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  • #30,121
  • Jan 31, 2012 1:29pm Jan 31, 2012 1:29pm
hello friends

my first post on FF. i look on the systems and choose Sonic system to focus in.

i download and read all from the 1st post. i like sonic Intro
but really cant understand. i try alot.

i read here and there on the thread. look at the charts.
and still cant understand.

i understand that u trade the eurusd 15 m tf.

i see differnt lines on the template i download and the charts on the thread.
so please make it easier for me please.
wich pair is the best. wich tf?

and how to decide long/short...

thanl you
  • #30,122
  • Jan 31, 2012 1:35pm Jan 31, 2012 1:35pm
Dyekid217, in your last several posted pics you allude to the inference of decreasing/low or increasing/high volume on upmoves. In the first pic, you state the test of the high on the decreasing volume shown indicates weakness. In the second pic, you state the upmove on the decreasing volume shown indicates strength. In the third pic, you state the upmove on the increasing volume shown indicates strength (but that you didn't trust it). And then again, in the fourth pic, you state the test of the high on the decreasing volume shown indicates weakness.

The inferences for the second and third cases are contradictory. So, I am confused about your method of reading "volume".
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  • #30,123
  • Jan 31, 2012 1:37pm Jan 31, 2012 1:37pm
well after reading master the markets from tom williams I was tought to understand that there are multiple explanations for low volume correct?

eg. low volume testing, no selling pressure/no buying pressure. Basically I just look and see what the smart money is doing once they hit S&R.

Following the vsa thread as well low volume can be seen in many instances.. but it's how you look at the background and what price is doing that actually makes a difference in trading volume.

They might be contradicting but so far it's working for me.. and that's all that matters right.

just sharing my insight
  • #30,124
  • Edited 2:36pm Jan 31, 2012 1:40pm | Edited 2:36pm
Yes and we did...

Plan your trade and trade your plan. entry, tpīs and exit etc.

Have fun Sonickers...

Regards,
H.

edit. s+d trading sorry...
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #30,125
  • Edited 2:49pm Jan 31, 2012 1:54pm | Edited 2:49pm
Quoting Dyekid217
well after reading master the markets from tom williams I was tought to understand that there are multiple explanations for low volume correct?

eg. low volume testing, no selling pressure/no buying pressure. Basically I just look and see what the smart money is doing once they hit S&R.

Following the vsa thread as well low volume can be seen in many instances.. but it's how you look at the background and what price is doing that actually makes a difference in trading volume.

They might be contradicting but so far it's working for me.. and that's...
Well, yes, from the view of your own personal trading.

However, from the view of the Sonic R. System thread, these types of inferences regarding volume are not part of the system. In fact, we refer to "stopping volume" which means that high volume on a test of highs can mean weakness, an actual massive closing of longs/opening of shorts as the price is worked up to the highs. And high volume on a test of lows can mean strength, an actual massive closing of shorts/opening of longs as the price is worked down to the lows. Both of these usages of "stopping volume" is contradictory to your volume inferences.

The main purpose of the thread is to demonstrate the Sonic R. System in action. It is the "manual", if you will, of the Sonic R. System. And the goal of all Sonikers should be to keep that focus, so that for them and for all future traders attempting to learn the system, the process will be less encumbered.

It is understandable that some traders use "other" techniques also, maybe at least for awhile, because we are not all robots cut from the same sheet metal when we first come to this thread. However, such "other" techniques do not need to be posted. Doing it just complicates for everyone the process of learning the Sonic R. System.

I personally have done the same. Guilty as charged. But time and experience have enlightened me. And now my hope going forward is that this thread will tend towards only pure, classic Sonic R., which will be a benefit to all, and that all will support this.

And, perhaps this appeal just needs to be restated from time to time.

Edit: BTW, I appreciate your presence here on the Sonic R. System thread. And I look forward to you sharing your insights in commentary.

Regards,
-tah
  • #30,126
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:30pm Jan 31, 2012 2:30pm
ahh I get ya TAH. My system does emphasize on volume more than the original sonicr system.

I will try and post some original analysis from now on. Regardless.. great thread you guys have here I'm sure any newbie will be able to grasp the concept with all the examples you've posted.

Happy pippin!
  • #30,127
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:57pm Jan 31, 2012 2:57pm
Quoting hansma
Yes and we did...

Plan your trade and trade your plan. entry, tpīs and exit etc.

Have fun Sonickers...

Regards,
H.

edit. s+d trading sorry...
It is nice when Sonic R. and "s+d" agree.
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  • #30,128
  • Jan 31, 2012 3:30pm Jan 31, 2012 3:30pm
Quoting traderathome
It is nice when Sonic R. and "s+d" agree.
Congrats Tah.

You solved the quizz

See you 2morrow sonickers.

