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  • #29,481
  • Jan 7, 2012 7:32am Jan 7, 2012 7:32am
Quoting krunfx
We will catch the trend after 1-2days daily cs form!huhu

Indeed, the market will still be there. Plenty of time to jump on after it shows the way.
  • #29,482
  • Jan 7, 2012 7:48am Jan 7, 2012 7:48am
Quoting Mpt
Indeed, the market will still be there. Plenty of time to jump on after it shows the way.
Maybe azumi san had realize it..no wonder before japan next monday holiday azumi "watching market closely"

Haha
Bismillah
  • #29,483
  • Jan 7, 2012 8:55am Jan 7, 2012 8:55am
very old & messy & so taking the fresh charts with all parameters trying keep intact from old .
very probable trend change providing the diamond published before , representing very small part othe whole NOT active , still to decide the whole , do or abort the prevous trend now or continue down for long time again .

if fail this time the down has actually no limit . wavewise viable trend change also ok IF now .BOJ intervention to initiate non-stoppable perhaps now .

fontu
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  • #29,484
  • Jan 7, 2012 9:12am Jan 7, 2012 9:12am
Quoting fontu
very old & messy & so taking the fresh charts with all parameters trying keep intact from old .
very probable trend change providing the diamond published before , representing very small part othe whole NOT active , still to decide the whole , do or abort the prevous trend now or continue down for long time again .

if fail this time the down has actually no limit . wavewise viable trend change also ok IF now .BOJ intervention to initiate non-stoppable perhaps now .

fontu
Thats why if boj realize it this is appropriate point to change the direction of dollar yen since daily signal double bottom..boj must do sumthing to now otherwise the dollar yen will soon make a new fresh post war low!
Bismillah
  • #29,485
  • Jan 7, 2012 9:28am Jan 7, 2012 9:28am
Quoting krunfx
Thats why if boj realize it this is appropriate point to change the direction of dollar yen since daily signal double bottom..boj must do sumthing to now otherwise the dollar yen will soon make a new fresh post war low!
Let they decide but failure take action lots many trend change also probable this month or better say few months as the diamond may take decision , against usd pairs .
Good luck to Boj & US.do or die .
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #29,486
  • Jan 7, 2012 9:40am Jan 7, 2012 9:40am
Quoting fontu
Let they decide but failure take action lots many trend change also probable this month or better say few months as the diamond may take decision , against usd pairs .
Good luck to Boj & US.do or die .
fontu
Azumi also had said concern about weakening euro..is he try to intervent againt eur soon rather than usd?haha
Bismillah
  • #29,487
  • Jan 7, 2012 9:56am Jan 7, 2012 9:56am
Quoting krunfx
Azumi also had said concern about weakening euro..is he try to intervent againt eur soon rather than usd?haha
They are love brothers & in the same boat & if do against all others , rest of the world.still they have enough time to see the developments & usdx may fuse by this time & certainly then will not go against all with all muscles flexed & rigor mortis later . so killing time may the key now, they the range 79.53-75.55 to stay on .
lets see .pa smaller ranges within.

fontu
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  • #29,488
  • Jan 7, 2012 10:03am Jan 7, 2012 10:03am
Quoting fontu
They are love brothers & in the same boat & if do against all others , rest of the world.still they have enough time to see the developments & usdx may fuse by this time & certainly then will not go against all with all muscles flexed & rigor mortis later . so killing time may the key now, they the range 79.53-75.55 to stay on .
lets see .

