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  • #5,161
  • Feb 11, 2012 11:46am Feb 11, 2012 11:46am
Quoting ohammond
Weekends are for sleeping When I get an extreme signal on the 1hr I know I have a few hours before I have to check for an actual full signal (usually between 4-7 hours) so can plan it. Last week I took +50 on each but the reason I went over to the Fibonnaci expansion this week was because of the good results last week. I have put the charts up with the actual trades I took but with the fibonnaci expansion instead and it wasn't a disaster at all. The pips add up to roughly +278 (that is accounting for spread and taking 5 off the target like...

wonderful olivia! i was jsut about to say, "whoops you missed what could have been a wonderful trade." then i hit next, and there's the pic. lol

thanks for sharing. im running a back test for H1 beginning June 2011. and ill post back how it flew.
  • #5,162
  • Feb 11, 2012 11:52am Feb 11, 2012 11:52am
Symphonie Performance

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  • #5,163
  • Feb 11, 2012 2:00pm Feb 11, 2012 2:00pm
Quoting ohammond
I think its worth reading, because it isn't a thread full of just chit chat, there are a lot of tips there and a lot of questions, most of which have been answered for you. Read post 1 thoroughly, download the indicators from there.

If you have never used the system before, I would suggest you use the extreme indicators that show the history of the repaint so you can see how the extreme works in realtime when backtesting. The ones attached to this post show past history of the extremes as dots so you can better tell exit strategies etc....


Very very thx for your full answer ,

Seems excellent i should start backtesting

you are so kind
  • #5,164
  • Feb 11, 2012 2:10pm Feb 11, 2012 2:10pm
Quoting Passerby
Thanks ohammond, then I should find another suspect for freezing issues. On Monday I will only open two chart, one is symphonie system and another one is for charting purpose in longer TF. I will turn off all alert, If it still freeze then I should reinstall once again.
Why did you edit out the pics for the exit strategy you are testing, I had to go out and then when I came back to study them, they were gone
  • #5,165
  • Feb 11, 2012 2:14pm Feb 11, 2012 2:14pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Symphonie Performance

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Excellent performance How long was that period over, 413 consecutive wins - amazing scalping record
  • #5,166
  • Feb 11, 2012 2:15pm Feb 11, 2012 2:15pm
Quoting yelena
wonderful olivia! i was jsut about to say, "whoops you missed what could have been a wonderful trade." then i hit next, and there's the pic. lol

thanks for sharing. im running a back test for H1 beginning June 2011. and ill post back how it flew.
I'd be very interested in that one, will you be using the 20,5 trendline settings?
  • #5,167
  • Feb 11, 2012 4:32pm Feb 11, 2012 4:32pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Symphonie Performance

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Zarrmansfx, extraordinary results.

Could you explain in detail its strategy?

As you said in December, you use only two indicators, still using only these two? How?

When do you place Buy Stop and Sell Stop?

Do you use Trailing Stop? or why do you close orders within 1 pip?

You don't use SL, then how much running a loss?

Thank you very much.
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  • #5,168
  • Feb 11, 2012 4:46pm Feb 11, 2012 4:46pm
Quoting skertel
hello

and very thx for your kindly sharing system

but where should I start it exactlly ?!


Do I need to read all the pages !?
As with all things in life, you start at the beginning. Yes, you do need to read all the pages because you have not got a great deal of experience trading.....and I can tell that from your question. If you skip pages, you will skip learning. If you skip learning and ask questions that have been answered several times already, you can expect an abrupt response, or perhaps no response at all.

People here have freely given their time and experience to the benefit of everyone.....and I do mean everyone. We can all learn from each other no matter how experienced we are or are not. The very least YOU can do is to show some patience and some respect, and read the thread in it's entirety, taking notes as you go. Yes, it may take a couple of weeks. So what? Do you think the market is going to vanish in two weeks?

When you learn a trade, no matter whether it's plumbing, architecture, carpentry, engineering or whatever, you start at the beginning and you learn your trade every step of the way, one step at a time. Can you imagine trusting your life to a surgeon who skipped through the 'manual' of 'how to be a surgeon?'