Regards,
H
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #30,129
  • Jan 31, 2012 3:39pm Jan 31, 2012 3:39pm
It my first day on Sonic system, but I must say am really enjoying it.
Just wanna say a big thank you to sonicdeejay and Basber. God bless you both. Thanks
The End Justifies The Means
  • #30,130
  • Jan 31, 2012 4:15pm Jan 31, 2012 4:15pm
Quoting fadi111
hello friends

my first post on FF. i look on the systems and choose Sonic system to focus in.

i download and read all from the 1st post. i like sonic Intro
but really cant understand. i try alot.

i read here and there on the thread. look at the charts.
and still cant understand.

i understand that u trade the eurusd 15 m tf.

i see differnt lines on the template i download and the charts on the thread.
so please make it easier for me please.
wich pair is the best. wich tf?

and how to decide long/short...

thanl you
Welcome to the Sonic R. System thread. First off, read all of Post #1, including the linked material. Then review the following:


Brief Manual and TAH indicators/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=1368

Brief Manual Update:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post4682936

New TAH indicators/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...55#post4692255

Upgrade of TAH indicators/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post4785975

If you have questions on the TAH indictors/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...61#post5188661

Back To Basics, a simplified review of the Sonic R. System:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post5240536

Update to Brief Manual:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...58#post5325858


Final Suggestion:
Read, read and read more. The Sonic R. System is as simple as it comes. It should not need to be "spoon fed" to anyone. Continue by reading the first 25-50 of Sonicdeejay's posts. Then leap ahead and read the last month of all posts. By then, considering all that you have read (and hopefully reflected on), you should have a very good idea of the Sonic R. System.


Regards,
-tah
  • #30,131
  • Jan 31, 2012 4:39pm Jan 31, 2012 4:39pm
Quoting hansma
Congrats Tah.

You solved the quizz

See you 2morrow sonickers.

Regards,
H
Ha! I didn't know I was being tested, but it is nice to know I passed!
  • #30,132
  • Jan 31, 2012 4:42pm Jan 31, 2012 4:42pm
i hate being in New York.. there's absolutely no liquidity during the day and I'm dead tired by the time i'm done trading london.
  • #30,133
  • Jan 31, 2012 5:40pm Jan 31, 2012 5:40pm
Quoting Dyekid217
i hate being in New York.. there's absolutely no liquidity during the day and I'm dead tired by the time i'm done trading london.
Dyekid217, I am in the same time zone as you are, but in Florida. I have the same gripe. Sometimes I want to watch the early asian session, but then I make the mistake of staying up right on to the LO. And soon afterwards I am exhausted. That would be right about the time I should have awoken, after going to sleep much early in the evening! All in all, it seems best to go to bed early in the evening, awake after 3am, and grunt it from there. Though sometimes a nap for several hours before the US open can be managed. If not working another job, then one only has to endure until noon.
  • #30,134
  • Jan 31, 2012 5:41pm Jan 31, 2012 5:41pm
AU:

As an "asian pair" this might see some action here in the early asian session. My plan is shown in the pic.
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  • #30,135
  • Jan 31, 2012 5:55pm Jan 31, 2012 5:55pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

As an "asian pair" this might see some action here in the early asian session. My plan is shown in the pic.
AU:

Per previous post, entered SonicR short (EP= 1.0611).

Some will clammer "Hey! It is not the London session yet! What gives?" We are in strange times. The asian session has been yielding some nice looking setups that actually do something! In this case, maybe PA will move down nicely, or as is so traditional for the asian session, maybe it will stall, reverse and not do much until the London session. We don't know. I don't know. But I decided to risk it, just in case. In all other respects, this is a valid classic SonicR short setup trade.
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  • #30,136
  • Jan 31, 2012 6:02pm Jan 31, 2012 6:02pm
yup audusd looks like a good candidate on this asian session
  • #30,137
  • Edited 6:47pm Jan 31, 2012 6:14pm | Edited 6:47pm
GU:

Yesterday this was more resistant to falling than was EU. Today might be it's turn. In case it starts to drop early, my plan is shown in the pic. I am not sure yet which TP to favor should this come to pass, probably the middle one.
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  • #30,138
  • Jan 31, 2012 8:08pm Jan 31, 2012 8:08pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

Per previous post, entered SonicR short (EP= 1.0611).

Some will clammer "Hey! It is not the London session yet! What gives?" We are in strange times. The asian session has been yielding some nice looking setups that actually do something! In this case, maybe PA will move down nicely, or as is so traditional for the asian session, maybe it will stall, reverse and not do much until the London session. We don't know. I don't know. But I decided to risk it, just in case. In all other respects, this is a valid classic SonicR short...
AU,

Hi Tah, I am Long for AU. It seem to be good set up for AU now.
  • #30,139
  • Jan 31, 2012 9:09pm Jan 31, 2012 9:09pm
USDCHF long

TP: 92853

will see how this plays out
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  • #30,140
  • Jan 31, 2012 10:16pm Jan 31, 2012 10:16pm
Quoting goodchong
AU,

Hi Tah, I am Long for AU. It seem to be good set up for AU now.
AU:

We're both wrong. The early asian session went back to normal; good looking setups that do nothing! And maybe nothing will happen across the entire market today until those high impact releases hit.
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