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  • #586,381
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:39am Jan 20, 2012 5:39am
No immediate reaction to that news which would suggest not enough info. Locked in +30 pip profit in case it does turn
  • #586,382
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:41am Jan 20, 2012 5:41am
Quoting mohan76
market need haircut information if i am not wrong as bailout fund depend on haircut

edit : market not moving or all 2 my broker gone ?
Can't find that story from Bloomberg...
  • #586,383
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:41am Jan 20, 2012 5:41am
Quoting MaynoothBlue
No immediate reaction to that news which would suggest not enough info. Locked in +30 pip profit in case it does turn
No reaction could mean this current rally had already priced in today's agreement
  • #586,384
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:42am Jan 20, 2012 5:42am
Quoting MaxDoom
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...31#post5312631
Thanks for the info...
  • #586,385
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:42am Jan 20, 2012 5:42am
Quoting Xdir
From the Greeks point of view, they have nothing to lose its bad either way, from the creditors side, their debts are insured so Greece has to pay 100% or they get 100% from insurers. The losers are those paying the taxes that funds into ESEF (i.e EU tax payers)
Debts are insured?..Do you really think german and french banks that have lend cash would fight so hard with greeks atm to get money back if they could just cover it from ECB, governments or insurers?
We're not talking about credit swaps and CDO's..

Thurth is that everyone noticed that king is naked and whole eu procject and socialism that they want to implement is failing.

Greece has got same situation like UK, ppl are better off siting in home and getting benefits than work and pay taxes.
  • #586,386
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:48am Jan 20, 2012 5:48am
Quoting zathan
Debts are insured?..Do you really think german and french banks that have lend cash would fight so hard with greeks atm to get money back if they could just cover it from ECB, governments or insurers?
We're not talking about credit swaps and CDO's..

Thurth is that everyone noticed that king is naked and whole eu procject and socialism that they want to implement is failing.

Greece has got same situation like UK, ppl are better off siting in home and getting benefits than work and pay taxes.
Debts are insured though CDS, unfortunately the value of the CDS far exceeds Greece's actual debt because non-actors also bet on Greece defaulting - if CDS are activated it will nuke the financial markets.
  • #586,387
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:51am Jan 20, 2012 5:51am
Quoting johncen
lol I start trading real money since last May..
I wish I have the experience~~make me more like a pro...
its just matter of time...+ some talent I believe
You at it full time?

You happy with liverpool this season, my god that carroll lad is a donkey
  • #586,388
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:52am Jan 20, 2012 5:52am
Quoting MaxDoom
how far up?

Assuming that this has just completed the bottom of a wave 4 of 5 on the hourly then I have targets scattered from 1.3011 to 1.3164 with no clear winner.

This normally means a short 5th wave so I will target the 1.3000 to 1.3045 zone if this continues to move up.
Also Thanks
Looks Good, Makes Sense & todays Low hit 61.8 retrace from yesterday. And now pushing back up to 50.0 fib level.
Happy Hunting
  • #586,389
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:52am Jan 20, 2012 5:52am
Quoting EdvinLTU
maybe mini double botom on 5min chart?
I could not trade on 5min charts, 1 hour minimum for me, each to their own though
  • #586,390
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:53am Jan 20, 2012 5:53am
Quoting Xdir
Debts are insured though CDS, unfortunately the value of the CDS far exceeds Greece's actual debt because non-actors also bet on Greece defaulting - if CDS are activated it will nuke the financial markets.

Amen brother.....another Lehman moment...only this time, huge crash...
  • #586,391
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:54am Jan 20, 2012 5:54am
Quoting Xdir
Debts are insured though CDS, unfortunately the value of the CDS far exceeds Greece's actual debt because non-actors also bet on Greece defaulting - if CDS are activated it will nuke the financial markets.

