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  • #3,861
  • Feb 13, 2012 11:42pm Feb 13, 2012 11:42pm
Quoting goldsurfer
Here it is, I used it for awhile but while this Indy will give entry signal with the good setups it will also leave you on the sideline scratching your head when you have a setup, voltameter says DO NO TRADE, and the market takes off.
That is exactly what every possible filter or indicator does - sometimes gives good setups, sometimes blocks good trades. Depends on ones style what way to trade. Either to stay out when the market is silent or to try to get in before moves. This particular system as described is based on possibly late entries (entry after move has already established, not before), so better to be careful.
  • #3,862
  • Feb 14, 2012 1:23am Feb 14, 2012 1:23am
Has nothing to do with trade setup, it is a volatility indy. Each his own, I do not like this Indicator.

cheers
  • #3,863
  • Feb 14, 2012 2:32am Feb 14, 2012 2:32am
Quoting goldsurfer
Has nothing to do with trade setup, it is a volatility indy. Each his own, I do not like this Indicator.

cheers
Sure, it is a matter of taste and style.
It still has much to do with setups if it is a part of rules. Then it just invalidates some setups.
  • #3,864
  • Feb 14, 2012 2:32am Feb 14, 2012 2:32am
Quoting Udine
OK.

understand now.

Udine
Hello Udine! EU 9 pp+, open position 10.15 in Moscow!
fanks!!
  • #3,865
  • Edited 3:27am Feb 14, 2012 3:02am | Edited 3:27am
I am on demo today, as my good friend Eric, has send me some scripts with hidden TP and SL to test.

As soon as I am done, and they work correctly I will post them here.

Green pips

Udine

Edit: returning to live with standard scripts
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,866
  • Feb 14, 2012 3:51am Feb 14, 2012 3:51am
Quoting pilot62
Hello Udine! EU 9 pp+, open position 10.15 in Moscow!
fanks!!
Привет Pilot62!
10.15 in Moscow = 6h15 GMT
This is not the right time since in post 3 Udine said he trades only from 7:00 - 17:00 GMT.
  • #3,867
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:09am Feb 14, 2012 4:09am
Quoting jeff75
Привет Pilot62!
10.15 in Moscow = 6h15 GMT
This is not the right time since in post 3 Udine said he trades only from 7:00 - 17:00 GMT.
correct observation

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,868
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:27am Feb 14, 2012 5:27am
Quoting jeff75
Привет Pilot62!
10.15 in Moscow = 6h15 GMT
This is not the right time since in post 3 Udine said he trades only from 7:00 - 17:00 GMT.
I do not want to argue with Udine as it is his thread but from my own experience I can say that 6-7 GMT is not so bad time for trading. Very often good trends start during this hour. At the same time 7-8 GMT is full of noise, although also tradeable if having enough experience and a good system.

EDIT: To avoid confusion with summer times and winter times in different time zones - what I meant is that hour before Frankfurt open is quite good and next hour (before London) is tricky.
  • #3,869
  • Feb 14, 2012 6:58am Feb 14, 2012 6:58am
Quoting Udine
correct observation

Udine
good!!!!!!!!!
  • #3,870
  • Feb 14, 2012 9:10am Feb 14, 2012 9:10am
GU signal.

TS kicked me out with +7 pips.

further testing the scripts and EA with hidden SL and TP.

I'll keep you posted.

Green pips

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,871
  • Feb 14, 2012 10:00am Feb 14, 2012 10:00am
EU + 6 pips.

think tomorrow I will post the scripts and Trail EA.

Green pips

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,872
  • Feb 14, 2012 10:05am Feb 14, 2012 10:05am
a lot of patience and 2 trades for a total of + 13 pips which is +3.25 % to the account.

Total for the week: +4.5 %

Green pips

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,873
  • Feb 14, 2012 10:56am Feb 14, 2012 10:56am
Quoting Udine
a lot of patience and 2 trades for a total of + 13 pips which is +3.25 % to the account.

Total for the week: +4.5 %

Green pips

Udine
Have you made special research on how trailing influences the result? I have no proof but trailing by 5 pip seems not effective at all with such a tiny target.
  • #3,874
  • Feb 14, 2012 11:32am Feb 14, 2012 11:32am
So I've finally decided to come out of the forum shadows, join a thread, and actively learn something. I have to say much thanks for the system Udine. I also took the GU trade earlier for a quick 11 pips.
  • #3,875
  • Feb 14, 2012 12:09pm Feb 14, 2012 12:09pm
Didn't get the move on EU as I was already busy in another trade;

+13 on AU!
  • #3,876
  • Edited 2:27pm Feb 14, 2012 1:36pm | Edited 2:27pm
Little Preview

The 2nd Indicator Window just shows the actual values the FIFO uses. Maybe some people find it usefull and want to play around with it. (I will probably add a MA just to see how it turns out ). The bigger Bars symbolize an Arrow. I also think that I will add a Symbol that will tell you if an arrow will form if the bar would be closed right now. This should improve your reaction time. I also created a script that places a pending order 1 pip over or below the last arrow bar.

Just by looking at the it looks like signals are better when the arrow is drawn on a bar with decreasing value. (see the last arrow for a counter example).
Anyways we should backtest these


What does make more sense? Showing the different periods of FIFO of the same timeframe or the same Period on different Timeframes?
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  • #3,877
  • Edited 4:56pm Feb 14, 2012 4:34pm | Edited 4:56pm
Good evening for everyone,
I'm quite new on ff... Just started to use Invictus... Looks really good.... I hope i'll read all posts
Regards,
hogart1
Poland Welcomes
  • #3,878
  • Feb 15, 2012 12:54am Feb 15, 2012 12:54am
Quoting Indrek
Have you made special research on how trailing influences the result? I have no proof but trailing by 5 pip seems not effective at all with such a tiny target.

indrek,

I have noticed during my demo trading, that more often than not, it protected my capital, so eventhough I might lose out on some +10 pip trades, It also protects me from losses.

I have said before, we have a saying in holland: a lot of small cows produce a lot of shit as well.... (just change cows into pips and shit into cash

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,879
  • Feb 15, 2012 1:09am Feb 15, 2012 1:09am
Quoting Kilian19
Little Preview

The 2nd Indicator Window just shows the actual values the FIFO uses. Maybe some people find it usefull and want to play around with it. (I will probably add a MA just to see how it turns out ). The bigger Bars symbolize an Arrow. I also think that I will add a Symbol that will tell you if an arrow will form if the bar would be closed right now. This should improve your reaction time. I also created a script that places a pending order 1 pip over or below the last arrow bar.

Just by looking at the it looks like signals are...

Kilian,

great job, looks interesting. keep us posted

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,880
  • Feb 15, 2012 1:16am Feb 15, 2012 1:16am
Quoting Udine
indrek,

I have noticed during my demo trading, that more often than not, it protected my capital, so eventhough I might lose out on some +10 pip trades, It also protects me from losses.
We would still need longer term data and research (6 months or so) to estimate if it protects more than it gives away by kicking us out from winning trades too early. With such a painful way of trading (waiting for hours and hours for 10 pips), it is very important to take maximum out of the rare trades.
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