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  • #5,961
  • Feb 19, 2012 7:02pm Feb 19, 2012 7:02pm
Quoting Elmago
Sorry for my insistence friends but I would like to clarify a doubt.

The stop is set to 50 but security is rarely touched.

When it's time to close an operation at a loss?

That is what they are looking to get out of a negative operation?

I watched the entire post 3 times but as the English very hard for me not clear to me eses point.

Thank you.
Hi Elmago,

Per post #1 - you wait for 4 indicators to be aligned.
You enter and set stop 50 pips.
Now you wait for another Extreme Spike or Trendline change.
While you wait, the price moves up and down - it can go against you. Here you need a stop to protect you if it goes too much the wrong way.
If the stop is not hit you exit as per post #1.

Hope that helps!
Comer
  • #5,962
  • Feb 19, 2012 7:10pm Feb 19, 2012 7:10pm
Hi All,

I fixed a couple of bugs. Also, as I watched today's action - I though the Daily pivot from Sunday is not meaningful. So I added a new parameter "Ignore_Weekend" It will cause the indicator to ignore Saturday and Sanday and take Daily (and below) Pivot from Friday .

Does that make sense?

Regards,
Comer
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  • #5,963
  • Feb 19, 2012 7:28pm Feb 19, 2012 7:28pm
Quoting comer
Hi All,

I fixed a couple of bugs. Also, as I watched today's action - I though the Daily pivot from Sunday is not meaningful. So I added a new parameter "Ignore_Weekend" It will cause the indicator to ignore Saturday and Sanday and take Daily (and below) Pivot from Friday .

Does that make sense?

Regards,
Comer
thanks comer
do your pivots change from the ones included in Symphonie Trading signal 1.7 ?
  • #5,964
  • Feb 19, 2012 7:41pm Feb 19, 2012 7:41pm
Using Ohammonds scalping, as she first laid it out, and knowing my preference for HA candles when scalping, I applied the HA to ohammonds method. So now it's a mix of her method and mine!! The charts below are M1 charts btw, by this works fine on M5 as well

Just sayin'........
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  • #5,965
  • Feb 19, 2012 7:58pm Feb 19, 2012 7:58pm
Hi Esquina.

If the price goes against you, when it's time to leave before 50 pips stop?
  • #5,966
  • Feb 19, 2012 9:24pm Feb 19, 2012 9:24pm
Quoting Elmago
Hi Esquina.

If the price goes against you, when it's time to leave before 50 pips stop?
Hi,

When a candle closes and you see at least 4 extreme spike colors against you, that is your first exit signal. You exit with whatever you have, profit or not.


That is the first exit signal you will see if you follow the Symphonie System with the instructions on Post #1.
  • #5,967
  • Feb 19, 2012 9:41pm Feb 19, 2012 9:41pm
Hi Ohammond/Realjumper, in regards to Ohammonds scalping strategy. Could you take a look at the chart below and tell me whether the entries are at the blue or green vertical lines.

Thanks

-Ian
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  • #5,968
  • Feb 19, 2012 9:53pm Feb 19, 2012 9:53pm
Quoting dumplin_eater
Hi Ohammond/Realjumper, in regards to Ohammonds scalping strategy. Could you take a look at the chart below and tell me whether the entries are at the blue or green vertical lines.

Thanks

-Ian
The way I do it is to open the trade on the first candle *clear* of the yellow MA, that is going in my direction. So for a long trade, I will enter on the first *bull* candle that is *clear* of the MA. For shorts, the first *bear* candle that is *clear* of the ma.

The PA we are getting right at this moment is particularly dead, and it's a bit risky scalping here. The Asian action (so to speak) might be all over now. Maybe not, but the PA is not moving much.
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  • #5,969
  • Feb 20, 2012 3:02am Feb 20, 2012 3:02am
Alorente

it seems that your scalping method is profitable even in this weak monday market...am i correct ?
what are your results so far since market opened ?
  • #5,970
  • Feb 20, 2012 3:32am Feb 20, 2012 3:32am
Quoting Alex84
Alorente