fontu
And last think shirakawa visit switzerland+england n azumi to US to see geithner with noda hopefully give us clear signal on yentervention soon
Bismillah
  • #29,489
  • Jan 7, 2012 10:36am Jan 7, 2012 10:36am
Quoting krunfx
And last think shirakawa visit switzerland+england n azumi to US to see geithner with noda hopefully give us clear signal on yentervention soon
Ok , then last from me also here today , nice conversation & thanks for all imformation .
So they are in contact with both ! legs in 2 boats is certain fuck up /deep laceration through the pudendum /disaster perhaps , not only they but for all currencies may come , gold bounce to 2000, 2100 or what not ,wrote before years back ,the sky for now 3000, 4000,5000 to see shinning & currencies in the hell!
last chance controll !!
very old gold chart , sorry no time shave this time .
fontu
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  • #29,490
  • Edited 4:41pm Jan 7, 2012 1:52pm | Edited 4:41pm
Quoting fontu
very old & messy & so taking the fresh charts with all parameters trying keep intact from old .
very probable trend change providing the diamond published before , representing very small part othe whole NOT active , still to decide the whole , do or abort the prevous trend now or continue down for long time again .

if fail this time the down has actually no limit . wavewise viable trend change also ok IF now .BOJ intervention to initiate non-stoppable perhaps now .

fontu
Whilst we normally develop a viewpoint based on the evidence in front of us, the lack of historical data provided in MT4 can often result in an altered (and possibly incorrect) monthly view. I refer you to my post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...20#post5259120 There you will see another ten years of data for USDJPY, showing things a little more clearly.

Another case in point is the AUDUSD. Many people see the AUD current price levels at around 100c in the context of data going back only 20 years and assume it to be making all time highs, being in a wave 3 or 5. Little do they know that it was priced much higher some 20 years earlier and that their wave count is, as a result of having insufficient data, wrong.
  • #29,491
  • Jan 7, 2012 5:45pm Jan 7, 2012 5:45pm
1,2,3 AS A REFERENCE POINT FOR NOW.....(yen movement possibility)
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Bismillah
  • #29,492
  • Jan 7, 2012 10:44pm Jan 7, 2012 10:44pm
Quoting Mpt
Whilst we normally develop a viewpoint based on the evidence in front of us, the lack of historical data provided in MT4 can often result in an altered (and possibly incorrect) monthly view. I refer you to my post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...20#post5259120 There you will see another ten years of data for USDJPY, showing things a little more clearly.

Another case in point is the AUDUSD. Many people see the AUD current price levels at around 100c in the context of data going back only 20 years and assume it to be...
Good to see it, the chart , ok with current views as per pa .lets see .au , I want it back great before any up & do you have good chart there ?
fontu
fontu
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  • #29,493
  • Jan 7, 2012 11:37pm Jan 7, 2012 11:37pm
Quoting fontu
Good to see it, the chart , ok with current views as per pa .lets see .au , I want it back great before any up & do you have good chart there ?
fontu
fontu
A good historical chart of AUDUSD is hard to find, but here's one from 1971 to the present. (Not that this has anything to do with this thread).

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  • #29,494
  • Jan 8, 2012 8:08am Jan 8, 2012 8:08am
Ouch .... looks like Boj doesn't know what to do. Looks like a good recipe for an accelleration of trend. Ouch for those (like me) waiting to short an intervention bounce :-(





No euro intervention yet, Azumi hints

Kyodo
Finance Minister Jun Azumi said Friday the government is monitoring the euro's decline over the "long term," indicating he sees no immediate need to intervene in the currency markets to stem the yen's appreciation.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/p...0120107a2a.jpg Jun Azumi
"We are now closely watching developments in the foreign exchange market," Azumi said. "I believe we must watch (the euro's fall) over the long term."
He also said Japan wants European leaders to step up efforts to contain the eurozone's sovereign debt crisis. The weakening euro is reflecting strong concerns among market participants about the fiscal problems in the region, Azumi said, stressing the need for "addressing (such concerns) as soon as possible."
The comment came as market participants were waiting for hints on market intervention.
But Azumi refused to comment on whether he views the euro's slide as excessively volatile, which Tokyo normally regards as a development that must be addressed by intervention.
The euro currency plunged to a fresh 11-year low of ¥98.46 in New York on Thursday. Azumi expressed concern that the stronger yen is affecting Japanese exporters by paring their earnings.
On Europe, he urged "special efforts" by eurozone governments to prevent the debt crisis from dragging down global economic growth.
"If they will create a firewall to deal with the problems, we will do what we can, and this will help create a basis for growth . . . by generating a sense of reassurance around the world," Azumi said, referring to Japan's readiness to offer support on condition the eurozone ensures a bailout mechanism with adequate capital contributed by member countries.
Senior Finance Ministry officials have indicated the possibility of Japan making loans to the International Monetary Fund, which could in turn offer financial assistance to troubled eurozone countries, such as Italy and Spain, on the condition they adopt austerity measures.
Azumi also said he will discuss the issue with U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who will visit Japan next week, with economic sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program also on the agenda.
  • #29,495
  • Jan 8, 2012 8:20am Jan 8, 2012 8:20am
Quoting Mpt
A good historical chart of AUDUSD is hard to find, but here's one from 1971 to the present. (Not that this has anything to do with this thread).

