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  • #441
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:15am Feb 22, 2012 9:15am
Quoting Alex84

It seems you donīt understand it? Let me know if I can answer any questions.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #442
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:19am Feb 22, 2012 9:19am
Quoting Alorente
It seems you donīt understand it? Let me know if I can answer any questions.
Let me explain further. Your main account has 50,000. You have 10 other accounts open. You see three trade opportunities. You transfer 2000 into each account. That occurs in seconds. You then place each trade in a different account. This protects your remaining balance against any possible disaster that may happen and it removes the worry of placing stop losses, etc. Itīs easy and it is safe and it works.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #443
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:20am Feb 22, 2012 9:20am
Quoting Alorente
I am a TA purist also. This comes from my analysis of the Dollar Index chart and not from any fundamentals. That doesnīt mean you canīt trade the system by, itself, you can, but I prefer trading the system in the context of what all the charts that I follow tell me. It all boils down to probabilities. I like to have many charts and TFs line up before I pull the trigger.
I gotcha! I just figured if we could get a pull back and a valid signal, that we could possibly score a few pips both ways. That way, we are following our rules. That is just me though.....
  • #444
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:20am Feb 22, 2012 9:20am
Quoting torkay77
EURGBP just gave a short signal with 2 red bars 3 minutes ago but they are blue now..according to the rules was it correct to enter than
Yes.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #445
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:21am Feb 22, 2012 9:21am
Quoting torkay77
EURGBP just gave a short signal with 2 red bars 3 minutes ago but they are blue now..according to the rules was it correct to enter than
I saw this, but by the time the bar closed my screen was already blue so there was no "valid" signal. Did you jump the gun??
  • #446
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:22am Feb 22, 2012 9:22am
Quoting torkay77
EURGBP just gave a short signal with 2 red bars 3 minutes ago but they are blue now..according to the rules was it correct to enter than
if 2 bars were red as you already have the spike and pa is out the band, it's a valid signal
could have take it
so far mine is all blue so i dont' take the short
it will repeat may be before the close of the actual bar
  • #447
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:24am Feb 22, 2012 9:24am
Quoting Alorente
It seems you donīt understand it? Let me know if I can answer any questions.
yep
does that mean you manage 18 accounts at least ?
plus other accounts for recovery trades ???
  • #448
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:24am Feb 22, 2012 9:24am
Quoting distantpulse
I gotcha! I just figured if we could get a pull back and a valid signal, that we could possibly score a few pips both ways. That way, we are following our rules. That is just me though.....
Sure. Price moves from band to band over 90% of the time. Itīs just a matter of how long it will take to move there and where the band will be pricewise when it does.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #449
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:25am Feb 22, 2012 9:25am
Quoting Alorente
Let me explain further. Your main account has 50,000. You have 10 other accounts open. You see three trade opportunities. You transfer 2000 into each account. That occurs in seconds. You then place each trade in a different account. This protects your remaining balance against any possible disaster that may happen and it removes the worry of placing stop losses, etc. Itīs easy and it is safe and it works.
so it means you place your recovery trade only when un sub account crashed ?
  • #450
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:26am Feb 22, 2012 9:26am
Well, well... Gold ended up crossing the band after all to 1749 to the Daily Pivot. I figured it would. I left some pips on the table on that one.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #451
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:28am Feb 22, 2012 9:28am
Great short on EURAUD. Just went in with the 3 conditions active.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #452
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:30am Feb 22, 2012 9:30am
Quoting distantpulse
I saw this, but by the time the bar closed my screen was already blue so there was no "valid" signal. Did you jump the gun??
it's red again...will give it a try on demo
  • #453
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:33am Feb 22, 2012 9:33am
Quoting Alorente
In my case i use 50 to 1 leverage. 1 lot on EURUSD requires 2,000 euros of margin. If for instance this imaginary account is 50,000 euros, 4% of that will allow me to enter a 1 lot trade (2000 euro margin) Itīs true I donīt use a stop loss but I use several accounts, one for each position. So if I have a trade on for one lot with 2000 euro margin and the drawdown brings that down to 0, that account is closed automatically, thus limiting my loss to a maximum of 4% of my account balance. many big traders use this "Box" system instead of stop losses....
In past I used this system too but it was constraint me to juggle between all accounts. Now I define stop loss, it's simpler and better.
  • #454
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:33am Feb 22, 2012 9:33am
Quoting torkay77
EURGBP just gave a short signal with 2 red bars 3 minutes ago but they are blue now..according to the rules was it correct to enter than
Quoting Alorente
Yes.
Alorente, I did understand the flow of the TMA is important, or am I wrong?

Quoting Alorente
Another point. The ideal trades are those that go with the flow of the TMA. In other words, If you are shorting, you want the TMA to be level or dropping at that moment, not rising steeply. It makes sense. If it is rising steeply, the lower band will be rising also and the profit potential will be reduced as time goes by. If the TMA is dropping when you short, the lower band is moving away from PA so your profit will improve. Many of the trades occur when the TMA is level after having a strong rise, like for example where Gold is right now.
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  • #455
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:40am Feb 22, 2012 9:40am
yeah, it's definetly safer to only look for shorts in downtrend and for longs in uptrend (golden rul of trend trading), but PA is over pivot 3 and i am scaling in with small positions, so risk is kept small
  • #456
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:46am Feb 22, 2012 9:46am
Quoting Alex84
so it means you place your recovery trade only when un sub account crashed ?
No. 1 lot of EURUSD has to drop close to 270 pips for the account to close. I place my recovery trade when it drops by 100 pips. In all honesty, since I use the Extreme TMA system, I have never had an account closed and I only had to use recovery (100 pips) twice. This system is good at keeping you out of serious trouble. I did drawdown one account with another system before, but not with this one.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #457
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:50am Feb 22, 2012 9:50am
Great thread!

So on the AUDUSD are we looking at a possible long here?

thanks
Lionsden
  • #458
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:56am Feb 22, 2012 9:56am
For those that donīt understand how recovery works. Let me give you a simple example:

2- I open a 1 lot order in account A.

2- Account A drops 100 pips.

3- I open 1 lot trade on account B.

4- If price recovers 50 pips I am at BE on the total of both trades and I close trades in both accounts A and B. (A= -50, B= +50 Total = 0)

Please, read the doc on Recovery. It is worth while.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #459
  • Feb 22, 2012 9:59am Feb 22, 2012 9:59am
Quoting lionsden
Great thread!

So on the AUDUSD are we looking at a possible long here?

thanks
Lionsden
Price is too close to center line with TMA dropping leaving little room for profit to the opposite band. Not a high % trade.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #460
  • Feb 22, 2012 10:01am Feb 22, 2012 10:01am
EURUSD has spent most of the day within a 30 pip range. Hard to make pips today.
Observation is the path to discovery.
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