In this business of currency trading, we are up against some of the largest and most experienced groups of traders, banks, hedge fund managers etc in the world. They have been mentored and nurtured and trained by the best in the business. They are trading accounts so large that it would make your eyes water. What makes you (or anyone) think that it is possible to download an MT4 platform, throw a few dollars at it, download a system, skip the manual to last couple of pages and make lots of money??? I mean, come on.....really??????

You do know that 90% of the people who try this fail don't you? Do you want to join that group? No? Then do yourself (and us) a favour. Take a couple of weeks, read the thread and take notes as you go. If you do that, your chances of not joining the 90% of failed traders increase dramatically. And, your chances of getting a reply to your questions will also increase dramatically.

Patience is the key to this business......show us that you have some.

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,169
  • Feb 11, 2012 5:02pm Feb 11, 2012 5:02pm
Quoting SnailRoll

Since I am in Australia my main session time would be the Asia session, how would we adjust to that and how would the system do during off hours?
Seeing as ohammond has done such a great job of answering your questions, I won't go over them again. As far as trading hours go, I don't trade the Asian session at all. I used to, but 9 days out of 10, it's like watching grass grow....very boring with little or no gain.

Your hours will be a bit kinder than mine because you must be at least 3 hours behind me. Now I've been through this a few times, very recently in fact, but.....for the very last time:

For me Asian open is 1pm, and, as I have said, I don't trade Asian session. My trading day begins at 7pm, which is one hour before Frankfurt open and two hours before London open. I will take trades from 7pm on, until midnight or 1am. I never get to see USA session.....or very rarely.

Depending where you are in Aussie, that would equate to 4pm until 9m. If you traded 4pm until midnight, you'd get the first little bit of USA session as well.

There are some good moves during Asian session, but they are not frequent, and in my opinion, the session is a waste of time, 9 days out of 10.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,170
  • Feb 11, 2012 6:30pm Feb 11, 2012 6:30pm
Quoting realjumper
Seeing as ohammond has done such a great job of answering your questions, I won't go over them again. As far as trading hours go, I don't trade the Asian session at all. I used to, but 9 days out of 10, it's like watching grass grow....very boring with little or no gain.

Your hours will be a bit kinder than mine because you must be at least 3 hours behind me. Now I've been through this a few times, very recently in fact, but.....for the very last time:

For me Asian open is 1pm, and, as I have said, I don't trade Asian session. My trading day...
Thanks RJ for the detailed answer, yeah you are right I can just squeeze in an hour or two with NY since it opens at 11:30pm for me, guess I will trade when Frankfurt opens till 2 hour after NY so 5:30pm to 1:30am. Thanks again
  • #5,171
  • Feb 11, 2012 11:56pm Feb 11, 2012 11:56pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Symphonie Performance

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zarrmansfx,

Most impressive results using Symphonie System. Are you using Symphonie System strick rules or variation?
My Congratulations to you!



Eval.
  • #5,172
  • Feb 11, 2012 11:58pm Feb 11, 2012 11:58pm
Quoting gj6n68
Hello All,

I've been reading through the posts and realise that there have been number of updates to the indicators over the days...

Just wanted to know if the files in the first post are the ones which are up to date or should I go through all the posts and find the updated files within the posts ??

Sorry if I am asking something which annoys someone, but I would rather use my time reading the posts if I know where I should look for indicators.

Kind regards and keep it up...

gj6n68,

Post #1 has my most current indikators and all my current settings.

Evaluator
  • #5,173
  • Feb 12, 2012 12:04am Feb 12, 2012 12:04am
Quoting SnailRoll
Hey think some question got buried before so I thought I would ask again.

comparing exit strategy #2 and #4 which is more newbie friendly? If I am going for the signal to signal, what should I look out for to close when things aren't right? Do I watch for opposite extreme and close after that bar closes? Or do I simply wait for the next signal? What would be a worst case scenario when using signal to signal.

In terms of repaint, if I get a signal with all 4 indicator aligning and right after I made my entry extreme repaints to opposite colour,...