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Thanks a lot , I will work on this chart soon .
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #29,496
  • Edited 8:50am Jan 8, 2012 8:38am | Edited 8:50am
Quoting SIgurs
Ouch .... looks like Boj doesn't know what to do. Looks like a good recipe for an accelleration of trend. Ouch for those (like me) waiting to short an intervention bounce :-(





No euro intervention yet, Azumi hints

Kyodo
Finance Minister Jun Azumi said Friday the government is monitoring the euro's decline over the "long term," indicating he sees no immediate need to intervene in the currency markets to stem the yen's appreciation.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/p...0120107a2a.jpg...
Nice post & so he is not ignorant about & not both sided also . should adequately assure the market .
The ladies then expecting flat for for long time & trend changes probable in may pairs without much firewall from them & should be within the tolerance levels .
here uj last may be reaction low or so .
Will watch long 76.88 towards 78.21 works or not with market open tonight or next day . with gold down to 1600 breaks .
lets see
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #29,497
  • Jan 8, 2012 4:44pm Jan 8, 2012 4:44pm
Usd/Jpy breaking last Fridays low in pre market as well as the Eur pair. As the EU is unable to tackle its debt crisis Yen is heading higher.

However, with or without EU action a bounce could be a powerfull one ... personally not interested in playing Yen to the short side .... still waiting for an opportunity to go long the Yen aggressively, as this is and will be the safest way to play the Yen for quite some time to come.

Still hoping that mr Azumi steps in as it would probably mean lots of extra Kudo's for Yen believers like eg myself ;-)
  • #29,498
  • Jan 8, 2012 4:46pm Jan 8, 2012 4:46pm
Quoting fontu
Will watch long 76.88 towards 78.21
Why take such risks, why go countertrend, why not go with the flow ? There is way more to gain NOT going countertrend.

Just my 2 cents !
  • #29,499
  • Jan 8, 2012 4:49pm Jan 8, 2012 4:49pm
Quoting SIgurs
Usd/Jpy breaking last Fridays low in pre market as well as the Eur pair. As the EU is unable to tackle its debt crisis Yen is heading higher.

However, with or without EU action a bounce could be a powerfull one ... personally not interested in playing Yen to the short side .... still waiting for an opportunity to go long the Yen aggressively, as this is and will be the safest way to play the Yen for quite some time to come.

Still hoping that mr Azumi steps in as it would probably mean lots of extra Kudo's for Yen believers like eg myself ;-)...

if azumi did not react it can make uj vulnerable to break postwar low then azumi probably hard to weaken yen again at that point!
Bismillah
  • #29,500
  • Jan 8, 2012 4:50pm Jan 8, 2012 4:50pm
And what did I say .... lol

Azuni may have opened Pandora's box by making such remarks. His remarks clearly show that he's completely in the dark. Markets have a good nose for spotting such a helpless and desperate attitude ;-)


Quoting SIgurs
Ouch .... looks like Boj doesn't know what to do. Looks like a good recipe for an accelleration of trend. Ouch for those (like me) waiting to short an intervention bounce :-(




No euro intervention yet, Azumi hints

Kyodo
Finance Minister Jun Azumi said Friday the government is monitoring the euro's decline over the "long term," indicating he sees no immediate need to intervene in the currency markets to stem the yen's appreciation.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/p...0120107a2a.jpg...
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