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  • #6,421
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:18am Feb 22, 2012 9:18am
Quoting unclenorbert
Hi Eval and all,

First, thank you for this extremely interesting thread!

i have a clarifying question:

if 30 bps profit has not yet been reached, and we get an extreme spike, you say exit immediately...so don't wait the 4 bars?

Thanks!

UN
It is really your decision. I personally wait the 4 bars due to the repaint nature of the Extreme Indikator. However, if I feel uncomfortable with the way price action is going I may exit on the 1st extreme spike bar. So, it is really up to you on what you feel is most comfortable.

''Remember you can never go broke taking profit!''

Evaluator.:nerd:

  • #6,422
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:25am Feb 22, 2012 9:25am
...for the quick response.

UN
  • #6,423
  • Feb 22, 2012 10:19am Feb 22, 2012 10:19am
I've been following this system for some time now. What I am wondering is if anyone has had good results trading higher timeframes.... Such as a 1H with a 4H Sentiment/Emotion confirmation. I assume the system will produce good results in higher times with adjusted TP and SL. BUt I'm hoping someone can confirm that. The reason I ask is because it lowers trading cost and, I think I read someplace that the indicators have less repainting in higher timeframes. If thats the case, then higher TF is the way to go for me. Has anyone had good results with anything over 5-15 combo? Maybe 1-4h or 4h-1d?

Also, on the 1 min system by REALJUMPER, it doesnt seem like the STO meets the requierments of the system often. What I mean for example is, on a short - all the indicators line up, everything is a go, but STO is already trading below 50. This happens way more often then not. I'm wondering how people are getting 10-15 trades per day using this when I dont see it happening that often. Can someone clearify..... Thanks!
  • #6,424
  • Feb 22, 2012 10:34am Feb 22, 2012 10:34am
Quoting tmoney5474
I've been following this system for some time now. What I am wondering is if anyone has had good results trading higher timeframes.... Such as a 1H with a 4H Sentiment/Emotion confirmation. I assume the system will produce good results in higher times with adjusted TP and SL. BUt I'm hoping someone can confirm that. The reason I ask is because it lowers trading cost and, I think I read someplace that the indicators have less repainting in higher timeframes. If thats the case, then higher TF is the way to go for me. Has anyone had good results...
tmoney5474,

I am trading the thread account in 1 hour and have been since 27January2012. Also, the conditions that RelaJumper outlined in his 1 min method do occur and meet the requirements for Symphonie perfectly most of the time.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #6,425
  • Feb 22, 2012 10:52am Feb 22, 2012 10:52am
very good
is your tend line 30,5 ?


Quoting gregh286
yes, see attached. I am +40 and in one trade now.
  • #6,426
  • Feb 22, 2012 10:57am Feb 22, 2012 10:57am
Quoting Evaluator
tmoney5474,

I am trading the thread account in 1 hour and have been since 27January2012. Also, the conditions that RelaJumper outlined in his 1 min method do occur and meet the requirements for Symphonie perfectly most of the time.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Yeah but, it just scary. M1 TF is not for me.
  • #6,427
  • Feb 22, 2012 11:04am Feb 22, 2012 11:04am
Quoting tmoney5474
I've been following this system for some time now. What I am wondering is if anyone has had good results trading higher timeframes.... Such as a 1H with a 4H Sentiment/Emotion confirmation. I assume the system will produce good results in higher times with adjusted TP and SL. BUt I'm hoping someone can confirm that. The reason I ask is because it lowers trading cost and, I think I read someplace that the indicators have less repainting in higher timeframes. If thats the case, then higher TF is the way to go for me. Has anyone had good results...
I did a small work on 4h,I believe its good for trade. I used Pbb Fibo expansion idea for the sl and TP, I added a third tp target and the result is worth it.
  • #6,428
  • Feb 22, 2012 11:05am Feb 22, 2012 11:05am
Evaluator: Are you using the 1H with a 4H confirmation of Sentiment/emotion? Do you like trading the higher timeframes better then the 5/15?

Congrats on the great system! Looking forward to adding this to my tool box!
  • #6,429
  • Feb 22, 2012 11:09am Feb 22, 2012 11:09am
Just want to register my appreciation to Yelena or Ohammond or both for opening my eyes to AU,AJ and NU. They do better than EU in recent times with symphonie.
  • #6,430
  • Edited 11:23am Feb 22, 2012 11:13am | Edited 11:23am
I tried to play around with signal to signal 1 minute trades as described by "Manilaspurs" in his post no 6227.
One observation I made is that if we could have less extreme spikes -even stronger than the currently used as default- we could have saved us some losing trades when the market fluctuates in a very narrow band (appr. 20pts)
I tried to play with the extreme spike settings but with no results.
Has anyone tried something similar?
Any luck?

