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  • #589,581
  • Jan 29, 2012 12:52pm Jan 29, 2012 12:52pm
Quoting free4440273
oh def. bullish on gold -- 1800 next i think.
Since most ppl are bullish now I smell a retrace, but it might not matter since CB's will kill big market players out to get retailers. There is a race to the bottom of devaluation and a race to the top of who owns most gold wins.
  • #589,582
  • Jan 29, 2012 12:58pm Jan 29, 2012 12:58pm
Quoting sidhujag
Since most ppl are bullish now I smell a retrace, but it might not matter since CB's will kill big market players out to get retailers. There is a race to the bottom of devaluation and a race to the top of who owns most gold wins.
...ben has basically said screw the usd too; so gold is in a bull channel imo; small retrace poss yes.
  • #589,583
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:02pm Jan 29, 2012 1:02pm
Quoting chazzle
The Pope?
  • #589,584
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:05pm Jan 29, 2012 1:05pm
Bottom line is people been buying this from 2600. There were clear sign of sentiment shift. We have no way of knowing if its a trend reversal or just a pull back. I'm just planning on riding this till it tells me that I'm an idiot. This way, you're only wrong once.
  • #589,585
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:07pm Jan 29, 2012 1:07pm
Quoting free4440273
...ben has basically said screw the usd too; so gold is in a bull channel imo; small retrace poss yes.
usd has some major divergence going on, and I'm very bullish both gold and usd, so usd has no factor into this equation, during major risk aversion in europe we will have strong gold and usd, yes its possible. new york will also be bullish, or ranging while usd rises from what I believe.
  • #589,586
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:08pm Jan 29, 2012 1:08pm
Quoting sidhujag
So how much premium did you pocket for those options? At 2000 if you have to buy it back wouldn't you be in the hole pretty big?
I sold them for 400-500 bucks. Friday's closing price was 210 bucks. I have also sold puts. That covers some of the pain should this bastard move above 2000 towards 2500.
  • #589,587
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:17pm Jan 29, 2012 1:17pm
Quoting One billion
I sold them for 400-500 bucks. Friday's closing price was 210 bucks. I have also sold puts. That covers some of the pain should this bastard move above 2000 towards 2500.
That's pretty cool, yea I think 1550 is the low for now. What platform do you use for options? I've always wanted to start my straddle options system which showed some promise but never got around to it!
  • #589,588
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:22pm Jan 29, 2012 1:22pm
This is my gold chart :

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1327872081

We are in an incertainty market, which is good for gold + TA are bullish on gold too.
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  • #589,589
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:25pm Jan 29, 2012 1:25pm
Quoting sidhujag
That's pretty cool, yea I think 1550 is the low for now. What platform do you use for options? I've always wanted to start my straddle options system which showed some promise but never got around to it!
I have been trading with ADMIS for a long time. They are not as fancy as some others but they are backed by ADM and that's what counts these days. Moved away from Interactive Brokers simply because many of the trades I make go straight to the pit but IB is electronic only. I honestly believe that selling deep out-of-the-money options is the easiest game in town if you're good at risk management.
  • #589,590
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:27pm Jan 29, 2012 1:27pm
I can understand a lot of arguments and I myself as greek am embarassed and angry with my country but claiming greek economy is "selling seashells for tourists etc" comes a long way even as a way of making a point (a point that I don't object to)

Don't intend to start a long argument, just making a point that we should be more accurate and also sensitive since this is an international forum[/quote]

I know that many on this thread speak English as their second language and I should be more understanding to that. It is quite obvious that Greece has a huge economy base and are every bit as sophisticated as any of the G20 countries.

When I was using absurdity to make a point, you should have been laughing your ass off instead of getting offended.

You guys need to lighten up.
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  • #589,591
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:36pm Jan 29, 2012 1:36pm
Quoting Taigen
I can understand a lot of arguments and I myself as greek am embarassed and angry with my country but claiming greek economy is "selling seashells for tourists etc" comes a long way even as a way of making a point (a point that I don't object to)

Don't intend to start a long argument, just making a point that we should be more accurate and also sensitive since this is an international forum
I know that many on this thread speak English as their second language and I should be more understanding to that. It is quite obvious that Greece has a huge economy base and are every bit as sophisticated as any of the G20 countries.

When I was using absurdity to make a point, you should have been laughing your ass off instead of getting offended.

