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  • #30,641
  • Feb 13, 2012 9:33am Feb 13, 2012 9:33am
Quoting traderathome
Master Sonicdeejay, thank you for exlaining how you place the necessary SL, your rules being:

1. The Place must be lower than the previous significant low (for Long), and must be higher than previous significant high (for Short).
2. The Place must not be more than 100-120 pips from the trade entry price (for EUR/USD).

In order to avoid confusion regarding rule #1, I have looked for another recent example of a Sonic R. System setup wherein The Place is not the same as a previous significant H/L created by the PA Wave...
That explanation was totally different from what I had previously taken as the correct method for placing the stoploss. It should help eliminate quite a few negative trades that get hit by the stoplosses being just below the L of the beginning wave line.

Thanks for the clarification Master and TAH!
  • #30,642
  • Feb 13, 2012 10:07am Feb 13, 2012 10:07am
EU:

Entered via triggered order (EP= 1.3241). Have been sleeping.
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  • #30,643
  • Edited 10:34am Feb 13, 2012 10:23am | Edited 10:34am
EU Comment:

The next flurry of high impact releases is not until tomorrow. If the market is building short positions (the reason for the current move down?) then PA might not be allowed to drop much further. The longer the market can swing prices up and down (rather than just down), the more profitable the average price of it's short building becomes. This PA might just be ranging, with the next move being back upwards. "The best laid plans of mice and men......", we'll see. No one ever knows stuff llike this for certain. And the market is a crafty, greedy beast ready to throw in a new twist anytime in order to take our money away from us.
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  • #30,644
  • Feb 13, 2012 10:32am Feb 13, 2012 10:32am
Hi again all.

I'm not sure if somebody has posted this before,
but maybe it might be something good to put here for those who require something on the chart to show "optimal trading times".

I added this to show
1) London Open and Close
2) New York Open and Close
3) AU Open and Close

That way, hopefully people can start trading at the optimal hours as well.
I'm certain it will help me, a newbie in this system.

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/201...5gvw-153kb.jpg
London and NewYork overlap, causing a black layer. The lines above and below the boxes show the High and the Low of each Open and Close.

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20120213-lrlp-62kb.jpg
Using today as an example.

I hope this helps..
Sorry if its a repost...

Thanks
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  • #30,645
  • Edited 11:08am Feb 13, 2012 10:38am | Edited 11:08am
Quoting Konata
Hi again all.

I'm not sure if somebody has posted this before,
but maybe it might be something good to put here for those who require something on the chart to show "optimal trading times".

I added this to show
1) London Open and Close
2) New York Open and Close
3) AU Open and Close

That way, hopefully people can start trading at the optimal hours as well.
I'm certain it will help me, a newbie in this system.
London and NewYork overlap, causing a black layer. The lines...
The Sonic R. System specifies the London session. If you look at the TAH charts some are using you will see that the vertical lines marking the London Open, New York Open and London Close are already provided as a feature in the SonicR Chart Panel, in both the 05-15-2011 and the 06-15-2011 TAH releases.

You seem to be using the SonicR Chart Panel. However, your post would indicate that you did not bother to follow the instructions in the releasing post that is linked in Post #1 of this thread, which were for you to familiarize yourself with all the features of the indicators by reading the user notes in the compiles of every indicator on the TAH template.

As far as the NY Close goes, that is immaterial. Same with AU open/close because it is asian session (not recommended for trading by Master Sonicdeejay).
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  • #30,646
  • Feb 13, 2012 11:05am Feb 13, 2012 11:05am
Forgive me..

But I can't seem to activate or find the vLine in the Panel.
If its not too much to ask, could u point that out for me to turn it on?

And what about other pairs? Like AUDUSD?
How do we change that on vLines?

Sorry and thanks.

Quoting traderathome
The Sonic R. System specifies the London session. If you look at the TAH charts some are using you will see that the vertical lines marking the London Open, New York Open and London Close are already provided as a feature in the SonicR Chart Panel. Even the New York Stock Exchange Open vertical line can be shown, if desired.

You seem to be using the SonicR Chart Panel. However, your post would indicate that you did not bother to follow the instructions in the releasing post, which were for you to familiarize yourself with all the features of...
  • #30,647
  • Edited 11:24am Feb 13, 2012 11:11am | Edited 11:24am
Quoting Konata
Forgive me..

But I can't seem to activate or find the vLine in the Panel.
If its not too much to ask, could u point that out for me to turn it on?

And what about other pairs? Like AUDUSD?
How do we change that on vLines?

Sorry and thanks.
If you are using the 07-16-2011 release, they aren't there. Otherwise they are. The 07-16-2011 release was without vLines and TzPivots, and intended to be simple to use. The SonicR Clock Panel suffices to ID the start and end of all of the significant markets and broker server pivots are more than adequate! If you are using one of the other two earlier releases, then just look down thru the External inputs to find the vLines section.

As I said, the Sonic R. System is only the London session. No provision is included for vLines for all the other unnecessary market open/closes. The Sonic R. System is elegantly simple; one reason it works so well! And it is intended to keep it that way!
  • #30,648
  • Feb 13, 2012 11:19am Feb 13, 2012 11:19am
Yes, it would seem I am using that particular release that does not have vLines.

Sorry.

Quoting traderathome
If you are using the 07-16-2011 release, they aren't there. Otherwise they are. Just look down thru the External inputs to find the vLines section.

