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  • #5,301
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:32am Feb 14, 2012 4:32am
Quoting realjumper
Ok, well if that's what it says, that must be it

Seems a little late to me but I don't trade H1.....ohammond might be able to help out because she trades that TF very well
the trendline is just changing on this hour, there also hasn't been an up arrow yet. Just as I posted that, an up arrow is appearing
  • #5,302
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:33am Feb 14, 2012 4:33am
Quoting ohammond
Wasn't a fresh signal, but bounced nicely off the pivot (failed to close below it
Nice. Those pivot bounces are so reliable
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  • #5,303
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:35am Feb 14, 2012 4:35am
Quoting ohammond
the trendline is just changing on this hour, there also hasn't been an up arrow yet. Just as I posted that, an up arrow is appearing
On my H1, the current candle (still 26min to go) has all indis blue and has spawned an arrow. Seems awfully late to me, but like I said above, I don't trade this TF so I'll follow your lead.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,304
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:37am Feb 14, 2012 4:37am
Quoting realjumper
On my H1, the current candle (still 26min to go) has all indis blue and has spawned an arrow. Seems awfully late to me, but like I said above, I don't trade this TF so I'll follow your lead.
If this candle closed as a bull candle, I'll cut my short and go long. I'm feeling uneasy from the gap earlier.

PS: If the upper tail is not too long, I think we could visit or even make a new high on this pair.
  • #5,305
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:39am Feb 14, 2012 4:39am
Quoting Passerby
Rj, I'm curious what behind the arrow indie. Could you give me some insight on this one.

rj, im just going to spoil.... hope you don't mind.. im itching here. he seems so eager but loses balance. to give him some perspective.

This arrow indi is DPO period 7 that crossed the zero line. search DPO for you to understand what makes it so important to symphonie. symphonie is a momentum and trending approach to the market. if you have great volatility M5 is perfect!

if you don't, then take M30 or H1. if you see a candle bar in H1 with a long tail, consider looking at M5 or M1 for a small counter trading for 1-2hrs. in targeting those short counter trends, you can use TP1 of the fibo expansion that is embedded in signal v1.7 (and 1.8)
  • #5,306
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:42am Feb 14, 2012 4:42am
Quoting yelena
rj, im just going to spoil.... hope you don't mind.. im itching here. he seems so eager but loses balance. to give him some perspective.

This arrow indi is DPO period 7 that crossed the zero line. search DPO for you to understand what makes it so important to symphonie. symphonie is a momentum and trending approach to the market. if you have great volatility M5 is perfect!

if you don't, then take M30 or H1. if you see a candle bar in H1 with a long tail, consider looking at M5 or M1 for a small counter trading for 1-2hrs. in targeting those...
I don't mind at all Yelena......I'm impressed!!!!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,307
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:42am Feb 14, 2012 4:42am
Quoting realjumper
On my H1, the current candle (still 26min to go) has all indis blue and has spawned an arrow. Seems awfully late to me, but like I said above, I don't trade this TF so I'll follow your lead.
Its usually around 70-80 pips to the last swing low/high on 1hr but I don't think I will take it unless it closes above the daily pivot which I have at 1.3234. EDIT: Sorry 1.3218
  • #5,308
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:44am Feb 14, 2012 4:44am
Quoting ohammond
Its usually around 70-80 pips to the last swing low/high on 1hr but I don't think I will take it unless it closes above the daily pivot which I have at 1.3234.
Ok thanks. I can't see me trading this TF......too many pips left on the table for me.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,309
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:48am Feb 14, 2012 4:48am
EU is bouncing off descending channel and 100 sma, but has made a lower low on H4, if it fails to make a higher high, well, you know what to do on the lower timeframes...
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  • #5,310
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:49am Feb 14, 2012 4:49am
Quoting Passerby
If this candle closed as a bull candle, I'll cut my short and go long. I'm feeling uneasy from the gap earlier.

PS: If the upper tail is not too long, I think we could visit or even make a new high on this pair.
Mate.....with respect.....what you or I 'think' might happen is going to cost you money. Trade what you see. The problem with thinking in advance like this is that it is very easy to get married to the idea, and that makes life tough. If it goes to a new high, I'll trade it (already in a trade as it happens), but I will cut the long and reverse my position at the drop of a hat if the PA reverses.