SnailRoll,

Exit Strategy #1 is best for new people because it is easiest to follow. I will make one caveat.....once you get an extreme spike wait for 3 to 4 bars to see it the Extereme holds. If no repaint then exit at close of 4th bar/beginning of 5th. (see attached chart for example)

Evaluator.
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  • #5,174
  • Edited 12:24am Feb 12, 2012 12:10am | Edited 12:24am
Quoting k4u
Hi Evaluator,
If we are in a trade where all conditions are meet and then if indicator repaints in this condition we have to wait for our stop loss to be hit or we have to close our trades as soon as the indicator repaints?Please do not tell me to go through the first page since I have read it more than 10 times still cannot get it. It would be very kind of you if you could help me to understand. Wish you very good luck.

k4u,

First, if you make order and the extreme repaints then you should take the repaint and make a repaint play as described in the repaint play section of post #1.(i.e. exit trade immediately) All 4 indikators will not repaint. The only one prone to repaints is extreme indikator. Also, if you get a extreme spike before 30 pips of progress then per exception rule you exit immediately to protect your account.

There is a tips section in post#1 that will provide you with different conditions and situation that will prove educational as they cover your question.

Evaluator.
  • #5,175
  • Feb 12, 2012 12:11am Feb 12, 2012 12:11am
Quoting ohammond
I'm not Evaluator, but I am going to suggest you read it again then, because there are several exit strategies in there, but if you get a full signal in the opposite direction, common sense should tell you to close the trade, we are talking of 4 indicators here, not just one and they don't all "repaint" at the same time. It would also be a good idea to load the indicators on your charts and play around on demo with it, watching how it works to get a proper feel for it.

ohammond,

YOU ARE CORRECT! Great reply post!

Eval.
  • #5,176
  • Feb 12, 2012 12:15am Feb 12, 2012 12:15am
Quoting SnailRoll
Thanks for answering my questions. Here is another one if you don't mind, when trading 15 mins are trades monitored constantly until closed or just checked every few bars? I am having problem having a perception of timeframe, I understand when trading m5 you would be trading live but what about m15 or longer. And what's the averaged time between open and close of a trade with m5 and m15?

SnailRoll,

How you choose to trade is up to you. Personally, I watch my trades until there is a major move and I feel comfortable in letting my trade run. (more than 100 pips) Then I would just keep an eye on it periodically.

15 min timeframe I find myself watch constantly just as much as 5 min. If you trade 1 hour then you are probably more likley not to have to watch as closely because the timeframe is so large that trades will normally take much longer. But there is a trade off because you need larger stoplosses for larger timeframes. But watching your trades is your decision on how active you are involved in your trades.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #5,177
  • Feb 12, 2012 12:16am Feb 12, 2012 12:16am
Quoting Seabreeze
Thought I would answer this one for Eval...

The exit stratergies are very clear on page one..If you are new to this type of trading then I would suggest The most conservative exit that being as follows..

Exit Strategy One. (most conservative)

[font=Arial]When the Cycle indicator shows an extreme spike (spike with colour) exit the trade at the close of that candlestick. This strategy makes sure that you get all the profit from a trade as the extreme points are reached in a movement. The downside to this strategy is you are exiting an...
Seabreeze,

Great post! Two Thumbs up!

Eval.
  • #5,178
  • Feb 12, 2012 6:46am Feb 12, 2012 6:46am
Quoting Evaluator
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--------Special Note---------
Due to the volume of request I make this special note to all. Do not ask me to provide you signals. I am not your private signal service. Symphonie Trader System provides those signals to you and I will not! Also, regardless how attractive you make it....I will NOT manage anyones account!!!! I have my own accounts to manage and that is plenty for me. I do not need the Stress and WILL NOT DO IT so before you send me a nice note with attractive terms....DON'T....

excellent note,

I saw your thread in forums and thanks god for the click on your thread .


it is good to understand your philosophies of tradings .


Wish luck

Shahrooz
  • #5,179
  • Feb 12, 2012 11:52am Feb 12, 2012 11:52am
Quoting geo123
Here you go !
Hello Geo 123,

I have traded RENKO charts for a while. Would be great if you could post your indicators for the Renko template you posted here as well. Otherwise, I will have to read through 4500 posts! . Thanks a lot from Switzerland!
  • #5,180
  • Edited 4:19pm Feb 12, 2012 11:54am | Edited 4:19pm
This system is still working quite well for me. I'm going to try it out on M1 for for 2 weeks for around 2-3 hours a day. I hope it goes well!

Edit: Never mind. I'll try that another time. I'm going back to testing the system on M5.
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