it seems that your scalping method is profitable even in this weak monday market...am i correct ?
what are your results so far since market opened ?
So far so good. Started at 8 CET. One profitable short and now on a profitable long still open. I find the Spike repaints more than expected but the MA Cross is pretty steady and reliable. Looking also at trying the 1M time frame. It is too early to judge. I´ll need until the end of the week to decide if the system has merit.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #5,971
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:01am Feb 20, 2012 4:01am
Quoting Alorente
So far so good. Started at 8 CET. One profitable short and now on a profitable long still open. I find the Spike repaints more than expected but the MA Cross is pretty steady and reliable. Looking also at trying the 1M time frame. It is too early to judge. I´ll need until the end of the week to decide if the system has merit.
you use ma crossover histo ? correct ? or only ma crossover line ?
  • #5,972
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:11am Feb 20, 2012 4:11am
Quoting Alex84
you use ma crossover histo ? correct ? or only ma crossover line ?
I use both. I follow the signal of the Histo, but I also keep an eye on the lines to see how they behave. Very important: You must wait for the bar to close before opening or closing trades.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #5,973
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:12am Feb 20, 2012 4:12am
Quoting Alorente
So far so good. Started at 8 CET. One profitable short and now on a profitable long still open. I find the Spike repaints more than expected but the MA Cross is pretty steady and reliable. Looking also at trying the 1M time frame. It is too early to judge. I´ll need until the end of the week to decide if the system has merit.
ma cross histo "repaints" a little also on current bar, but i guess you wait the candle close before basing your decision on color of ma cross histo ? correct ?
  • #5,974
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:14am Feb 20, 2012 4:14am
Quoting Alex84
ma cross histo "repaints" a little also on current bar, but i guess you wait the candle close before basing your decision on color of ma cross histo ? correct ?
Correct.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #5,975
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:26am Feb 20, 2012 4:26am
sorry Eval if we kind of pollute the thread as we talk on Realjunmper/Alorente scalping method/test, but i was quite skeptical before market opens, but as i follow this trades live, i'm quite impressed of the results even on this weak and uncertain market.
I think we can have nice complementary trades while waiting between classic symphony trades (All 4 indies as established by eval in first post) using the nice tools we have (signals 1.7 and the 4 other histo indies).
For example, one can trade classic symphony signals using a normal MM, and trade scalp signals using a lower MM. just an idea...

The point that remains to check, are the scalp signals so reliable when market is shaking a bit
  • #5,976
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:30am Feb 20, 2012 4:30am
Quoting Alex84
sorry Eval if we kind of pollute the thread as we talk on Realjunmper/Alorente scalping method/test, but i was quite skeptical before market opens, but as i follow this trades live, i'm quite impressed of the results even on this weak and uncertain market.
I think we can have nice complementary trades while waiting between classic symphony trades (All 4 indies as established by eval in first post).
Using the nice tools we have (signals 1.7 and the 4 other histo indies).
For ex, one can trade classic symphony trades using a normal MM, and trade scalp...
You can still scalp with symphonie.....with the current PA, just go down to a 1 minuet chart
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  • #5,977
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:32am Feb 20, 2012 4:32am
Quoting Alex84
sorry Eval if we kind of pollute the thread as we talk on Realjunmper/Alorente scalping method/test, but i was quite skeptical before market opens, but as i follow this trades live, i'm quite impressed of the results even on this weak and uncertain market.
I think we can have nice complementary trades while waiting between classic symphony trades (All 4 indies as established by eval in first post).
Using the nice tools we have (signals 1.7 and the 4 other histo indies).
For ex, one can trade classic symphony trades using a normal MM, and trade scalp...
Scalping is almost always more reliable with fast markets. Today´s market is not easy.

I think that the input we gain from this will help make Symphonie better. For example, I have already seen that Comer´s rework of the Emotion indicator (MA Crossover Histo) is more accurate than the old Emotion indi.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #5,978
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:37am Feb 20, 2012 4:37am
Quoting Alorente
Scalping is almost always more reliable with fast markets. Today´s market is not easy.

I think that the input we gain from this will help make Symphonie better. For example, I have already seen that Comer´s rework of the Emotion indicator (MA Crossover Histo) is more accurate than the old Emotion indi.
yep correct
that's what comer said in is very first post where he gave us the modified versions of indies
  • #5,979
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:37am Feb 20, 2012 4:37am
Quoting MagicMike
Lol. I totally agree.

This system kinda reminds me of a car a friend of mine used to have that he drag raced at the track. The car he had looked like crap. It was all rusty, need paint, leaked oil, etc, etc, but when he raced he usually won. He would always say, "It doesn't really matter how you get to the finish line, as long as you get there first." That's kinda like this system. It doesn't really matter if the code is messed up and it repaints like crazy, as long as it's putting money in my pocket, it works.
I thought I was the only the only one that didn't see the break. Why fix?
It gives pips like crazy. I'll stick to the main symphonie, until (if) the pips stop coming.
  • #5,980
  • Feb 20, 2012 4:39am Feb 20, 2012 4:39am
Quoting Alorente
Scalping is almost always more reliable with fast markets. Today´s market is not easy.

I think that the input we gain from this will help make Symphonie better. For example, I have already seen that Comer´s rework of the Emotion indicator (MA Crossover Histo) is more accurate than the old Emotion indi.

Strangely, I don't like the MA Crossover Histogram.....I prefer the lines!!
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