This is the reason I don't draw trendlines and I don't pay too much attention to other formations.....it's too easy to get sucked into them at the expense of what is actually happening.

All I care about is what symphonie is telling me to do, but I do note things such as divergence because they are so reliable.

What do I think will happen next?......I don't know and I really don't care.....whatever happens, I'll be in that trade!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,311
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:52am Feb 14, 2012 4:52am
Quoting yelena
rj, im just going to spoil.... hope you don't mind.. im itching here. he seems so eager but loses balance. to give him some perspective.

This arrow indi is DPO period 7 that crossed the zero line. search DPO for you to understand what makes it so important to symphonie. symphonie is a momentum and trending approach to the market. if you have great volatility M5 is perfect!

if you don't, then take M30 or H1. if you see a candle bar in H1 with a long tail, consider looking at M5 or M1 for a small counter trading for 1-2hrs. in targeting...
Nice tips, thx. After looking at the volume which is very high. I think I'll just hold the current trade. A typical top/bottom usually came with a high volume.
  • #5,312
  • Feb 14, 2012 4:54am Feb 14, 2012 4:54am
Quoting yelena
rj, im just going to spoil.... hope you don't mind.. im itching here. he seems so eager but loses balance. to give him some perspective.

This arrow indi is DPO period 7 that crossed the zero line. search DPO for you to understand what makes it so important to symphonie. symphonie is a momentum and trending approach to the market. if you have great volatility M5 is perfect!

if you don't, then take M30 or H1. if you see a candle bar in H1 with a long tail, consider looking at M5 or M1 for a small counter trading for 1-2hrs. in targeting those...
I've got the DPO indi and it can't just be crossing 0 because the arrows don't line up.
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  • #5,313
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:01am Feb 14, 2012 5:01am
Closed my long trade for an even +50. That's 2 from 2 today for +77. Time for a coffee I think
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,314
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:04am Feb 14, 2012 5:04am
Quoting realjumper
Mate.....with respect.....what you or I 'think' might happen is going to cost you money. Trade what you see. The problem with thinking in advance like this is that it is very easy to get married to the idea, and that makes life tough. If it goes to a new high, I'll trade it (already in a trade as it happens), but I will cut the long and reverse my position at the drop of a hat if the PA reverses.

This is the reason I don't draw trendlines and I don't pay too much attention to other formations.....it's too easy to get sucked into them at the expense...
Exactly! Thinking too much about things will get you into trouble. Unless something obvious is staring you in the face, whether its a pivot, divergence etc then take the trade. On my chart earlier, there was a sell signal for instance just before my buy, the reason I didn't take it was I was waiting for it to close below the pivot again, when it didn't and bounced up, that was a more valid trade. Just bear those things in mind and you will win with this system more than you lose.
  • #5,315
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:05am Feb 14, 2012 5:05am
While it's a little quiet....read this.....it's quite sobering
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,316
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:11am Feb 14, 2012 5:11am
Yelena, I'm just curious. Is it if DPO crossed 0 from above the up arrow appear and vice versa?

Spoil me a little bit on this one please.
  • #5,317
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:15am Feb 14, 2012 5:15am
Quoting ohammond
I've got the DPO indi and it can't just be crossing 0 because the arrows don't line up.

DPO 7 crossing zeroline

x_prd 14
CountBars 300

that is the exact settings of the DPO
  • #5,318
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:16am Feb 14, 2012 5:16am
Quoting realjumper
Closed my long trade for an even +50. That's 2 from 2 today for +77. Time for a coffee I think
Good for you RJ
One day, ill be there myself....
  • #5,319
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:18am Feb 14, 2012 5:18am
Quoting Passerby
Yelena, I'm just curious. Is it if DPO crossed 0 from above the up arrow appear and vice versa?

Spoil me a little bit on this one please.

arrow down if it the DPO crossed the zero line ang going down. and vice versa.

its very easy to miss DPO crossing the zero line so the arrows are really super handy.
  • #5,320
  • Feb 14, 2012 5:20am Feb 14, 2012 5:20am
Quoting Sjr
Good for you RJ
One day, ill be there myself....
Thanks......this system will get you there.....just got to trust it and follow the rules. Still can't win every trade and we never will be able to, but the losses are small and the wins are consistent.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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