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  • #5,581
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:24am Feb 16, 2012 9:24am
Quoting Evaluator
That is what I am trying to understand. Is changing the ''MajorCycle'' value on the original indikator the same as changing the ''MinorMinExtremeHeightATRs'' on your cleaned up version of the Symphonie Extreme indikator? I need to beable to understand that before I can really test them so I have a direct comparison of apple to apple not apple to melon. See what I mean?
I understand completely . I am only having trouble to explain the difference and correspondence.
In the context of your question above: Length is roughly equivalent to MinorMinExtremeHeightATRs. And MajorCycle to MajorToMinorHeightRatio. With all the rest been set as on your screenshot.
One difference is that I use straight ATR, the original indicator uses SMA(250) of the simple bar range (High-Low).

Quoting Evaluator
P.S. Will you take the cleaned up version and make a Symphonie Matrix version 2 from it?
It is not on my list. I use Symphonie the "old fashion" way - the indicators don't take too much space in histogram form and I get the additional information out of the spike repainting "play" .

Regards,
Comer
  • #5,582
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:32am Feb 16, 2012 9:32am
Quoting yelena
so true! i took a nap coz i was up for 16 hrs straight already. but i was so confident on the system that i placed a buy with AU at 1.0679 even before the H1 bar closed with SL at 1.0644 and TP1 at 1.0719... just peeked, and my my, what you know, +40 pips again! wow, 607 pips! unbelievable! i feel like crying ..... with joy! 12% up in 4 days!

i think i will consider AUDCAD too!

im wiling to be a guinea pig for the project with comer. i have time in my hands since im doing hourly.... forward tests are better than backtesting
Your Ozzie entry was great. I entered on 1.06951
Good stuff on your 607 pips!
What timeframe do you trade on.
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #5,583
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:34am Feb 16, 2012 9:34am
Quoting Seabreeze
Use symphony indicators as your primary entry and exit rules with a bit of chart reading then use stocks and arrows as secondary indicators to strengthen whether you will take the trade or not..

Sometimes I will have taken a trade with no arrow showing but a candle or later if the arrow shows it makes me feel better..The arrows alone will not make you profitable.
Yes thanx for the advice
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #5,584
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:34am Feb 16, 2012 9:34am
Quoting comer
Symphonie_Market_Emotion_Indikator / Reverse_Stochastic_Histogram, Reverse_Stochastic_Lines
What are the last "dark blue" lines in the Reverse Stochs histogram indi ?
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  • #5,585
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:35am Feb 16, 2012 9:35am
It is possible to make good returns in hourly but the trades are far apart and take longer to materialize.[/quote]

This is actually a good thing, because you can make your pips and diversify your day also. To me this is excellent news.
  • #5,586
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:39am Feb 16, 2012 9:39am
Hi,

Currently I see opposite signals in Loonie between H1 and D1 (images attached). The D1 signals early UP and H1 signals late DOWN. How woud you handle a situation like that? Wait for H1 move to complete and enter in the direction of D1 signal if it's still there? Or is this a case of "in doubt - stay out"?

Regards,
Comer
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  • #5,587
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:10am Feb 16, 2012 10:10am
[quote= AU at 1.0679 even before the H1 bar closed with SL at 1.0644 and TP1 at 1.0719... just peeked, and my my, what you know, +40 pips again! wow, 607 pips! unbelievable! i feel like crying ..... with joy! 12% up in 4 days!

i think i will consider AUDCAD too!

im wiling to be a guinea pig for the project with comer. i have time in my hands since im doing hourly.... forward tests are better than backtesting[/QUOTE]

Yelena,

Congrats on making all those pips.

Curiosly I also got in on the AU exactly at 1.0679, my stop was 1.0645, my chart was the 30M and I also entered early. I entered just two candles before the signal.
  • #5,588
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:18am Feb 16, 2012 10:18am
  •  amcm
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very funny, you guys are the greatest...

Quoting realjumper
Thank you......we seem to be on the same page on many fronts
  • #5,589
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:19am Feb 16, 2012 10:19am
hi comer,

excellent work - please share your template

regards
guenter487
  • #5,590
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:20am Feb 16, 2012 10:20am
Quoting rivtrader
Yelena,

Congrats on making all those pips.

