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  • #583,981
  • Jan 13, 2012 11:03pm Jan 13, 2012 11:03pm
Quoting KillerWhale
Watch EUR/CHF, I think speculators are trying to run it down to 1.20 to find out if the new finance guy in Swiss is going to intervene.
Who are these "speculators" and how exactly can they push down the value of a currency other then asking for bids way below current exchange rate? And in eur/chf we're talking about billions.
And why? To bid cheaper and go long again?
Apart from it sounding unrealistic, I don't see the point in the whole exercise really, if anybody is powerful enough to move the market like that, will probably stay away from this pair IMHO.
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  • #583,982
  • Jan 13, 2012 11:09pm Jan 13, 2012 11:09pm
Quoting stulic
Who are these "speculators" and how exactly can they push down the value of a currency other then asking for bids way below current exchange rate? And in eur/chf we're talking about billions.
And why? To bid cheaper and go long again?
Apart from it sounding unrealistic, I don't see the point in the whole exercise really, if anybody is powerful enough to move the market like that, will probably stay away from this pair IMHO.

chf holder.......carry trader usually.....the man that hold the chf when carry trade unwind happen........from around 2007....then......maybe is tru we will find 1.2 soon...

but surely n definitely snb will act at that level since they swear to intervene in unlimited quantity!!
Bismillah
  • #583,983
  • Jan 14, 2012 12:16am Jan 14, 2012 12:16am
Quoting krunfx
chf holder.......carry trader usually.....the man that hold the chf when carry trade unwind happen........from around 2007....then......maybe is tru we will find 1.2 soon...

but surely n definitely snb will act at that level since they swear to intervene in unlimited quantity!!
That's the point, we don't know what the new guy will do and when. Last time it was a very easy 1000 pips.
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  • #583,984
  • Jan 14, 2012 12:25am Jan 14, 2012 12:25am
Quoting KillerWhale
That's the point, we don't know what the new guy will do and when. Last time it was a very easy 1000 pips.
thats why they did not want to give a budget for new ceiling 1.3 because they will probably have high potential of loss if the budget did not enough to defend that ceiling
Bismillah
  • #583,985
  • Jan 14, 2012 1:01am Jan 14, 2012 1:01am
Quoting shegzycool4u
only the scalpers makes the money....
I wouldn't say that.
  • #583,986
  • Jan 14, 2012 1:52am Jan 14, 2012 1:52am
Quoting pkimnyc
I wouldn't say that.
True but can say more safely that the loss only come from the scalping !
fontu
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  • #583,987
  • Jan 14, 2012 2:12am Jan 14, 2012 2:12am
Quoting stulic
Who are these "speculators" and how exactly can they push down the value of a currency other then asking for bids way below current exchange rate? And in eur/chf we're talking about billions.
And why? To bid cheaper and go long again?
Apart from it sounding unrealistic, I don't see the point in the whole exercise really, if anybody is powerful enough to move the market like that, will probably stay away from this pair IMHO.
cmon u got 10vs and u dont get it? why do u think anythig moves today? hint picking tops n bottoms? hint retailers? now u get it?
  • #583,988
  • Jan 14, 2012 2:14am Jan 14, 2012 2:14am
Quoting fontu
True but can say more safely that the loss only come from the scalping !
fontu
fontu i love u but usually when i see ur name in the last post it is more instructive lol
  • #583,989
  • Jan 14, 2012 3:03am Jan 14, 2012 3:03am
Quoting sidhujag
cmon u got 10vs and u dont get it? why do u think anythig moves today? hint picking tops n bottoms? hint retailers? now u get it?
Thanks, that's why I didn't answer it, considering 10V's it is really a stupid question.

Just proves that the V's don't indicate any knowledge of trading.
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  • #583,990
  • Jan 14, 2012 3:17am Jan 14, 2012 3:17am
Quoting sidhujag
fontu i love u but usually when i see ur name in the last post it is more instructive lol
Thanks , love to you too .Wish happy 2012 with all great greens.

Just talking about loss -profit relating scalping . 10 times in 10 days as very possible in scalping while loss all in one short & within few minutes in one careless /overconfidence thursday or friday move , happened many many times in early days all learning live though , usually in a cycle of 10-15 days when no strategy works in vicious loosing cycle & money management applied too perhaps due scalping risks using more % at any single time & as becoming habbit forming next time also .

so profit there plus risks also there like gambling formula , give & take , give & take more , give all & take none ,. a sure loose all formula .

while no scalping mode , even with bad entry , may not able 200 pips profit but likely get at least 20 in the favour & sure profit in hand & likely . if no lust & no forget taking profit once in profit , sure never loose any .
fontu
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  • #583,991
  • Jan 14, 2012 4:04am Jan 14, 2012 4:04am
discussion.....