As I said, the Sonic R. System is only the London session. No provision is included for vLines for all the other unnecessary market open/closes. The Sonic R. System is elegantly simple; one reason it works so well! And it is intended to keep it that way!
  • #30,649
  • Feb 13, 2012 11:58am Feb 13, 2012 11:58am
Quoting alkenany
WENT SHORT 3248
closed short +40 pips
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  • #30,650
  • Edited 1:42pm Feb 13, 2012 1:27pm | Edited 1:42pm
EU Comment:

London session gone two+ hours ago. NYC lunch hour gone, too. After the London close the US BBs pushed the price back up a ways to accomodate their next round of heavy shorting, which you can see on the chart.

The BBs have left the price around the whole number. Maybe it will require concerted effort to drive the price down thru this previous support/demand area. Maybe the US BBs have quit here thinking the next asian/FO/LO BBs will push the price back up so they can all enjoy shorting some more tomorrow, again at higher prices and before the high impact releases. Or, maybe the US BBs will make a sneak attack and push the price lower yet today.

We can never know what will happen. But it is very clear from the volume/price study that the concentrated trading today was not during the market's light investment pushes up. Instead, it was during those periods when prices were at their relative highs and during the subsequent moves down. This all points to closing of longs and/or opening of shorts; very bearish market activity.

WARNING: Speculative.
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  • #30,651
  • Feb 13, 2012 2:04pm Feb 13, 2012 2:04pm
AU:

This is showing quite bearish, too. Even the current PA shows the BBs pushing the price back up on light acitivity, after their heavy activity today at the relative highs and coming down from the highs.
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  • #30,652
  • Edited 8:00pm Feb 13, 2012 5:30pm | Edited 8:00pm
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Entered via triggered order (EP= 1.3241). Have been sleeping.
EU:

Trade #1 closed for 65 pips gain EP= 1.3241 to TP1= 1.3176. SL lowered to BE+30. Trade #2 still running.

Edit: Lowered SL another 30 pips to BE+60, just in case the market does a turn-around to push up prices again before the releases later today.
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  • #30,653
  • Feb 13, 2012 8:48pm Feb 13, 2012 8:48pm
Hello guys and girl!

Hello traderathome, how are you doing?
  • #30,654
  • Feb 13, 2012 10:28pm Feb 13, 2012 10:28pm
TAH,

Look like EU is forming San Sen, in a making in 15m TF..


Sonic
  • #30,655
  • Edited 10:53pm Feb 13, 2012 10:39pm | Edited 10:53pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
TAH,

Look like EU is forming San Sen, in a making in 15m TF..


Sonic
Hi Sonic..,

I'm seeing u r using "SanSen" or is it "Sanzen" word quite often and that too when addressing TAH.., is this some kind of a codeword . Just curious that is all.
  • #30,656
  • Feb 13, 2012 11:00pm Feb 13, 2012 11:00pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
TAH,

Look like EU is forming San Sen, in a making in 15m TF..


Sonic
What does that mean?
  • #30,657
  • Edited 11:43pm Feb 13, 2012 11:28pm | Edited 11:43pm
Hello all, I'm new in this thread and had following this sonicR system for at least 1 week.. Hehe, This system is rock...

Hope can contribute for this thread soon, coz i'm still newbie in forex trading and still in demo account..hope I will trade live soon..

@Master Sonic : What's san sen means? Is it double bottom?

This is my strategy for trading today, the chart seems make a double bottom.. Is my EP, SL and TP is right according to the SonicR system?

Can someone explain how to use Sonic VSA indicator? I'm still don't understand the use of this indicator..

Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Indonesia.. Nice to know that a lot of trader here is near my country.
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  • #30,658
  • Feb 13, 2012 11:47pm Feb 13, 2012 11:47pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
I have some request..from sonikers who stays in SG for a informal meet up..

I am considering..

Sonic
Yo, count me on, bro!
  • #30,659
  • Edited 4:34am Feb 14, 2012 12:07am | Edited 4:34am
Quoting sonicdeejay
TAH,

Look like EU is forming San Sen, in a making in 15m TF..


Sonic
Maybe.

But I wonder what Sokyu Honma would think of trying to apply to the M15 TF! My guess is that he dealt with "seasonal" fluctuations or other periods brought on by extreme weather and crop conditions, and even war. Such would bring about more significant "basing" for directional changes, and more followthru of new moves.

On the other hand, we are dealing with an impetuous, fast reacting (sometimes to nothing!) and quick to change (computer programed algorithimic orders that kick in after significant moves, etc) market, in which momentum is usually fleeting and PA behaviour is far more capricious, and driven by devious greed as much as by any real "conditions". Especially on the TF we trade.

The environment in which trading is conducted has changed considerably. For example, to my knowledge the US stock market has had three crashes. The first was in 1929. It was a real and substantial event. The other two were crashes that took place in the period 2008-20010, lasting only milliseconds. These were not substantial because the exhanges quickly realized that "someone" had exercised exceptional computer programming and speed to overwhelm the bids, hitting them so fast that they could not refresh in time to keep the "invaders" from nearly zeroing them out! All affected trades were reversed, so the events were not substantial. The fact of these two events reached the news and then was quickly no longer mentioned, lest the public begin to realize how the US stock market is truely no longer a "free market", but a marketplace rigged in favor of the "Thieves of Wall Street".

The significantly changed environments in which trading is conducted in modern times might invalidate a lot of the utility of past "methods", even if theoretically and psycologically it would seem that they should still be valid.

For me, it is the Sonic R. System!

(....and forex, not stocks!)

-tah
  • #30,660
  • Feb 14, 2012 12:13am Feb 14, 2012 12:13am
The sansen is a three day pattern. The first day consists of a large bull candle, followed by a small gapped bull candle and ends with a large bear candle.
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