curiosity why is the MA histo set at a period of 10?

just want to know the thinking process as to that period and not 5 or something like that

X
X-Man, can you come up with a different spin on how to fit your wave concept extremes to this system? Any ideas? As I said on page 1, this is a fine system but I am sure we can make it better and more profitable. Any suggestions that may increase profitability and/or reduce risk are highly welcome.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #694
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:05am Feb 23, 2012 4:05am
Quoting X-Man
My risk/reward for a 15m chart would be 1:2 , but if it dont reach that target i would lock it when it reaches the other side of the band.
I would not risk more than 30 pips on a 15m chart so i would set my SL between 25 to 30 pips a trade.

Yesterday the pairs I traded bounced off the daily pivot so i placed my SL on the other side of the pivot which was around 15 to 30pips SL.

Personally I think a 100 pips SL for a 15M TF is too large. I am not ready to risk that much on 15m but i am ready to risk about 20 to 30pips.

I trade the 1H and the...

X-Man, great post!

I'm so glad that we can discuss this openly and Al doesn't mind us adopting his system to our individual MMs.

X-Man, I agree that 20-25-30 pips should be enough for M-15. As a matter of fact I'll probably start with only 20 pips and then I'll see whether I have to make it bigger or not.

Of course, Al is right when he says "the possibility of repeated spikes at the top (or bottom)", but I'm planning to use not stop-loss per say but rather a pending hedging order (buy-stop if I sell and sell-stop if I buy) placed 20 pips from the price I entered. So it would be possible to recover the trade even if the price spikes and goes more than 20 pips against me.
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #695
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:06am Feb 23, 2012 4:06am
GbpUsd just doesnīt want to come down. Itīs floating in thin air. It will though, it will...
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #696
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:07am Feb 23, 2012 4:07am
Alorente

When did you mean EA selled Gpbusd ?
  • #697
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:09am Feb 23, 2012 4:09am
Quoting Favorite
X-Man, great post!

I'm so glad that we can discuss this openly and Al doesn't mind us adopting his system to our individual MMs.

X-Man, I agree that 20-25-30 pips should be enough for M-15. As a matter of fact I'll probably start with only 20 pips and then I'll see whether I have to make it bigger or not.

Of course, Al is right when he says "the possibility of repeated spikes at the top (or bottom)", but I'm planning to use not stop-loss per say but rather a pending hedging order (buy-stop if I sell and sell-stop if I buy) placed 20 pips...
Great suggestion Mike!! I am going to write up your hedging strategy for page 1 this weekend. If you can detail it for me, I would really appreciate it.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #698
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:09am Feb 23, 2012 4:09am
Quoting LuisPrinc
Alorente

When did you mean EA selled Gpbusd ?
The EA has not triggered an order yet on GbpUsd.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #699
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:11am Feb 23, 2012 4:11am
Quoting Alorente
The EA has not triggered an order yet on GbpUsd.
Almost there now...
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #700
  • Feb 23, 2012 4:12am Feb 23, 2012 4:12am
Al, do we also have to wait for the candle close after the MA cross lines while trading the 1 hour and 4 hour time frames?
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