IF SNB AND BOJ REACT IN THE MARKET........

THE probably SAFE HAVEN ASSET NOW ONLY GOLD??? WOW........interesting

is gold to skyrocket if SNB n BOJ react in the market????

since.......

SNB will defend 1.2 floor soon....
BOJ will help their exporter & JUn Azumi concern about weaker euro....
Bismillah
  • #583,992
  • Jan 14, 2012 4:59am Jan 14, 2012 4:59am
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  • #583,993
  • Jan 14, 2012 5:58am Jan 14, 2012 5:58am
Interesting discussion but technically gold looks only down for me. I shiorted it yesterday for a short term trade and took some pips but I wouldn't like to hold a short position open too long. What interests me greatly is the correlation between gold and AUD which is looking more and more like a sell proposition by the day. I thought we were going to see 1.05 before a major drop but I'm not so sure now.

USD strength is going to be the picture for a while I feel.
  • #583,994
  • Jan 14, 2012 6:56am Jan 14, 2012 6:56am
Quoting Mehrdadovic
AUDUSD
- Hello Mehrdadovic, I saw your AUD/USD chart and I can't draw this square with the triangles on it, then how could u draw it.

- Thanks in advance.
  • #583,995
  • Edited 7:50am Jan 14, 2012 7:35am | Edited 7:50am
Quoting krunfx
discussion.....

IF SNB AND BOJ REACT IN THE MARKET........

THE probably SAFE HAVEN ASSET NOW ONLY GOLD??? WOW........interesting

is gold to skyrocket if SNB n BOJ react in the market????

since.......

SNB will defend 1.2 floor soon....
BOJ will help their exporter & JUn Azumi concern about weaker euro....
Interesting , they should not have any choice to me . to me they both opportunist economy , go with the big flow not to pour all the money to distribute throughout the world to catch up big ecomonic like US or ez & hold. so when the bigs come to decision they may act to have their own benefit only , to ensure get back all the monies invested in intervention . otherwise simply spike effects without any result , eat the own shit !
lets see when , SNB may not keep the 1.2 promise this time & if ,BOJ may start working .

Gold not thinking the safe heaven but for restless , worried /troubled money run for safety for timebeing . lets see if the restless continues or erased or adjusted or crushed to restart in this 2012 , like the last option , all crushed to restart at gold lowest level or last leg down to continue new top & up forever !! My own theory , no economist . sorry if all wrong .

fontu
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  • #583,996
  • Jan 14, 2012 7:59am Jan 14, 2012 7:59am
Quoting krunfx
discussion.....

IF SNB AND BOJ REACT IN THE MARKET........

THE probably SAFE HAVEN ASSET NOW ONLY GOLD??? WOW........interesting

is gold to skyrocket if SNB n BOJ react in the market????

since.......

SNB will defend 1.2 floor soon....
BOJ will help their exporter & JUn Azumi concern about weaker euro....
japan hands are tighten. USA had express un happiness of japan currency intervention in December. so japan have to come with policy change instate doing multi interventions , japan might waiting for some light from Europe. at this stage what ever step japan take does not last long. this just my view

May be japan should spread rumor of downgrade every week and do soft invention
Mohan
  • #583,997
  • Jan 14, 2012 8:06am Jan 14, 2012 8:06am
The 1.30 level was the epicenter of massive support on the way down, and for it to act as resistance would be expected. (In fact, it is one of the very basic concepts of technical analysis.) Because of this, I am presently looking to sell this pair on signs of weakness. The idea of buying the Euro hasn’t even been a thought, and as long as selling works over the longer-term, that is all I will do. I am looking for shooting stars on the 4 hour and daily charts in order to sell weakness. Larger red candles can also work in the right area. The resistance area should start about 1.29, and run all the way up to the 1.31 handle.
  • #583,998
  • Jan 14, 2012 8:36am Jan 14, 2012 8:36am
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  • #583,999
  • Jan 14, 2012 9:10am Jan 14, 2012 9:10am
is the euro drop to 1.25 in coming week ? personally i think it will drop to 1.25 and then we have a correction
  • #584,000
  • Jan 14, 2012 10:27am Jan 14, 2012 10:27am
Quoting mohan76
japan hands are tighten. USA had express un happiness of japan currency intervention in December. so japan have to come with policy change instate doing multi interventions , japan might waiting for some light from Europe. at this stage what ever step japan take does not last long. this just my view

May be japan should spread rumor of downgrade every week and do soft invention
should be since....yen is strengthen from yen carry unwind ++ Lehman brothers collapse till now ..and since euro crisis to be a catalyst for the yen borowwer to hold it....and now there are very hard to change the direction of the carry trader since euro crisis still widen.....

im agree with u..if euro have a hope n solution then japan will make a "BIG FIRE".... ...
Bismillah
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