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  • #3,161
  • Jan 27, 2012 10:01am Jan 27, 2012 10:01am
Quoting maxwell-eqtn
Great system man. I am still evaluating it. So far so good.

I will do more research on it next week
Just go back in time on the charts and use the F12 button to go bar by bar...

Or use the tradesimulator.

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,162
  • Jan 27, 2012 5:07pm Jan 27, 2012 5:07pm
First week trading Invictus, not so succesfull

10 losers of 15 pips = -150
6 winners of 10 pips = +60
7 winners but kicked out by Trailingstop ranging from 0.1 untill 4.4 =+17.1

total = -72.9 pips (account down more then 20%)

This was caused by trail and error,next week i try to get back in the green or at least have a green week.
I have written down a lot of tips and I have to learn to be patient and carefull....this week i just took almost all the trades but got burned next week must be different if i want to be succesfull in trading Invictus.
With guidance and assistance from Udine im sure it will be a succesfull week next week

For now i wish everybody a nice weekend PARTY HARD DUDES !!

Richard
  • #3,163
  • Jan 27, 2012 9:38pm Jan 27, 2012 9:38pm
I am having a hard time getting the same results you do.
The rules are quite simple so I can't find my mistake.

-Just take 1 trade per direction per session.
Frankfurt 8am - 5 pm GMT + 1 Wintertime
London 8am - 5 pm GMT
New York 2 pm - 11 pm

- Just trade when the ATR and the Rm of the corresponding direction is green

- Long Fifo green Short Fifo red

- Take the trade when the Hi/Low of the Candle with the arrow is broken. If possible set a pending order under the Hi/Low.

- Delete the pending order when Fifo switches colors

- don't trade when there are red news comming out.

- tp 10 pips
- sl 15 pips
- trailing 5 pips in profit



How do you trade 3 different sessions when Frankfurt and London is almost the same?
  • #3,164
  • Jan 27, 2012 11:07pm Jan 27, 2012 11:07pm
Quoting hollandpippin
First week trading Invictus, not so succesfull

10 losers of 15 pips = -150
6 winners of 10 pips = +60
7 winners but kicked out by Trailingstop ranging from 0.1 untill 4.4 =+17.1

total = -72.9 pips (account down more then 20%)

This was caused by trail and error,next week i try to get back in the green or at least have a green week.
I have written down a lot of tips and I have to learn to be patient and carefull....this week i just took almost all the trades but got burned next week must be different if i want to be succesfull in trading Invictus.
With...
Hi Richard,

go look at your charts and analyze them one by one, check your notes and look at the entry and exit screenprints (if you made them). This will help tremendously in improving and learning.

Green pips and a have a good one.

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,165
  • Jan 27, 2012 11:10pm Jan 27, 2012 11:10pm
Quoting Kilian19
I am having a hard time getting the same results you do.
The rules are quite simple so I can't find my mistake.

-Just take 1 trade per direction per session.
Frankfurt 8am - 5 pm GMT + 1 Wintertime
London 8am - 5 pm GMT
New York 2 pm - 11 pm

- Just trade when the ATR and the Rm of the corresponding direction is green

- Long Fifo green Short Fifo red

- Take the trade when the Hi/Low of the Candle with the arrow is broken. If possible set a pending order under the Hi/Low.

- Delete the pending order when Fifo switches colors

- don't...

Hi Kilian,

I simply trade from frankfurt open until london close.

That is the only "session" I trade.

Your rules are fine. Just try them out next week and see how it goes.

Green pips and a good weekend

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,166
  • Jan 28, 2012 5:34am Jan 28, 2012 5:34am
Quoting Udine
Hi Kilian,

I simply trade from frankfurt open until london close.
Udine
Thanks. Can someone pls verify my entries. I'm using an EA and scripts to backtest this strategy manually since I can't be at the computer during that time of the day.

Here are the results for the 20th of January

I'm really trying to get into this system since it seems to be profitable. I already tried my own rules (like not trading if the signal candle was broken in the opposite direction, but it didn't help a lot). First off all I want to understand the main concept before I want to change something.

Is there any reason we have the semafor on our chart?

Thanks a lot for your patients.
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  • #3,167
  • Jan 29, 2012 5:06am Jan 29, 2012 5:06am
Quoting Kilian19
Thanks. Can someone pls verify my entries. I'm using an EA and scripts to backtest this strategy manually since I can't be at the computer during that time of the day.

Here are the results for the 20th of January

I'm really trying to get into this system since it seems to be profitable. I already tried my own rules (like not trading if the signal candle was broken in the opposite direction, but it didn't help a lot). First off all I want to understand the main concept before I want to change something.

Is there any reason we have the semafor...
Hi Kilian,

your entries are correct, but you have to choose your battles, and not enter on every signal.