PS I am reffering to 1 min only.
Extreme spikes work perfectly to all other time frames...
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  • #6,431
  • Feb 22, 2012 11:33am Feb 22, 2012 11:33am
sorry but you call AU=AUDUSD and AJ= ???

thanks

Quoting yelena
last week 600+ pips AJ and AU
this week 130+ pips AJ, AU and EU. real money.

my stop loss is break of previous high/low, and i position in M5 based on H1's PA and then take it out in H1.

but stick to post#1's entry and exit rules. its just a personal preference after 6 months of having symphonie in demo. and you are talking to a newbie :nerd:
  • #6,432
  • Feb 22, 2012 11:40am Feb 22, 2012 11:40am
Quoting thomasK
I tried to play around with signal to signal 1 minute trades as described by "Manilaspurs" in his post no 6227.
One observation I made is that if we could have less extreme spikes -even stronger than the currently used as default- we could have saved us some losing trades when the market fluctuates in a very narrow band (appr. 20pts)
I tried to play with the extreme spike settings but with no results.
Has anyone tried something similar?
Any luck?

PS I am reffering to 1 min only.
Extreme spikes work perfectly to all other time frames...
if you use the extreme cycle indicator from post #1 then set PriceActionFilter to 2 or 3. this minimize the peaks alot. especially if you think there are too many spikes then set to 3. this improves a lot.
  • #6,433
  • Feb 22, 2012 12:02pm Feb 22, 2012 12:02pm
Evaluator,
i'm testing symphonie TF H1, and i just have one signal at 17:00 GMT, for go LONG.

do you confirm that in your trading?
it's only to see if i'm making well...
thanks
  • #6,434
  • Feb 22, 2012 12:11pm Feb 22, 2012 12:11pm
Quoting fxwall
sorry but you call AU=AUDUSD and AJ= ???

thanks
AJ = Aud/JPY

Hope this helps
Thank You James16, Fijitrader, Mbqb1, ghous, Pinbar and Jarroo. cpfleger
  • #6,435
  • Feb 22, 2012 12:17pm Feb 22, 2012 12:17pm
Hi all, enjoyed trading the system today and reading through things. I got hammered a bit in my trade's, I believe this is because I have my indicators a little muddled. Things like the signal indi sending a buy alert when the extreme suggest's otherwise.

Would it be possible for someone to share there profitable working template for me?

Lastly thanks to all who have put hard working into creating this thread, especially the op.
  • #6,436
  • Feb 22, 2012 1:10pm Feb 22, 2012 1:10pm
Quoting Mediator
if you use the extreme cycle indicator from post #1 then set PriceActionFilter to 2 or 3. this minimize the peaks alot. especially if you think there are too many spikes then set to 3. this improves a lot.

Thanks Mediator.
Anybody else here using signal to signal trades on M1?
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  • #6,437
  • Feb 22, 2012 1:38pm Feb 22, 2012 1:38pm
Quoting fxwall
Evaluator,
i'm testing symphonie TF H1, and i just have one signal at 17:00 GMT, for go LONG.

do you confirm that in your trading?
it's only to see if i'm making well...
thanks

If your talking about the 1h EURUSD..... I have a short 37 hours ago and a confirmation of all 4 (short trade) about 32-33 hours ago......

What does everyone else have?
  • #6,438
  • Feb 22, 2012 1:42pm Feb 22, 2012 1:42pm
Quoting Evaluator
tmoney5474,

I am trading the thread account in 1 hour and have been since 27January2012. Also, the conditions that RelaJumper outlined in his 1 min method do occur and meet the requirements for Symphonie perfectly most of the time.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Just to verify, the settings on the STO for the 1M setup is 11,3,3 correct? And for a short signal, you want it to be above 50 but pointing down, and long below 50 and pointing up, correct? Again, I'm not sure how you guys are seeing this setup happening so often. More often then not, the STO has gone to far. For example, about 20 min ago on the GBPUSD, we had a GREAT short setup, but the STO was already down to 32.... What am I missing?
  • #6,439
  • Feb 22, 2012 1:47pm Feb 22, 2012 1:47pm
sorry i canīt help
i'm just testing but in tf 1H it give me buy signal with all 4 indicators blue

Quoting tmoney5474
Just to verify, the settings on the STO for the 1M setup is 11,3,3 correct? And for a short signal, you want it to be above 50 but pointing down, and long below 50 and pointing up, correct? Again, I'm not sure how you guys are seeing this setup happening so often. More often then not, the STO has gone to far. For example, about 20 min ago on the GBPUSD, we had a GREAT short setup, but the STO was already down to 32.... What am I missing?
  • #6,440
  • Feb 22, 2012 2:19pm Feb 22, 2012 2:19pm
Quoting fxwall
sorry i canīt help
i'm just testing but in tf 1H it give me buy signal with all 4 indicators blue
Im testing the 1H also. Do you have a short signal about 30-35 hours ago on the EURUSD? I do.... I've been short since then. No other extream spikes have painted. Are you seeing the same thing?
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