Try to imagine situation where over 150bln euro vanishing from financial markets.
  • #586,392
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:57am Jan 20, 2012 5:57am
Quoting zathan
Try to imagine situation where over 150bln euro vanishing from financial markets.
most likely cds insure will file chapter 11 and CDS holder might get 10c per $
Mohan
  • #586,393
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:58am Jan 20, 2012 5:58am
I can see many bullish guys around here .
What i see personaly is a bear day and i think it is not only a pull back unless greece stuff surprised us.
Long term trend is still down.
My target is 12863 fot the day . If it breaks then 128 could be reached.
just my 2 cents
  • #586,394
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:04am Jan 20, 2012 6:04am
Quoting spieler
I can see many bullish guys around here .
What i see personaly is a bear day and i think it is not only a pull back unless greece stuff surprised us.
Long term trend is still down.
My target is 12863 fot the day . If it breaks then 128 could be reached.
just my 2 cents

I think all options play but I am supporting a lift back up.

You are right on the larger timeframe trend, but we may be getting close to change...

It has broken the daily high 13th Jan @ 2878
If it now manages to clear the daily high from 3rd @ 3076 without taking out the low from 13th Jan @ 2623 then we could have a reversal on our hands.
which would be confirmed with it then making a higher low of course.
  • #586,395
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:05am Jan 20, 2012 6:05am
Hello everyone. This is my first day. I will watch, learn, monitor successes and failures, and then I will to do my best to make much money. Good luck to you all.
  • #586,396
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:05am Jan 20, 2012 6:05am
i'm starting to think that i'm really ass! i'e been trading over a year now - live!
plus i'm trading full time... that sucks even more

these are my results:

Nov = -100 pips
Dec = +50 pips
Jan = +24 pips so far.

please give me some good advice guys...... my target's 75 pips a week/300 pips a month.

i've tried it for so long yet i've NEVER achieve my goal.

my greatest problem is revenge trading. any experienced traders here please please share with me how i should overcome all these.... thanks.

just now, i shorted euro at 2976, tp 50 but i closed it for 10 pips.... i hate myself for doing that, i find it extremely hard to stick to my initial tp goal.

i really really really need to do sth about this.
  • #586,397
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:09am Jan 20, 2012 6:09am
Quoting happytrader
i'm starting to think that i'm really ass! i'e been trading over a year now - live!
plus i'm trading full time... that sucks even more

these are my results:

Nov = -100 pips
Dec = +50 pips
Jan = +24 pips so far.

please give me some good advice guys...... my target's 75 pips a week/300 pips a month.

i've tried it for so long yet i've NEVER achieve my goal.

my greatest problem is revenge trading. any experienced traders here please please share with me how i should overcome all these.... thanks.

just now, i shorted euro at 2976, tp 50...
Do you have a trade plan (other then 75 pips a week) and what indicators do you use?
  • #586,398
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:10am Jan 20, 2012 6:10am
Quoting MaxDoom
I think all options play but I am supporting a lift back up.

You are right on the larger timeframe trend, but we may be getting close to change...

It has broken the daily high 13th Jan @ 2878
If it now manages to clear the daily high from 3rd @ 3076 without taking out the low from 13th Jan @ 2623 then we could have a reversal on our hands.
which would be confirmed with it then making a higher low of course.
I agree with your analysis...right now, the 4H is finishing up a bottom...NY will take us up.
  • #586,399
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:10am Jan 20, 2012 6:10am
Quoting happytrader
i'm starting to think that i'm really ass! i'e been trading over a year now - live!
plus i'm trading full time... that sucks even more

these are my results:

Nov = -100 pips
Dec = +50 pips
Jan = +24 pips so far.

please give me some good advice guys...... my target's 75 pips a week/300 pips a month.

i've tried it for so long yet i've NEVER achieve my goal.

my greatest problem is revenge trading. any experienced traders here please please share with me how i should overcome all these.... thanks.

just now, i shorted euro at 2976, tp 50 but i...
try closing the trading windows and view some other interest website or read the forums, news and so on.take a occasional peep.dont monitor too much...you will definitely wanna press the "close" or buy/sell button.
  • #586,400
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:10am Jan 20, 2012 6:10am
Quoting happytrader
i'm starting to think that i'm really ass! i'e been trading over a year now - live!
plus i'm trading full time... that sucks even more

these are my results:

Nov = -100 pips
Dec = +50 pips
Jan = +24 pips so far.

please give me some good advice guys...... my target's 75 pips a week/300 pips a month.

i've tried it for so long yet i've NEVER achieve my goal.

my greatest problem is revenge trading. any experienced traders here please please share with me how i should overcome all these.... thanks.

just now, i shorted euro at 2976, tp 50...
Are you trading big lots?
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