For example when the signal comes on the bar of of a Market open then it is wise not to enter, as those entries, can turn in a second.

Go back on the chart mark every signal and see for yourself which one are the best signals


Green pips

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,168
  • Jan 29, 2012 9:15am Jan 29, 2012 9:15am
Quoting Kilian19
I am having a hard time getting the same results you do.
The rules are quite simple so I can't find my mistake.

-Just take 1 trade per direction per session.
Frankfurt 8am - 5 pm GMT + 1 Wintertime
London 8am - 5 pm GMT
New York 2 pm - 11 pm

- Just trade when the ATR and the Rm of the corresponding direction is green

- Long Fifo green Short Fifo red

- Take the trade when the Hi/Low of the Candle with the arrow is broken. If possible set a pending order under the Hi/Low.

- Delete the pending order when Fifo switches colors

-...
Killian,

Congratulations. You did a very good overview of the rules, I think isn't correct the first rule, ie, Just take 1 trade per direction per session, I trade all the order that follow the rules, and just need one more, don't trade when today range greater than ADR.

Only my 2 cents.

Green pips!
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  • #3,169
  • Jan 29, 2012 11:15am Jan 29, 2012 11:15am
Quoting Kilian19
Thanks. Can someone pls verify my entries. I'm using an EA and scripts to backtest this strategy manually since I can't be at the computer during that time of the day.

Here are the results for the 20th of January

I'm really trying to get into this system since it seems to be profitable. I already tried my own rules (like not trading if the signal candle was broken in the opposite direction, but it didn't help a lot). First off all I want to understand the main concept before I want to change something.

Is there any reason we have the semafor...
I would like to add that there are other things to consider. First, this, and any good system, is based on HH/HL or LL/LH. The indicator simply helps Udine spot the trade setups and then decide which are good. If you take every signal, you are going to lose money. Also, the indy works differently on different brokers, even if they are in the same time zone as Udine's (Alpari UK), so you might get signals he doesn't or miss one he gets. Also he tested this system on demo for many months to prove he was profitable before going live.

Look at your first trade: HH, LL, HH, LL. Shows the market is getting more active but without direction. Very risky trade. Second trade: series of HLs. Not the best indication for a short AND if you already had a short trade in the ENTIRE session from UK open to London close, don't take another short trade in that pair, look for long only. And if your first trade was in profit, even 1 or 2 pips, DON'T take another trade in that pair, just be happy. Also, break even is a win because you didn't lose money.
  • #3,170
  • Jan 29, 2012 3:50pm Jan 29, 2012 3:50pm
Thanks, you for strategy.

God bless you !



Quoting udine
i got more than my daily dose again.

+5 % to the account.

Green pips

udine
  • #3,171
  • Jan 29, 2012 4:30pm Jan 29, 2012 4:30pm
udine what does your latest setup look like
  • #3,172
  • Jan 29, 2012 4:31pm Jan 29, 2012 4:31pm
sorry I meant to ask on a 15 min chart.
  • #3,173
  • Jan 29, 2012 4:43pm Jan 29, 2012 4:43pm
Quoting hharrington
sorry I meant to ask on a 15 min chart.
he created a template

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...23#post5321123

@Udine you should put a link to your template post at your first post
  • #3,174
  • Jan 29, 2012 10:49pm Jan 29, 2012 10:49pm
Quoting hharrington
sorry I meant to ask on a 15 min chart.

Kilian is correct, the template

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,175
  • Jan 29, 2012 10:52pm Jan 29, 2012 10:52pm
Quoting Kilian19
he created a template

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...23#post5321123

@Udine you should put a link to your template post at your first post

Kilian19, you are correct.

Done.

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,176
  • Jan 30, 2012 2:12am Jan 30, 2012 2:12am
Good morning,

we might have a strange day for trading with the Euro summit in Brussels, so be carefull in your trading today.

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,177
  • Jan 30, 2012 2:50am Jan 30, 2012 2:50am
Udine,
Is there a short setup now on the previous bar? 9:30 CET.

Bert
  • #3,178
  • Jan 30, 2012 3:06am Jan 30, 2012 3:06am
Quoting finch
Udine,
Is there a short setup now on the previous bar? 9:30 CET.

Bert

What pair? We might have different brokers so am not sure what pair you are talking about

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,179
  • Jan 30, 2012 3:11am Jan 30, 2012 3:11am
I have a short signal on the 08:45 GMT time bar. Lets see how it works out.

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #3,180
  • Jan 30, 2012 3:13am Jan 30, 2012 3:13am
Quoting Udine
I have a short signal on the 08:45 GMT time bar. Lets see how it works out.

Udine
Me too...and just got my first "stressfree" +10 pips...

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