Curiosly I also got in on the AU exactly at 1.0679, my stop was 1.0645, my chart was the 30M and I also entered early. I entered just two candles before the signal.
Symphonie works well with AUDUSD, NZDUSD and USDCAD. Look at the daily chart and you'll know why. The hit ratio is higher than EURUSD or GBPUSD(worst one), but what's keeping me away is the low range and higher spread of those three pair.
  • #5,591
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:20am Feb 16, 2012 10:20am
Quoting lhDT
What are the last "dark blue" lines in the Reverse Stochs histogram indi ?
Quoting comer
Features: Added a different color for "fake" bars, so it is immediately apparent which potentially repainting and are not very reliable.

It's kind of like a "shadow". While signal in the "shadow" it may repaint, the further from the edge - the less likely, until it goes out from the shadow, which means those bars will never repaint.
  • #5,592
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:21am Feb 16, 2012 10:21am
Quoting lhDT
What are the last "dark blue" lines in the Reverse Stochs histogram indi ?
lhDT, May I ask you something about backtesting an EA? I need to stop EA the whole day when certain condition met on daily chart in the backtest, where I will be running other EA. Not able to stop the EA got the result mixed and reduce the overall win/loss ration. If I am not wrong, you and MaryJane test an EA back then. Thanks in advance.
  • #5,593
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:21am Feb 16, 2012 10:21am
Quoting guenter487
hi comer,

excellent work - please share your template

regards
guenter487
Just add the indicators with the default inputs, will you?
  • #5,594
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:22am Feb 16, 2012 10:22am
Quoting Passerby
lhDT, May I ask you something about backtesting an EA?
Of course, shoot !
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  • #5,595
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:40am Feb 16, 2012 10:40am
Quoting Passerby
Symphonie works well with AUDUSD, NZDUSD and USDCAD. Look at the daily chart and you'll know why. The hit ratio is higher than EURUSD or GBPUSD(worst one), but what's keeping me away is the low range and higher spread of those three pair.

Passerby,

I trade NU UC GJ GU EU EJ AU AJ. Over time the pairs take turns outperforming each other. I just try to be on the side of the better current performers. I do not let spread bother me if I feel a good move is coming. You can really get good moves sometimes if you pay attention to the 4 hour swings.

Regards
  • #5,596
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:43am Feb 16, 2012 10:43am
IhDT:

Any updates on v1.9 of your indicator?
  • #5,597
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:54am Feb 16, 2012 10:54am
Quoting Evaluator
dakuki,

Interesting link...thanks! I would suggest that you learn Elliott before just relying on an indikator to do it for you. I learned Elliott wave by reading a very well made book called ''ELLIOTT WAVE PRINCIPLE'' by Frost and Prechter. You can buy it on this link from amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Elliott-Wave-P.../dp/0471988499

I think if you read and are able to understand this book will go a long way into understanding market function and the structure that the market uses in its motions.

Best...

Thank You!!
  • #5,598
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:55am Feb 16, 2012 10:55am
Quoting zackery
Thanks a lot for your incredible effort
Which other 2 indis are not in the rePAINting -modus with your new coding ?
thanks in advance for your answer.
greetings zackery
Sorry, missed your question somehow
Trendline (CCI_Trend_with_trail or CCI_Histogram) and Fisher_Transform_Histogram are non-repainting. Except for the last bar update, of course.
The Reverse_Stochastic* or MA_Crossover* can be set to be non-repainting at the expense of the lag.
Extreme_Spike can also be non-repainting, but the cost is too great in my opinion.
  • #5,599
  • Feb 16, 2012 11:11am Feb 16, 2012 11:11am
Comer

One question for you Just want to ask about differences between your improvements and original symphony.
  • #5,600
  • Feb 16, 2012 11:18am Feb 16, 2012 11:18am
Quoting Alex84
Comer, do you recomand to use reverse stochastic or ma cross ?
which one is better ? or should be better ...?
Quoting comer
Comment: I think it's silly to use this esoteric line for just a simple cross with itself. Any price-following line will give the same signals or better. To illustrate that, I created an indicator based on exactly the same principles, but using simple WMA instead for line instead. The result - it gives smoother signals (i.e. less short 1-2 bar jerks of a color switch) and sooner with the same amount of repainting bars. You can see the comparison on the attached image #3.
I use MA cross.
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