You guys need to lighten up.[/quote]

No worries. I always Lmao.
  • #589,592
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:37pm Jan 29, 2012 1:37pm
Quoting phxmike
Yes you are totaly wrong. I am not from Greece andi have no intention to defend them. But guys honestly sometimesi just don't understand of what you are talking about when you say the euro will collapse. I don't know from where you are but americans or australians just see this as a currency (which is good when you just trade) but you don't understand europe at all (which is bad if you say things like euro will fallapart and why eu needs the greeks...pff).

So i dont know. Perhaps study some history...?
Look, you guys need to lighten up. There is nothing I can say or you can say that would influence anything--I mean ANYTHING. I just responded to what the Chancellor of Germany said regarding Greece as it pertains to the Euro. I may not know anything but Merkel probably has better insight than the both of us.

Ultimately, this is what I know: before the US dollar collapses, the Euro will go first for no other reason than we have a the largest GDP. (Don't go about the collective GDP of Europe. That can fall apart anytime.) The collapse won't happen for quite awhile.
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  • #589,593
  • Jan 29, 2012 1:55pm Jan 29, 2012 1:55pm
Hi there,

anybody knows what the USD Index chart is called on alpari MT4?

thanks for help!
  • #589,594
  • Jan 29, 2012 2:12pm Jan 29, 2012 2:12pm
Quoting pepsi
Hi there,

anybody knows what the USD Index chart is called on alpari MT4?

thanks for help!
download the mt4 of http://www.forexltd.co.uk/
it's called usdx
  • #589,595
  • Jan 29, 2012 2:26pm Jan 29, 2012 2:26pm
Quoting Ultimate6
download the mt4 of http://www.forexltd.co.uk/
it's called usdx
I did, but I can't find "USDX" wether under "Forex" nor "Indexes" nor "CFD" Charts!?
  • #589,596
  • Jan 29, 2012 2:39pm Jan 29, 2012 2:39pm
Nothing's gonna collapse. Not the usd, nor the euro. The Ponzi scheme must go on. Just trade what the damn chart is telling you NOW and stop speculating out of your asses.

The alternative is to go jump off a bridge.
  • #589,597
  • Jan 29, 2012 2:39pm Jan 29, 2012 2:39pm
Quoting Taigen
Look, you guys need to lighten up. There is nothing I can say or you can say that would influence anything--I mean ANYTHING. I just responded to what the Chancellor of Germany said regarding Greece as it pertains to the Euro. I may not know anything but Merkel probably has better insight than the both of us.

Ultimately, this is what I know: before the US dollar collapses, the Euro will go first for no other reason than we have a the largest GDP. (Don't go about the collective GDP of Europe. That can fall apart anytime.) The collapse won't...
Then here is my personal opinion about the greek situation:

1. Sell the island of Creta to the germans. They will happily pay for your national debt and problem solved once and for all! Oh .. you mean you dont want them to laugh and raise the german flag again there? then...

2. Shut up and take the money the EU is willing to give as long as it is willing to give!!!

I think this is as simple as it is. Sorry.. no offense just facts.
'You must be the change you wish to see in the world' . Gandhi
  • #589,598
  • Jan 29, 2012 2:41pm Jan 29, 2012 2:41pm
Quoting pkimnyc
Bottom line is people been buying this from 2600. There were clear sign of sentiment shift. We have no way of knowing if its a trend reversal or just a pull back. I'm just planning on riding this till it tells me that I'm an idiot. This way, you're only wrong once.
agreed trading is not about forecasting the future but reaction!
I'm not a "Businessman" I'm a "Business-man"!! Jay-Z
  • #589,599
  • Jan 29, 2012 3:04pm Jan 29, 2012 3:04pm
I can't figure our why should Germans or any other nation give any more loans to Greece. It is obvious that they do not plan to make any progress but just take as much as they can before everything falls appart.
  • #589,600
  • Jan 29, 2012 3:15pm Jan 29, 2012 3:15pm
Quoting attila
Nothing's gonna collapse. Not the usd, nor the euro. The Ponzi scheme must go on. Just trade what the damn chart is telling you NOW and stop speculating out of your asses.

The alternative is to go jump off a bridge.
Perhaps you're right. Future speculations have little to do with making coin for the day in forex.

You are quite right. Thank you for showing the error of my ways!

Forex forever!!!
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